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Old 29-07-2018, 01:50 PM   #181
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Is it metal or still plastic like E475?
Higher quality plastic but still plastic
Plastic. But look business class level.
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Old 29-07-2018, 02:00 PM   #182
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Plastic. But look business class level.
Okay so should be same as E475 chassis.
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Old 29-07-2018, 02:16 PM   #183
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This might help you tweak performance.
Minor review.
1. I set the processor to 100% and it managed to get a much better score on geekbench, but still not pushing the processor 100%. https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/9192730

2. Cinebench 15 shows that it outperforms i7 8550u by 5% on multicore and lose by 10% on single core. I will say it performed really well. No thermal throttling that I can see.

3. 3dMark skydiver shows a score of 800, which is very close to the dedicated mx150 GPU in most ultrabooks. (MX 150 in Ultrabooks is usually slightly throttled because of heat)

4. SSD performance is really good. The 512 GB samsung has a sequential read of 2.7GB per second and write of 2GB per second. 4k read writes are about 10 - 20% better than the E480 review on notebookcheck. However, the ssd controller temp went up to 98 degree. (SSD brand is a lottery, so don't expect samsung in every laptop. Your mileage will vary)

5. Screen brightness is quite low and I will expect to use 50% brightness in a well lit room, in comparison to the usual 25% for my other laptops. The matt display is great although I can see very faint bleeding at the bottom. Acceptable for this price.

6. I managed to squeeze 7 hours out of this laptop by setting max cpu to 70% so it will not turbo boost in battery. However, the lowest possible clock I can get it to go consistently is at 1.6ghz. My settings are: Wifi on, 25% brightness, 2.5% average cpu utilization, 10% average highest cpu core utilization. If you are consistently visiting javascript heavy (or ad heavy) webpages like hardwarezone, then expect your "average highest cpu core utilization" to spike and as a result, much heavier power usage. I will say on average, a uptime of 4 to 6 hour is very achievable. However, it is still poorer than a intel chip. I will expect intel to have an extra 20 - 30% extra runtime.

7. It can be charged or run from a external USB PD powerbank. A 100 wh powerbank will easily give an extra 150% - 180% more battery life to you on the road.

8. It is a thinkpad keyboard.

9. In conclusion, I think this laptop is a fantastic buy if you want to game occasionally or require 16 GB ram for multi tasking / development work, despite the "subpar" wifi. In everyday usage, wifi is not expected to be a bottleneck, so it is not a factor in my review. I hope this can be of help to those considering this laptop.
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Old 29-07-2018, 02:54 PM   #184
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Okay so should be same as E475 chassis.
I will say it is the same as the E480.

Sharper corners that looks more professional.
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Old 29-07-2018, 02:56 PM   #185
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This might help you tweak performance.
Got it. Very useful info. Thanks.
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Old 29-07-2018, 03:34 PM   #186
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I will say it is the same as the E480.

Sharper corners that looks more professional.
Yea I found close up pictures, there is no joint on top bezel when dissembling it, everything is from the bottom, much nicer.

Do you have the following screenshot?
Below is from my e475

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Old 29-07-2018, 06:56 PM   #187
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Minor review.
1. I set the processor to 100% and it managed to get a much better score on geekbench, but still not pushing the processor 100%. https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/9192730

2. Cinebench 15 shows that it outperforms i7 8550u by 5% on multicore and lose by 10% on single core. I will say it performed really well. No thermal throttling that I can see.

3. 3dMark skydiver shows a score of 800, which is very close to the dedicated mx150 GPU in most ultrabooks. (MX 150 in Ultrabooks is usually slightly throttled because of heat)

4. SSD performance is really good. The 512 GB samsung has a sequential read of 2.7GB per second and write of 2GB per second. 4k read writes are about 10 - 20% better than the E480 review on notebookcheck. However, the ssd controller temp went up to 98 degree. (SSD brand is a lottery, so don't expect samsung in every laptop. Your mileage will vary)

5. Screen brightness is quite low and I will expect to use 50% brightness in a well lit room, in comparison to the usual 25% for my other laptops. The matt display is great although I can see very faint bleeding at the bottom. Acceptable for this price.

6. I managed to squeeze 7 hours out of this laptop by setting max cpu to 70% so it will not turbo boost in battery. However, the lowest possible clock I can get it to go consistently is at 1.6ghz. My settings are: Wifi on, 25% brightness, 2.5% average cpu utilization, 10% average highest cpu core utilization. If you are consistently visiting javascript heavy (or ad heavy) webpages like hardwarezone, then expect your "average highest cpu core utilization" to spike and as a result, much heavier power usage. I will say on average, a uptime of 4 to 6 hour is very achievable. However, it is still poorer than a intel chip. I will expect intel to have an extra 20 - 30% extra runtime.

7. It can be charged or run from a external USB PD powerbank. A 100 wh powerbank will easily give an extra 150% - 180% more battery life to you on the road.

