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Old 04-07-2018, 08:57 PM   #31
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seems like HP might bring in AMD specs as well.
Yes the HP Envy X360 as well as Probook/Elitebook.
However not below $1k.
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Old 04-07-2018, 09:48 PM   #32
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I have a slight concern on the heat dissipation issue with AMD processor too. I am looking at the 14" one. I wonder why the 256GB SSD which should hold the Win 10 OS is installed as 2nd drive while the 1st drive is left empty. Isn't the system drive is always installed as 1st drive? Anyone here can enlighten me?

I went AddOn at Bugis Junction this afternoon, trying to take a look at the actual notebook. But I was told it is only available online.
Heat problem or not, we will only know if we try it. This is running a 15W processor which I feel should not be a big concern with the thick chassis on this ThinkPad.
I think it is just a perception that if it is AMD, it will run hot. To give you a little comparison, my Lenovo Miix 720 with a i5 7200U could hit over 80 degs under load.
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Old 04-07-2018, 10:18 PM   #33
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Heat problem or not, we will only know if we try it. This is running a 15W processor which I feel should not be a big concern with the thick chassis on this ThinkPad.
I think it is just a perception that if it is AMD, it will run hot. To give you a little comparison, my Lenovo Miix 720 with a i5 7200U could hit over 80 degs under load.
Review on Ideapad 720S which is also fitted with Ryzen 5 2500U indicate inadequate cooling leading to throttling of processor under heavy load. Let's hope Lenovo has learnt the lesson and made necessary improvement on these new models.
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Old 04-07-2018, 10:33 PM   #34
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Review on Ideapad 720S which is also fitted with Ryzen 5 2500U indicate inadequate cooling leading to throttling of processor under heavy load. Let's hope Lenovo has learnt the lesson and made necessary improvement on these new models.
For those who assume AMD is hot.
Do not based on the preception of Ideapad 720s as that one
is Lenovo lazy design.
As they recycle the design from Intel version and think it
will work but it failed.
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Old 04-07-2018, 10:59 PM   #35
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I have a slight concern on the heat dissipation issue with AMD processor too. I am looking at the 14" one. I wonder why the 256GB SSD which should hold the Win 10 OS is installed as 2nd drive while the 1st drive is left empty. Isn't the system drive is always installed as 1st drive? Anyone here can enlighten me?

I went AddOn at Bugis Junction this afternoon, trying to take a look at the actual notebook. But I was told it is only available online.
You can read the previous gen Thinkpad A275 based on AMD Bristol Ridge.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo...ml#toc-verdict

No mention about overheating except slow system performance.
The 2500U is 15Watt TDP so unlikely to overheat.
Unless processor like Intel H series 6 core rated at 45watt TDP,
the temp under load can go as high as 80 degrees.

If we are talking about processor with 45W TDP than perhaps but
it is 15Watt TDP.
Anyway for those who think AMD is slow and hot don't get it.

Not citing AMD still have the issue if you are not comfortable
or confidential in AMD laptop than just get Intel.
Most Intel laptop comes with Intel UHD and optional graphics
like Geforce/Radeon which means more $.

AMD Ryzen based laptop is one chip with decent CPU and Vega graphics.
On default for AMD laptop will be Vega while Intel is the crappy UHD.
That is why most laptop for Intel usually comes with discrete graphic
as Intel UHD is CMI.

Intel UHD have to be enabled to save power especially on battery.
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You can read the previous gen Thinkpad A275 based on AMD Bristol Ridge.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo...ml#toc-verdict

No mention about overheating except slow system performance.
The 2500U is 15Watt TDP so unlikely to overheat.
Unless processor like Intel H series 6 core rated at 45watt TDP,
the temp under load can go as high as 80 degrees.

If we are talking about processor with 45W TDP than perhaps but
it is 15Watt TDP.
Anyway for those who think AMD is slow and hot don't get it.

Not citing AMD still have the issue if you are not comfortable
or confidential in AMD laptop than just get Intel.
Most Intel laptop comes with Intel UHD and optional graphics
like Geforce/Radeon which means more $.

