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Old 08-02-2019, 09:54 PM   #5026
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Guys thinking of buying the slate 15 with 2060 rtx.. Can check if the screen is matte or glossy? Cannot stand my Lenovo e585 matte screen ips and decided to sell and buy a gaming laptop.

From what I read in last few pages that slate 15 not so good? But then the current cny promo with 16gb 2060 rtx is priced around 23xx...a bit hard to find such price..
Laptop screens are generally matt, at least this is what I noticed nowadays. I believe laptops are mobile, and a glossy screen is certainly not that great when bringing it outdoors due to reflection.
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Old 08-02-2019, 10:39 PM   #5027
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Laptop screens are generally matt, at least this is what I noticed nowadays. I believe laptops are mobile, and a glossy screen is certainly not that great when bringing it outdoors due to reflection.
Hmm think I will wait for Lenovo y540 to be release then buy.. 2060gtx sounds good.. Y740 too expensive
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Old 08-02-2019, 11:17 PM   #5028
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Did you force the laptop to use the Dedicated GPU for gaming while unplugged? By default windows will use the iGPU to run games/intensive tasks while unplugged to save power, so that would explain lower fps.

Perhaps you could force the dgpu to be used while unplugged and see the battery life for more accurate results
I am sure it is running on my GTX 1060. The problem is that the max battery power draw is very low compared to when plugged into a 150W brick. The CPU/GPU is power limited and only runs at 2.2Ghz cpu/1000~ MHz core instead of usual 3.9Ghz cpu/1680 MHz core on the plug and that causes the drop in performance.
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:37 PM   #5029
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Can anyone advise the difference between the Apex 15 and Slate 15? Which is better in terms of cooling? I play Dota and BF V
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:23 PM   #5030
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Same, can't decide between Apex or Slate 15 for getting one with RTX2060
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:49 PM   #5031
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I am sure it is running on my GTX 1060. The problem is that the max battery power draw is very low compared to when plugged into a 150W brick. The CPU/GPU is power limited and only runs at 2.2Ghz cpu/1000~ MHz core instead of usual 3.9Ghz cpu/1680 MHz core on the plug and that causes the drop in performance.
Isn't it normal for laptops to throttle when running on battery? I believe even those ultra low power laptops throttle when running on battery for the sake of preserving battery life. While you can try to force it to run at full speed by selecting maximum performance, I suspect the logic is baked into the BIOS, so I am not sure if that will be effective. If the battery have to discharge at 150W, it will also likely overheat.
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Old 10-02-2019, 08:42 AM   #5032
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Hi I have a newly purchased Apex-17 and the keyboard isn't working with backlit shown as well. I'm not able to bring it to the service centre as I'm studying abroad now. How could I possibly fix this? This happened out of nowhere after starting up my laptop the next occurring day. Battery to seems to have an issue as well. Battery percentage is only dropping even while being charged.

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Old 10-02-2019, 02:33 PM   #5033
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Hi I have a newly purchased Apex-17 and the keyboard isn't working with backlit shown as well. I'm not able to bring it to the service centre as I'm studying abroad now. How could I possibly fix this? This happened out of nowhere after starting up my laptop the next occurring day. Battery to seems to have an issue as well. Battery percentage is only dropping even while being charged.
When you mentioned that battery is dropping despite the fact that you are charging it, are you gaming on the laptop? I am asking because I know of laptops where the bundled charger is not able to keep up with the power consumption of the laptop under load, and as a result, the laptop will get power from the wall socket and the battery at the same time.

Aftershock don't seem to state the specs of the power brick, which makes it hard to determine if it is sufficient power for the laptop configuration.
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:28 PM   #5034
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Hi I have a newly purchased Apex-17 and the keyboard isn't working with backlit shown as well. I'm not able to bring it to the service centre as I'm studying abroad now. How could I possibly fix this? This happened out of nowhere after starting up my laptop the next occurring day. Battery to seems to have an issue as well. Battery percentage is only dropping even while being charged.
these dont seem to be software related so I doubt there's anything you could do to "possibly fix this" as you'd need hardware replacements probably.
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Old 11-02-2019, 11:59 AM   #5035
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Hi I have a newly purchased Apex-17 and the keyboard isn't working with backlit shown as well. I'm not able to bring it to the service centre as I'm studying abroad now. How could I possibly fix this? This happened out of nowhere after starting up my laptop the next occurring day. Battery to seems to have an issue as well. Battery percentage is only dropping even while being charged.
Highly suggest you talk to a AS rep via email rather than ask here as you'll most likely require hardware repairs. Get AS to agree to cover your shipping(see below) and ship ASAP. Disappointing that AS techs didnt pick this up when they tested it and still passed the laptop to you

Where're you now studying at? Your best bet is either:

1) VIDEOTAPE the defects and email AS support. Ask for shipping coverage(ie. they pay for your shipping). Ship the laptop back to SG(if AS agree to cover which they most likely will, pick the fastest possible shipping svc and option) and ship it straight to AS HQ. They'll repair it and ship it back to you. Razer follows the above-mentioned policy but idk about AS for overseas repairs. And you'll be without a laptop for a couple weeks or more.

