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Old 12-04-2017, 07:29 AM   #16
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so will u recommend to get the singnet mesh better than those of tplink, etc for normal extension of wifi?
I'm not speaking for others but for myself, yes, I'm currently using it. See my post in Anybody using Singtel Mesh?
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:25 AM   #17
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I'm not speaking for others but for myself, yes, I'm currently using it. See my post in Anybody using Singtel Mesh?
I did saw that. And thanks.
Just called Singtel and they send site technicians to come over next week and let me test and see how it goes.

Coz my BTO is those newly type layout with a stretch of corridor.
And then my fiber is at far side corner of living room near window. So don't know then signal can reach the other side of master room anot.
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:41 AM   #18
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Please do test. review and feedback, i am also very curious.

thank you. i wait for your review.

I did saw that. And thanks.
Just called Singtel and they send site technicians to come over next week and let me test and see how it goes.

Coz my BTO is those newly type layout with a stretch of corridor.
And then my fiber is at far side corner of living room near window. So don't know then signal can reach the other side of master room anot.
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Old 12-04-2017, 11:04 AM   #19
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u mean the singtel mesh can use with starhub or m1 in future too?
not in the future, rather, its presently. singtel wifi mesh does not include special requirements on ISP level to work, unlike their router. so if i sign up for wifi mesh and i sell you, and you're on some other ISP, the mesh system will still work.

so will u recommend to get the singnet mesh better than those of tplink, etc for normal extension of wifi?
wifi mesh systems have a smaller backhaul comparing to conventional repeaters/extenders, which likely to decry the bandwidth by half.

I did saw that. And thanks.
Just called Singtel and they send site technicians to come over next week and let me test and see how it goes.

Coz my BTO is those newly type layout with a stretch of corridor.
And then my fiber is at far side corner of living room near window. So don't know then signal can reach the other side of master room anot.
don't forget strategic placement! do think of some ideas to place your mesh so that when the tech comes down, you can have a more proper evaluation of the system..
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Old 12-04-2017, 12:45 PM   #20
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Anybody has experience with Google Wifi? Thinking of getting that.
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Old 12-04-2017, 12:59 PM   #21
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don't forget strategic placement! do think of some ideas to place your mesh so that when the tech comes down, you can have a more proper evaluation of the system..
My layout is similar to endissorrow.. The router with the master mesh is at one end, in the living room, and the slave mesh is moving around the other end of the house, in the rooms. Depending on usage and need, have to move the slave mesh around, sometime rest it higher on a shelf, sometime on top of the desk, sometime just put it on the floor. But once the mesh starts talking to each other, the connection is smooth. And if you want to project the coverage further, further testing of placement locations have to be look at. The good thing about the mesh is that it is small and easy to carry and move around.
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My layout is similar to endissorrow.. The router with the master mesh is at one end, in the living room, and the slave mesh is moving around the other end of the house, in the rooms. Depending on usage and need, have to move the slave mesh around, sometime rest it higher on a shelf, sometime on top of the desk, sometime just put it on the floor. But once the mesh starts talking to each other, the connection is smooth. And if you want to project the coverage further, further testing of placement locations have to be look at. The good thing about the mesh is that it is small and easy to carry and move around.
in mesh systems, we use the terminologies of master and satellite, not master and slave. haha. in computer hardware you can say that for HDD and the IDE cables, but now is SATA liao.

when your satellite mesh node moves, your master node needs to move as well.
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Old 12-04-2017, 02:21 PM   #23
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in mesh systems, we use the terminologies of primary and secondary, not master and slave. haha. in computer hardware you can say that for HDD and the IDE cables, but now is SATA liao.

when your secondary mesh unit moves, your primary needs to move as well.
Haha... for lack of better words...maybe easier to understand..LOL.

Back to the mesh, unless I'm mistaken, the primary mesh is leashed to the router, so it stays where the router is placed.. LOL... so far I only move the secondary mesh unit around as I connects to the web while moving around the house. Last I heard, Singtel is working on the firmware where this leash is not necessary anymore and we can just plug any mesh unit into the LAN in the house. But I have not heard any update about it.
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Old 12-04-2017, 02:35 PM   #24
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My fiber is install at that corner coz of so call no choice. More like ink to design layout of how we wan and does not wan it to interrupt other things. So no point adjust to the center middle of the house right ? Coz
Of coz I know everything must be in middle to gather all better signals mah
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Haha... for lack of better words...maybe easier to understand..LOL.

Back to the mesh, unless I'm mistaken, the primary mesh is leashed to the router, so it stays where the router is placed.. LOL... so far I only move the secondary mesh unit around as I connects to the web while moving around the house. Last I heard, Singtel is working on the firmware where this leash is not necessary anymore and we can just plug any mesh unit into the LAN in the house. But I have not heard any update about it.
well, until the team is ready to release the firmware update, or else none of us will know the ETA of it..

that is a good piece of news every singtel wifi mesh user is waiting for..
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And the data point is near the front door.. i have quite AC1900 dual band router.. but there is no signal in the master room .. Will these Wifi-mesh be able to give full coverage ? I dont want to pay $10 extra every month but this wifi-mesh is not able to extend the coverage..