AMD Ryzen based laptop is one chip with decent CPU and Vega graphics.
On default for AMD laptop will be Vega while Intel is the crappy UHD.
That is why most laptop for Intel usually comes with discrete graphic
as Intel UHD is CMI.

Intel UHD have to be enabled to save power especially on battery.
Just ordered one @ $815.03 this morning for my daughter as her Acer Aspire 5 is getting old and we would not want to have sudden failure in notebook interrupting her course work. Chosen 2x4GB ram, 65W charger and Win10 Home since her don't play games and her course work has no video editing, should not be too taxing on memory and processing power. Just hope everything goes well.
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Old 05-07-2018, 09:24 PM   #37
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Review on Ideapad 720S which is also fitted with Ryzen 5 2500U indicate inadequate cooling leading to throttling of processor under heavy load. Let's hope Lenovo has learnt the lesson and made necessary improvement on these new models.
I've not seen the chassis used by the ThinkPad, but realistically, any thin profile laptops tend to suffer from throttling. It is just a matter of how much it gets throttled. The same applies to Intel's 15W processors too. Case in point, my Lenovo Miix 720.

Even assuming that thermals is not the issue, 15W processors will still throttle because of the low power limit. This is especially the case when you are gaming because both the CPU and GPU are under load.
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Old 05-07-2018, 09:40 PM   #38
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Just ordered one @ $815.03 this morning for my daughter as her Acer Aspire 5 is getting old and we would not want to have sudden failure in notebook interrupting her course work. Chosen 2x4GB ram, 65W charger and Win10 Home since her don't play games and her course work has no video editing, should not be too taxing on memory and processing power. Just hope everything goes well.
One thing do take note is after you got the unit.
Do a fresh install of the OS than load all the driver properly.
Out of the box OS usually are slow and bloated with junks.
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One thing do take note is after you got the unit.
Do a fresh install of the OS than load all the driver properly.
Out of the box OS usually are slow and bloated with junks.
I don't do this. For me, I will just go in an remove all the bloatware that I don't use and run a registry cleaner, e.g. CCleaner. Even Win 10 itself will install rubbish like Candy Crush and a bunch of other games.

Nowadays with SSDs, slowness due to too many apps is not that apparent as those mechanical drive days where I will always format my PC/ laptops annually to spur it back to a "speedy" state.
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One thing do take note is after you got the unit.
Do a fresh install of the OS than load all the driver properly.
Out of the box OS usually are slow and bloated with junks.
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:30 PM   #41
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I don't do this. For me, I will just go in an remove all the bloatware that I don't use and run a registry cleaner, e.g. CCleaner. Even Win 10 itself will install rubbish like Candy Crush and a bunch of other games.

Nowadays with SSDs, slowness due to too many apps is not that apparent as those mechanical drive days where I will always format my PC/ laptops annually to spur it back to a "speedy" state.
True. I have been running my Intel E8400 desktop Win 10 with only 4GB DDR2 RAM for some time. Simple word processing and web browsing are no problem. With latest intel processor and 8GB DDR4 RAM, the performance should be faster than my present desktop except for video perhaps. But then my daughter does not play PC games.
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True. I have been running my Intel E8400 desktop Win 10 with only 4GB DDR2 RAM for some time. Simple word processing and web browsing are no problem. With latest intel processor and 8GB DDR4 RAM, the performance should be faster than my present desktop except for video perhaps. But then my daughter does not play PC games.
Please post your thoughts when you get it. Tia
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True. I have been running my Intel E8400 desktop Win 10 with only 4GB DDR2 RAM for some time. Simple word processing and web browsing are no problem. With latest intel processor and 8GB DDR4 RAM, the performance should be faster than my present desktop except for video perhaps. But then my daughter does not play PC games.
With Win 10, a SSD is almost a must if you want a responsive PC. With the mechanical drive being the significantly slowest part in the PC nowadays, it will take a toll on performance/ responsiveness big time.
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on specs it puts 2700..

but don't seem to have this option?
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Old 08-07-2018, 03:00 AM   #45
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I cant access the customisation page for 485/585 on both web and mobile. Anyone else facing the same issue?
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