2) Approach other Clevo Resellers in the different regions of the world - Sager for USA, XMG for EU/Germany.

Heres a helpful link for finding Clevo resellers in the Eu:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thre...ion-v1.652403/

Clevo resellers worldwide:
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic...evo-resellers/

Although the Apex 17 itself uses a non-clevo chassis, its very likely Clevo resellers in other parts of the world also take on this chassis and brand their laptops differently, so parts for your Apex-17 will definitely be available. Pricing however, is a question mark. If you're in the EU I'd recommend just grabbing a cheap Ryanair flight or driving down to the nearest Clevo reseller and trying your luck there. Unless AS agrees to cover the full shipping fees ofc.

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Old 13-02-2019, 11:10 AM   #5036
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if comparing current gen GPU with their pascal equivalent, 2060 definitely has the most improvement (about 40% I heard) over its predecessor, supposedly way more than how much improvement the 2080 and 2070 achieved and should be able to achieve 1080p 60 fps even when running at high settings. The older 1060 might only be able to hit that target on medium settings or on games that are very well optimised.
Funny though, this site tested two different laptops with RTX2060 and GTX1060 Notebook ones through 3DMark Fire Strike and reports the RTX2060 to have a mere 5.1% performance advantage over the GTX1060 counterpart, not even close to the assumed 40% gain. Partly due to the (incorrect reporting) of the clock speeds. RTX 2060 have 46% lower clock frequency (960MHz base, 1200MHz boost) than the GTX 1060 (1404MHz base, 1670MHz boost), but bests it in all other fields like CUDA Core Count, GDDR Ram speed and bandwidth and the additional Silicon cores installed alongside the CUDA Cores for AI adaptations and Ray Tracing purposes.
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Old 14-02-2019, 07:13 PM   #5037
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Funny though, this site tested two different laptops with RTX2060 and GTX1060 Notebook ones through 3DMark Fire Strike and reports the RTX2060 to have a mere 5.1% performance advantage over the GTX1060 counterpart, not even close to the assumed 40% gain. Partly due to the (incorrect reporting) of the clock speeds. RTX 2060 have 46% lower clock frequency (960MHz base, 1200MHz boost) than the GTX 1060 (1404MHz base, 1670MHz boost), but bests it in all other fields like CUDA Core Count, GDDR Ram speed and bandwidth and the additional Silicon cores installed alongside the CUDA Cores for AI adaptations and Ray Tracing purposes.

I don't see how they arrive at the -5.1% performance value. Am I blind?



If we use 1060's Fire Strike Graphics score as the base, then the 2060 performs at 14300/12225 = ~1.170 times, implying +17% in performance of the 2060 over the 1060.



If we use 2060's score as the base, then the 1060 performs at 12225/14300 = 0.855 times, implying that the 1060 performs at 85.5% of a 2060, or that the 1060 performs -14.5% compared to the 2060.


Where is -5.1% coming from??
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Old 15-02-2019, 03:28 PM   #5038
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the 5.1% has to be incorrect for sure most tests indicate the 2060 should be at least 1.3x to 1.4x times the performance of the 1060

you can even compare the two on notebookcheck and see the performance delta
https://www.notebookcheck.net/GeForc....247598.0.html
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Old 16-02-2019, 07:47 PM   #5039
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https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA....386281.0.html

can someone explain how come so many games performs better in rtx 2060 (laptop) vs rtx 2070 max Q?? is there a mistake? I've already ordered a rtx 2070 max Q gaming laptop
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Old 16-02-2019, 08:25 PM   #5040
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https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA....386281.0.html

can someone explain how come so many games performs better in rtx 2060 (laptop) vs rtx 2070 max Q?? is there a mistake? I've already ordered a rtx 2070 max Q gaming laptop
acording to notebookcheck side by side comparison of the 2 GPU

2060 clocks
960 - 1200 (Boost) MHz

2070 max Q clocks
885-1080 - 1185-1305 (Boost) MHz

the 2070 max Q has 2 sets of clock speeds as theres a low end 80W version and a higher end 90W version, this could be 1 factor

we also dont know if the max Q is more likely to run at lower clocks due to max Q heat management while 2060 runs with less restraint
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