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Old 29-08-2010, 03:03 AM   #1
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Question How's the FASS CNM course like?

Are there any Communications and New Media students from NUS FASS here?

How're the modules there? I have seen the list of modules, but those are just names and titles. Are the list stated on http://www.fas.nus.edu.sg/cnm/module...ules_undergrad the only required modules other that the usual breadth, gems and ss modules that I need to take to file for graduation? So if I intend to major in Media Design, I will just need to take all the modules under the column right? Is the place very competitive and stressful too?

My concern is that the course may be too theoreotical and most modules are 100% exam based(?), which are mugging and memorising work. I hate to memorise textbooks aimlessly. It is too stupid to do this. I am more interested in the hands on stuff to design and the opportunities to explore interactive medias, especially in the form of public digital art installations and filming. Also, what are the prospects in this course?

Just a little more info about myself, I am currently a Year 1 NUS student in SoC. However, I realise that the Communication and New Media in SoC isn't quite like what I expected since I need to go through a number of math modules, which I find those dreadful. I don't know when I will ever get stuck at one of the math modules along the years, considering I don't even have A-Math in secondary school and I need to go through 5 math modules. I came from poly with a multimedia background. While I handled with computing related things in poly, it was like a 30% computing 70% creative work course. During university application, I had the idea that the title Communication and New Media under SoC would be the same as my poly. I enjoyed the poly course as I like the idea to implement computers into art works. As I am still at my year1 sem1, I don't wish to delay to a stage where I totally got stuck and need to drag through the years painfully. At the same time, I don't wish to switch to another course that is misled by its title again. I recently came to know about the CNM from FASS and considered a switch while converting my current semester's CS modules to UE modules at FASS.

Feel free to advise me too if you have any. I am quite lost actually as currently, I only seem to enjoy the CS1102 module though it is getting faster and tougher each lecture. Other than that, the science and math really is a pain in my ass. I have the thought to just close my eyes to go through the 4yrs and graduate from SoC but when I think of the possibility that I may get stuck at one of the math modules(considering my current lousy math standard), I am freaking worried. I can't stand it as I feel like I totally giving up all my time to mug on just the math. I have no time for myself at all. Worst part is I don't know if I would want a job as a programmer for the next 20yrs after I graduate.

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Old 29-08-2010, 03:13 PM   #2
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Are there any Communications and New Media students from NUS FASS here?

How're the modules there? I have seen the list of modules, but those are just names and titles. Are the list stated on http://www.fas.nus.edu.sg/cnm/module...ules_undergrad the only required modules other that the usual breadth, gems and ss modules that I need to take to file for graduation? So if I intend to major in Media Design, I will just need to take all the modules under the column right? Is the place very competitive and stressful too?

My concern is that the course may be too theoreotical and most modules are 100% exam based(?), which are mugging and memorising work. I hate to memorise textbooks aimlessly. It is too stupid to do this. I am more interested in the hands on stuff to design and the opportunities to explore interactive medias, especially in the form of public digital art installations and filming. Also, what are the prospects in this course?

Just a little more info about myself, I am currently a Year 1 NUS student in SoC. However, I realise that the Communication and New Media in SoC isn't quite like what I expected since I need to go through a number of math modules, which I find those dreadful. I don't know when I will ever get stuck at one of the math modules along the years, considering I don't even have A-Math in secondary school and I need to go through 5 math modules. I came from poly with a multimedia background. While I handled with computing related things in poly, it was like a 30% computing 70% creative work course. During university application, I had the idea that the title Communication and New Media under SoC would be the same as my poly. I enjoyed the poly course as I like the idea to implement computers into art works. As I am still at my year1 sem1, I don't wish to delay to a stage where I totally got stuck and need to drag through the years painfully. At the same time, I don't wish to switch to another course that is misled by its title again. I recently came to know about the CNM from FASS and considered a switch while converting my current semester's CS modules to UE modules at FASS.

Feel free to advise me too if you have any. I am quite lost actually as currently, I only seem to enjoy the CS1102 module though it is getting faster and tougher each lecture. Other than that, the science and math really is a pain in my ass. I have the thought to just close my eyes to go through the 4yrs and graduate from SoC but when I think of the possibility that I may get stuck at one of the math modules(considering my current lousy math standard), I am freaking worried. I can't stand it as I feel like I totally giving up all my time to mug on just the math. I have no time for myself at all. Worst part is I don't know if I would want a job as a programmer for the next 20yrs after I graduate.

thanks in advance.
u might want to switch if u hate math, since u have to do 5 math modules. from what i gather CNM is pretty design-centric too
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Old 29-08-2010, 03:35 PM   #3
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how is CNM's design centric course like? My concern is I am worry that all the modules in CNM are going to be memorising the whole thick textbook of theories and crappy concepts created by some famous people rather than allowing the students to explore their creativity and having opportunities to implement the creative ideas that they have.

also, I am not sure about the FASS course structure. Other than the modules listed on the CNM website and the ULRs, are there other modules I have to take?
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how is CNM's design centric course like? My concern is I am worry that all the modules in CNM are going to be memorising the whole thick textbook of theories and crappy concepts created by some famous people rather than allowing the students to explore their creativity and having opportunities to implement the creative ideas that they have.

also, I am not sure about the FASS course structure. Other than the modules listed on the CNM website and the ULRs, are there other modules I have to take?
Which do u prefer? math or memorizing "theories and concepts"?

I don't think, sadly, that there's any course in NUS resembling that in yr poly, where the main focus is on design
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Ooh you're in luck. I graduated from CNM and coincidentally, I was from poly as well.

First off, compulsory modules are NM1101E, NM2101, NM2102. Pretty dry stuff but not difficult. You should try to score well for these.

