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Old 01-05-2017, 02:18 AM   #16
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So camera phones not allowed during confinement period meaning after that we can bring right? And I read this whole thing like damn stress lol anyways what's the goggle for
Hi, I understand the stress involved with enlisting. Including the fact that you are entering into the SPF, something not many people get to do.

With response to your question, camera phones are not allowed during your stay at HTA at anytime, wether it being confinement or not.

The goggles are for swimming, as you will be doing basic life saving simulating drowning at the swimming pool. If you are able to swim without goggles, then you will not need them, but I always recommend bringing them for someone else who needs them.

In any case, you probably will not be doing any swimming during your confinement. So the goggles are not a necessity right away.

Hope I clarified any doubts you had.
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Old 01-05-2017, 02:20 AM   #17
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Hi anyone knows is the new SPF rank structure affecting the PNSF's promotions?

Are those pnsf with A level/dip still be promoted to Cpl after 3 mths or pop & to Sgt after 12 mths from the enlistment date?

Thanks for asking. I am not sure about the new structure as I was still under the old system. But from my understanding, different vocations promote NSFs differently.
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Old 01-05-2017, 02:45 AM   #18
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Hi, I understand the stress involved with enlisting. Including the fact that you are entering into the SPF, something not many people get to do.

With response to your question, camera phones are not allowed during your stay at HTA at anytime, wether it being confinement or not.

The goggles are for swimming, as you will be doing basic life saving simulating drowning at the swimming pool. If you are able to swim without goggles, then you will not need them, but I always recommend bringing them for someone else who needs them.

In any case, you probably will not be doing any swimming during your confinement. So the goggles are not a necessity right away.

Hope I clarified any doubts you had.
My friend said after POP then you'll be able to bring in a camera phone? Hm but is being in SPF like how to say is it that bad cos many people say I'm lucky to get police lol and I can't swim
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Old 01-05-2017, 11:45 PM   #19
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My friend said after POP then you'll be able to bring in a camera phone? Hm but is being in SPF like how to say is it that bad cos many people say I'm lucky to get police lol and I can't swim
Hi Polynomicon,

I must have sent the wrong message, as I did not stay in HTA after my POP. If that is the case, then fine, but be sure to check with your individual squad CMs and FIs before doing anything rash.

With regards to your second question, serving your NS in the Police Force, you'll definitely have a different experience compared to the rest of your army friends, but keep in mind, you are part of a special group of people who get to go through the life of a Police Officer, and some of my friends have even signed on. So yes, you are lucky to get into police.

And you do not have to worry about not being able to swim. There are instructors for a reason, and by the end of the swimming part of your training, I can safely say that you will at least be able to keep afloat in the water. And if you enjoy swimming and feel like you want to continue the swimming, join the Police Coast Guard, where you will pick up slightly more advanced life saving techniques.
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Old 02-05-2017, 05:21 AM   #20
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Hi Polynomicon,

I must have sent the wrong message, as I did not stay in HTA after my POP. If that is the case, then fine, but be sure to check with your individual squad CMs and FIs before doing anything rash.

With regards to your second question, serving your NS in the Police Force, you'll definitely have a different experience compared to the rest of your army friends, but keep in mind, you are part of a special group of people who get to go through the life of a Police Officer, and some of my friends have even signed on. So yes, you are lucky to get into police.

And you do not have to worry about not being able to swim. There are instructors for a reason, and by the end of the swimming part of your training, I can safely say that you will at least be able to keep afloat in the water. And if you enjoy swimming and feel like you want to continue the swimming, join the Police Coast Guard, where you will pick up slightly more advanced life saving techniques.
I'm gonna sound so annoying w all the question bt i got this anxiety issue then i need to clear my doubts then i'll be okay ps sorry
Is it okay if I bring a duffle bag there lol the list you listed out shows a lot of items that is needed to be brought which was not in the list HTA sent especially the hangers lol and how's the training like tho my friend said there's lesser physical training as compared to army due to the classroom lesson and are the people there strict lol my friend said enlisting in police is fun but ???? Enlisting is fun ???? ANDAND how many civilians clothes should we bring and spectacles must be black ? Cos mine is golden ... and how many underwear lol
Sorry again for all the questions and is piercings allowed like hidden one cos i closed my tongue piercing for ns omg
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Old 02-05-2017, 01:23 PM   #21
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Matte black specs and 1 pair of undies is enough if u lazy change 😂
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Old 02-05-2017, 07:56 PM   #22
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At least two if you are really low on undies and you have not done your laundry. Also, good point, spectacles/glasses need to be black, dark blue or navy, transitions lenses are allowed but I would not recommend them.