8. It is a thinkpad keyboard.

9. In conclusion, I think this laptop is a fantastic buy if you want to game occasionally or require 16 GB ram for multi tasking / development work, despite the "subpar" wifi. In everyday usage, wifi is not expected to be a bottleneck, so it is not a factor in my review. I hope this can be of help to those considering this laptop.
Thanks. Did it arrive with bloatware? Is it a good idea to do a Windows refresh out of the box?
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Old 29-07-2018, 09:04 PM   #188
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Minor review.
1. I set the processor to 100% and it managed to get a much better score on geekbench, but still not pushing the processor 100%. https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/9192730

2. Cinebench 15 shows that it outperforms i7 8550u by 5% on multicore and lose by 10% on single core. I will say it performed really well. No thermal throttling that I can see.

3. 3dMark skydiver shows a score of 800, which is very close to the dedicated mx150 GPU in most ultrabooks. (MX 150 in Ultrabooks is usually slightly throttled because of heat)

4. SSD performance is really good. The 512 GB samsung has a sequential read of 2.7GB per second and write of 2GB per second. 4k read writes are about 10 - 20% better than the E480 review on notebookcheck. However, the ssd controller temp went up to 98 degree. (SSD brand is a lottery, so don't expect samsung in every laptop. Your mileage will vary)

5. Screen brightness is quite low and I will expect to use 50% brightness in a well lit room, in comparison to the usual 25% for my other laptops. The matt display is great although I can see very faint bleeding at the bottom. Acceptable for this price.

6. I managed to squeeze 7 hours out of this laptop by setting max cpu to 70% so it will not turbo boost in battery. However, the lowest possible clock I can get it to go consistently is at 1.6ghz. My settings are: Wifi on, 25% brightness, 2.5% average cpu utilization, 10% average highest cpu core utilization. If you are consistently visiting javascript heavy (or ad heavy) webpages like hardwarezone, then expect your "average highest cpu core utilization" to spike and as a result, much heavier power usage. I will say on average, a uptime of 4 to 6 hour is very achievable. However, it is still poorer than a intel chip. I will expect intel to have an extra 20 - 30% extra runtime.

7. It can be charged or run from a external USB PD powerbank. A 100 wh powerbank will easily give an extra 150% - 180% more battery life to you on the road.

8. It is a thinkpad keyboard.

9. In conclusion, I think this laptop is a fantastic buy if you want to game occasionally or require 16 GB ram for multi tasking / development work, despite the "subpar" wifi. In everyday usage, wifi is not expected to be a bottleneck, so it is not a factor in my review. I hope this can be of help to those considering this laptop.
Thank you for sharing the findings.
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Old 29-07-2018, 09:15 PM   #189
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Yea I found close up pictures, there is no joint on top bezel when dissembling it, everything is from the bottom, much nicer.

Do you have the following screenshot?
Below is from my e475

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Old 29-07-2018, 09:17 PM   #190
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Thanks. Did it arrive with bloatware? Is it a good idea to do a Windows refresh out of the box?
I didn't bother to. It came with only lenovo management software and Mcafee antivirus. The rest of the bloatware are from microsoft, which you will still get even if you do a fresh copy.
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Old 29-07-2018, 10:21 PM   #191
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Old 04-08-2018, 12:00 AM   #192
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Mine arrived today. Got a Lenovo 256GB SSD instead.
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Old 04-08-2018, 07:47 PM   #193
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Mine arrived today. Got a Lenovo 256GB SSD instead.

For those interested, its a LENSE20256GMSP34MEAT2TA. Not too shabby for an OEM branded drive, and certainly a bargain for the whole package (I paid $767.01 total for R5-2500U/2x4GB/256GB NVME/FHD IPS 14.1" LCD/65W PD quick charge USB-C adaptor/W10H/3 years on-site).

Have to turn off write-cache buffer flushing under Device Manager, otherwise write speeds will tank.

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CrystalDiskMark 6.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2018 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : https://crystalmark.info/
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Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 2651.081 MB/s
Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 1147.536 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 647.816 MB/s [ 158158.2 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 298.976 MB/s [ 72992.2 IOPS]
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 156.308 MB/s [ 38161.1 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 114.148 MB/s [ 27868.2 IOPS]
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 35.138 MB/s [ 8578.6 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 78.264 MB/s [ 19107.4 IOPS]

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For those interested, its a LENSE20256GMSP34MEAT2TA. Not too shabby for an OEM branded drive, and certainly a bargain for the whole package (I paid $767.01 total for R5-2500U/2x4GB/256GB NVME/FHD IPS 14.1" LCD/65W PD quick charge USB-C adaptor/W10H/3 years on-site).

Have to turn off write-cache buffer flushing under Device Manager, otherwise write speeds will tank.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 6.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2018 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : https://crystalmark.info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 2651.081 MB/s
Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 1147.536 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 647.816 MB/s [ 158158.2 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 298.976 MB/s [ 72992.2 IOPS]
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 156.308 MB/s [ 38161.1 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 114.148 MB/s [ 27868.2 IOPS]
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 35.138 MB/s [ 8578.6 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 78.264 MB/s [ 19107.4 IOPS]
You ordered before they increased the price by $100?

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Old 04-08-2018, 08:09 PM   #195
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You ordered before they increased the price by $100?

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Yea, ordered on 20th July. With the $250 discount for online purchase done during the wee hours.
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