Media Design modules are not bad and they're exactly what you want. Most of them are non-examinable with lots of hands-on assignments. For you, it should be a walk in the park since you came from poly. Because poly has already equipped you with such awesome technical skills that you'll be like omg, why are uni students still doing this old, outdated ****! (no offence to my ex-lecturers and schmates but i was thoroughly flabbergasted)

However, taking Media Design modules alone is not going to fufil major requirements. So you'd need to take some writing/theoretical mods. And it's good because that's the whole point of coming to CNM/FASS - to be able to write (thus communicate). I hope you've not lost your ability to write academically after poly because I did and I struggled for a year.

Anyway, you can pm me if you need to know more. I wouldn't be checking this forum.
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i was from SoC CM major

u wan go FASS CNM, good, cos there alot chiobu, modules are much easier than SoC CM

BUT, dun expect all design modules.. there are alot theory media modules, game design, very dry modules n lots of GROUP projects



u wanna stay in SoC, good luck

Maths modules will kill u, cos u no A.maths in O lvl, i really dread for u..

it's 90% Programming, 10% creativity.. Prepare for endless sleepless nights



why u come NUS?? NTU got one media deisgn course, u shd haf went there
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CNM not exactly well-established yet.
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can u write properly?? if you can't life can be hard
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being from poly you are exempted from some modules and that's a shorter study period for you. cnm has mainly modules that let you specialize in PR (comms management) or interactive media fields.

personally the publications and visual design modules are fun. other than that you can rest assured you will write your worth of essays. but the only math is basic calculations of your brochure dimensions etc when working with adobe indesign =]
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i was from SoC CM major

u wan go FASS CNM, good, cos there alot chiobu, modules are much easier than SoC CM

BUT, dun expect all design modules.. there are alot theory media modules, game design, very dry modules n lots of GROUP projects



u wanna stay in SoC, good luck

Maths modules will kill u, cos u no A.maths in O lvl, i really dread for u..

it's 90% Programming, 10% creativity.. Prepare for endless sleepless nights



why u come NUS?? NTU got one media deisgn course, u shd haf went there


Which group of electives did you do when u were at SoC CM? I intended to do the NM mods when I first applied for SoC.

Even in the CM course, it is still 90% programming? Then in CS course is unimaginable. I think it is still ok if the endless sleepless nights are used to do something that are still doable and interesting. If those nights are to do things that are crazily difficult and unmanageable(for me at least), I am quite worried. I had to burn every weekend just for MA1301. I can't imagine when calculus, linear algebra, discrete math and other crap come next sem and I have other modules that are worst than the CS1102.

The math modules make me feel like my NS time were even better than schooling! WTF man!

I initially wanted to apply for the NTU's ADM courses but I thought NUS is nearer to my house and the "Communication and New Media" title in a computing school sounds like what I have been doing in poly. At that time, I didn't know about the CNM in FASS. Now, since I am already in NUS, going to NTU is going to waste my 1 semester of time and money.
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Which group of electives did you do when u were at SoC CM? I intended to do the NM mods when I first applied for SoC.

Even in the CM course, it is still 90% programming? Then in CS course is unimaginable. I think it is still ok if the endless sleepless nights are used to do something that are still doable and interesting. If those nights are to do things that are crazily difficult and unmanageable(for me at least), I am quite worried. I had to burn every weekend just for MA1301. I can't imagine when calculus, linear algebra, discrete math and other crap come next sem and I have other modules that are worst than the CS1102.

The math modules make me feel like my NS time were even better than schooling! WTF man!

I initially wanted to apply for the NTU's ADM courses but I thought NUS is nearer to my house and the "Communication and New Media" title in a computing school sounds like what I have been doing in poly. At that time, I didn't know about the CNM in FASS. Now, since I am already in NUS, going to NTU is going to waste my 1 semester of time and money.
I'm currently in SoC, planning to major in CM, saw the module requirements, yes, it's 90% programming, I think only got a few modules that doesn't really require programming or math like NM2101 etc, but these are kind of the only few. The SoC CM is more on the technology and implementation of media industry.
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Old 29-08-2010, 11:33 PM   #12
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I'm currently in SoC, planning to major in CM, saw the module requirements, yes, it's 90% programming, I think only got a few modules that doesn't really require programming or math like NM2101 etc, but these are kind of the only few. The SoC CM is more on the technology and implementation of media industry.
Even taking the modules under the content creation and mass communication group of electives still 90% programming? If like that I die liao...hahaha...

The math is definitely no escape so no need to take about it already.
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being from poly you are exempted from some modules and that's a shorter study period for you. cnm has mainly modules that let you specialize in PR (comms management) or interactive media fields.

personally the publications and visual design modules are fun. other than that you can rest assured you will write your worth of essays. but the only math is basic calculations of your brochure dimensions etc when working with adobe indesign =]
Even specialising in the interactive media fields, there are more essay writing mods than the visual design aspect right? Or at least 100% CA mods are nice too. haha!

The essay writing mods are exam based? So I will need to just sit for the exam and just smoke out a good essay with zero grammatical english? Something like any usual english exam, ES1102 that sort of?
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Even taking the modules under the content creation and mass communication group of electives still 90% programming? If like that I die liao...hahaha...

The math is definitely no escape so no need to take about it already.
I'm talking about the SoC's CM, don't know about the FASS one, and I'm taking game development specialization of CM, so it's probably more hardcore in terms of programming than the normal CM.
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I'm talking about the SoC's CM, don't know about the FASS one, and I'm taking game development specialization of CM, so it's probably more hardcore in terms of programming than the normal CM.
There is a content creation and mass communication group under SoC's CM. But I think I only need to a maximum of 24MCs from this group. So that's only like 1 to 2 semesters of modules. The other 6 to 7 semesters are still math and programming. wtf!
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