Matte black specs and 1 pair of undies is enough if u lazy change 😂
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Old 03-05-2017, 01:56 PM   #23
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I am enlisting in 16may. Very good information.
Thanks alot!
Lol that's my ord date next year.

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Old 03-05-2017, 06:02 PM   #24
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MANGKOK GUIDE TO SPF Enlistment 2017

Before enlisting into SPF, I had lots of questions and I thought I'd write this for all the people who are going to enlist in SPF for NS, now and in the future.

Things to bring/wear on enlistment:

- Wear a decent shirt & jeans for oath taking
- enough underwear for 10 days
- Singlets (3 white to wear under your no. 3 as well as book out attire)*
- Qualification certificates
- Pen & paper (writing materials, recommend bringing a small notepad)
- SHAVER, DEODERANT* & other toiletries
- A basket for your toiletries (very important)
- A COMBINATION lock*
- Kiwi & lint-free cloth*
- 8 hangers at least (if you like being neat, if not 6 will do)
- Plastic bags for storing your used clothes (there will be a lot)
- A torch light*
- Home clothes to sleep in, one or two sets (not a must, but personally I found it more comfortable)
- Febreeze (Any scent will do, I personally found the double strength one smelling the best)

* indicates this is not mentioned in the enlistment letter.

_You will be issued all your items on the first day of enlistment. There really isn't a need to bring a lot of clothes to change_

General Information

Do not try to bring in cigarettes, lighters, power banks or chargers. You will be confined if caught. (HTA is a non smoking camp, and no, there are no yellow boxes) This is not just a threat, it is true. When caught, the whole intake will suffer, not just your squad or yourself.

Confinement is for 10 days irregardless of whether you are in a less fit or fit squad. There is no such thing as waiting for the fit squad before confinement.

There are partitions in the shower room. You will not be seeing any wild birds.

Every bunk holds 10 men. Do not bring an over-sized bag on enlistment day because you do not want to try stuffing two large bags into your cupboard. The FIs will expect you to do that.

The FIs in HTA are mostly not unreasonable people. If you keng they will know. At the same time, if you are genuinely ill/injured, they will most certainly understand. My personal suggestion is you do not try to keng, as being on light duty requires you to be in book out attire all the time and is hot and uncomfortable.

Shave everyday or you will definitely die a horrible death.

You will not be allowed to use the washing machines in the coy until after confinement. I recommend bringing washing powder, stain remover and a scrub to hand wash your clothes. I never used the washing machine during my stay at HTA, because hand washing was a lot faster and takes less of a hassle.

DO NOT WALK OUT OF YOUR COY WITHOUT PERMISSION. If a roll call is done and you are absent, you can be charged for AWOL. This is NOT a light charge.

You will be punished as a squad. Do not think you can get away with being selfish. You will be punished even if you have done nothing wrong. It is your responsibility to make sure your squad mates do nothing against the rules.

There is a certain way to iron your uniform. Make sure there are ZERO creases on your shirt or trousers. The lines must be VERY visible. For your trousers make sure the line ends all the way up to the waist of your pants , on both the front and rear. Generally during confinement you will not be wearing your no.3, and your FI will not expect your uniform to be in top condition just yet, however, if you are really unclear on how to iron your uniform, ask and it shall be given unto you. Seriously though, your FI will teach you how to iron your uniform if you just ask.

Choose your bed carefully. Generally all beds are fine, but the beds at the far ends are a little hotter and the middle beds are cold AF. For some squads you will not be able to choose your own bed. So I recommend bringing a pair of long pants to sleep in if you get cold easily. The blankets at HTA are good, but they are small and don't really keep you very warm.