Any bros have tried it and it works.
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Old 02-06-2017, 04:03 PM   #27
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And the data point is near the front door.. i have quite AC1900 dual band router.. but there is no signal in the master room .. Will these Wifi-mesh be able to give full coverage ? I dont want to pay $10 extra every month but this wifi-mesh is not able to extend the coverage..

Any bros have tried it and it works.
If yours comes with Ethernet points in every room, just connect the ONT to the data point box to first room.

Then from the first room, connect the output to the router, try to put on a high location closer to the door.

Your signal will be better in the MBR. Living room signal may drop but should still be usable.

Kitchen and service yard may even see a boost too!

Try this first before buying the mesh, it can potentially save your $240!

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Old 03-06-2017, 12:00 PM   #28
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If yours comes with Ethernet points in every room, just connect the ONT to the data point box to first room.

Then from the first room, connect the output to the router, try to put on a high location closer to the door.

Your signal will be better in the MBR. Living room signal may drop but should still be usable.

Kitchen and service yard may even see a boost too!

Try this first before buying the mesh, it can potentially save your $240!
Think im a little confused now.

My cousin had 2 routers at home, one set as access point. When the ISP helped him setup, they told him the router set as AP no need to connect to the ethernet port even though he had one in each room.

So in the case of mesh, the first unit of course must connect to the ONT or router but how about subsequent units? Need to connect to ethernet ports?

Based on my limited understanding, repeaters lock on to existing wifi signal then extends it. And since its locking on to existing signal so no need to connect to ethernet port. Does mesh work the same way? Lets say Singtel AirTies lah. Or will it be able to connect to ethernet port therefore doesnt really matter if there is line of sight or whether each unit's coverage radius overlaps each other?

I guess my question is, how does mesh overcome the problem with traditional extender or AP where there is no LOS or the coverage doesnt overlap resulting in blind spots?

The kiasu Sporean in me would assume buying 4 AirTies for eg to cover my 4 roomer will more than suffice but some would say its seriously overkill. Well obviously i dont want to splurge unnecessarily but if a pair of AirTies does not suffice i guess boh pian need to buy more.
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Think im a little confused now.

My cousin had 2 routers at home, one set as access point. When the ISP helped him setup, they told him the router set as AP no need to connect to the ethernet port even though he had one in each room.

So in the case of mesh, the first unit of course must connect to the ONT or router but how about subsequent units? Need to connect to ethernet ports?

Based on my limited understanding, repeaters lock on to existing wifi signal then extends it. And since its locking on to existing signal so no need to connect to ethernet port. Does mesh work the same way? Lets say Singtel AirTies lah. Or will it be able to connect to ethernet port therefore doesnt really matter if there is line of sight or whether each unit's coverage radius overlaps each other?

I guess my question is, how does mesh overcome the problem with traditional extender or AP where there is no LOS or the coverage doesnt overlap resulting in blind spots?

The kiasu Sporean in me would assume buying 4 AirTies for eg to cover my 4 roomer will more than suffice but some would say its seriously overkill. Well obviously i dont want to splurge unnecessarily but if a pair of AirTies does not suffice i guess boh pian need to buy more.
Repeaters don't need ethernet cable, but I think AirTies requires both AP to have Ethernet cables with the main router connecting to both, so it can get the full speed. If not it could be like repeater and speed many half.

It's unlike Velop, where there's a separate band of 5GHz, mainly for the communication between the two/three nodes. Through the dedicated 5GHz band, there's no need for Ethernet as it can be used as a link between the nodes. You can still do the ethernet link to ensure wider coverage as you can put the second / third Velop in weak coverage area instead and overlap with existing main Velop for maximum coverage.

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Repeaters don't need ethernet cable, but I think AirTies requires both AP to have Ethernet cables with the main router connecting to both, so it can get the full speed. If not it could be like repeater and speed many half.

It's unlike Velop, where there's a separate band of 5GHz, mainly for the communication between the two/three nodes. Through the dedicated 5GHz band, there's no need for Ethernet as it can be used as a link between the nodes. You can still do the ethernet link to ensure wider coverage as you can put the second / third Velop in weak coverage area instead and overlap with existing main Velop for maximum coverage.
Was thinking of AirTies actually. I understand not all mesh devices work the same way, apparently some are not "genuine" mesh and uses other technology but the manufacturer tries to pass them off as mesh.

After reading HWZ reviews, seems both Linkysys Velop & Airties have similar pros & cons. But main difference of course is Airties is cheaper lah.

Also I noticed the review said the best is to use the mesh nodes together with a powerful router. Wouldn't that result in 2 different SSIDs? I assume the router has its own SSID and so does the primary mesh node?
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