Choose your squad IC very, very carefully. If you get an incapable squad IC, be prepared to hear the following very often:

"WHY YOUR SEDIA SOUND LIKE BIRD ****!?"
"WHOLE LOT OF YOU TO YOUR RIGHT ON YOUR PALMS DOWN!!"
"TOO SLOW! ON YOUR FEET UP! TO THE LEFT ON YOUR PALMS DOWN!"
"WHEN I SAY DOWN YOU GO DOWN WHEN I SAY UP YOU COME UP UNDERSTAND MANGKOK???"

For the unintiated, "to the left/right on your palms down" means push up position 45 degrees in the specified direction.

There will be three main IC positions to fill, the Squad IC, Squad 2IC and the Communications IC. The comms IC will be the one to liason with your CM & FI, and let them know where you are. They get to have a charger, but do not make this the main reason to become an IC. If you were from an uniformed group in your secondary school, please volunteer to become the IC, it will make your stay at HTA a lot smoother, trust me, been there, done that.

I suggest you cut your hair a day or two before enlistment. Make sure you cut it extremely short, what I did was I cut it a day before enlistment and asked for no 1 army style. You may or may not do as I do, it's your choice. If you let the barber cut your hair, you will have to pay $2, your hair will stick to your skin and you will feel EXTREMELY uncomfortable before you get to take a bath/wash your hair in the evening.

CAMERA PHONES ARE NOT ALLOWED IN HTA. At least for trainees, just buy a cheap $50 Nokia phone and you should be fine. In my opinion, buying a non camera smartphone is a complete waste of money as the battery will not last long and you are not allowed a PowerBank.

Bring an alarm clock, you will need it. For those without one, go to a clock shop and ask for the ns alarm clock, it's super cheap and really loud and useful.

A watch will be useful, but after a while you will find it a hassle as during PT sessions you will have to take it off. But for those who want one, you will need to get it in either black, grey or dark blue. Otherwise, you won't be able to wear it.

Mangkok is an SPF thing, so don't bother asking your army or scdf ns friends what it means. Mangkok means bowl in Malay, and does not pertain to your bowl haircut, it's due to the nature that your bowl (aka head) is empty, in short, calling you an empty head, or not having a brain.

Lastly, try to keep an open mind, do not think that one person is dumb because he is from ITE, or someone is cocky because he is from JC, some of my best friends and smartest people I know are from ITE, and currently studying very hard.

Coming from a mangkok myself, I hope this guide helps all the future mangkoks enlisting in SPF. If any of you feel like adding to it, go ahead and do so. I should say this is all the information I wish I knew when I enlisted but didn't. All this will make your 10 day confinement and subsequent first few weeks a much more enjoyable time I believe. If you have any further questions, feel free to PM me, and I will be happy to answer any of the more private questions..... Cheers!

Hi there! Very useful information. Any tips for female regulars? In terms of ippt, pt, camera phones for regular and any other useful info. I'm reporting on 16 may!
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:55 PM   #25
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Hi there! Very useful information. Any tips for female regulars? In terms of ippt, pt, camera phones for regular and any other useful info. I'm reporting on 16 may!
Hi,

Nice to see that there are more people joining the force!

As for regulars, it is definitely a lot more relaxed, in terms of punishments. For regulars, still no difference, no camera phone, no power bank and no charger unless you are the squad ic.

Lastly, all the best and hope you enjoy your time in the force!
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:58 PM   #26
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All the best with your future endeavours! No plans to sign on??


Lol that's my ord date next year.

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Old 04-05-2017, 10:14 PM   #27
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why whenever people kena SPF
always got ppl ask planning to sign on? or why nv sign on? de
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Old 05-05-2017, 12:26 AM   #28
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why whenever people kena SPF
always got ppl ask planning to sign on? or why nv sign on? de
Bcos to sign on with army sucessfully is very much easier where to kena PNSF & sign on is quite a rare opportunity haha..
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Old 05-05-2017, 02:36 AM   #29
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why whenever people kena SPF
always got ppl ask planning to sign on? or why nv sign on? de
If you were to ask me personally, it would be because in the SPF, we work alongside regulars, many times doing similar things as the regulars do, making it more sensible to sign on to where you were posted as an NSF, many of my peers have signed on during their NS, making them a term known as an absorb.
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Old 05-05-2017, 11:25 AM   #30
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Last time I wanted to sign on SPF as IO, but PES status must be A or B. I PES C1 they say cannot.
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