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Old 05-01-2016, 02:27 PM   #8881
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Ahh ありがとうございました 先輩たち! I will try out tonight
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Old 05-01-2016, 03:41 PM   #8882
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You are using a book that I use also!
Japanese for busy people 2 textbook
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Old 07-01-2016, 11:16 PM   #8883
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when you look at the verb conjugation, you should be able to recognize the dictionary[dictionary kei]/basic/root form depending which textbooks you are familiar with.

There are two kinds of regular verb in Japanese. One kind, "consonant stem", "group I" or, in Japanese, godan verbs, conjugates such that the rightmost unchanging element is a consonant. For example, (1)iku (to go) conjugates as (2)ikeru, (3)ikinasai, (4)ikanai, (5)ikou. The other group, "vowel stem", "group II", or, in Japanese, ichidan verbs, conjugates such that the rightmost unchanging element is a vowel. For example, taberu (to eat) conjugates as taberareru, tabenasai, tabenai, tabeyou

Japanese verbs are divided into three groups based on the last syllable of the basic (dictionary) form. You need to know which group a verb belongs to in order to produce the conjugated forms.

Grouping rules:


Group II:

Verbs in group II end with the syllable ru (る), with the preceding syllable containing the vowels e or i. Some exceptions are kaeru (帰る "return home"), hashiru (走る "run"), kiru (切る "cut"), iru (要る, "need"), and hairu (入る "enter").


Group I:

Verbs in group I end with syllables ku (く), gu (ぐ), su (す), mu (む), nu (ぬ), bu (ぶ), u (う), tsu (つ), or ru (る). Verbs ending in ru (る) contain the vowels u, o or a in the preceding syllable. Some exceptions are kaeru (帰る "return home"), hashiru (走る "run"), kiru (切る "cut"), iru (要る, "need"), and hairu (入る "enter").


Group III (Irregular):

Verbs in group 3 are suru (する "do") or kuru (くる "come").

Good Luck
This is very useful!

Thank you!

Always confused at how to identify verbs by its grouping other than checking the dictionary. (Group 1/2)
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Old 07-01-2016, 11:51 PM   #8884
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A bit late, but hope this is useful.

漢: Kanji
平: Hiragana
片仮名: Katakana

Group 1 verbs: The ます-stem ends with a [i]-sound


Group 2 verbs: The ます-stem ends with a [e]-sound. For special cases like 見ます,借ります, できます、起きます、降ります、浴びます、います, just memorize.


Group 3:
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Old 08-01-2016, 01:06 AM   #8885
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Old 10-01-2016, 10:36 PM   #8886
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Thank you 先輩たち, now I know how to identify!

You are using a book that I use also!
Japanese for busy people 2 textbook
Cool! are you taking classes and which level are you at? I took classes some years back and taken n5 only.. Now study on my own and see if I wanna continue taking exams or not, or just study for fun haha.. Seems like all given back to sensei lol
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Old 10-01-2016, 10:40 PM   #8887
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New Beginner class starting on Thurs for those interested.

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Cool! are you taking classes and which level are you at? I took classes some years back and taken n5 only.. Now study on my own and see if I wanna continue taking exams or not, or just study for fun haha.. Seems like all given back to sensei lol
I used these books when I was self-studying in my days. Nowadays I used these for reference in some introductory classes.
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Old 21-01-2016, 07:02 PM   #8889
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こんばんは

日本語のプロダクション練習は特にやっていないから文句の言葉遣いはちょっと不自然かもしれないけど

「人間失格」を読んでた人がいるんですか?少しのライトノベルを読めた事があるですけど、もしいるとしたら難易度はどれくらい高いのを教えてくれないですか?この古典はいい評判を持ってるので、面白い読書練習と思ってきた。

よろしくおねがいします~
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Old 25-01-2016, 11:08 PM   #8890
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どんな時どう使う日本語表現文型500

Can I use どんな時どう使う日本語表現文型500 to prepare for N1 or do I have to use it together with the Kanzen Master series or just the Kanzen Master series would do?
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Old 25-01-2016, 11:14 PM   #8891
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Can I use どんな時どう使う日本語表現文型500 to prepare for N1 or do I have to use it together with the Kanzen Master series or just the Kanzen Master series would do?
どんなとき is a good book to use. would recommend that to get a overall view of N1-N3 grammar. I`ve been using that book in my private N1 class.

U might need Kanzen Master to supplement some of the explanation inside.
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Old 27-01-2016, 09:34 AM   #8892
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JLPT results out today.
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Old 27-01-2016, 09:38 AM   #8893
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やばい....failed n1 (94/180)
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Old 28-01-2016, 01:55 AM   #8894
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i thought this time round, the N1 was kinda crazy... my student missed by 1 mark (99/180) for N1... 本当に惜しかったです。
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こんばんは

日本語のプロダクション練習は特にやっていないから文句の言葉遣いはちょっと不自然かもしれないけど

「人間失格」を読んでた人がいるんですか?少しのライトノベルを読めた事があるですけど、もしいるとしたら難易度はどれくらい高いのを教えてくれないですか?この古典はいい評判を持ってるので、面白い読書練習と思ってきた。

よろしくおねがいします~
「人間失格」か。。ネットで見たことがありますね。
日本にいる間に何度も考えていた言葉ですけど。
もちろん、日本の挨拶文化になかなか慣れない自分のことを指しますが。

がんばればN2からライトノベルは読めると思うけど、わからない単語が多くて少し辛いかもしれません。
古典なら、N1を勉強しながら読んだほうがいいと思います。
ついでにN1対象の文法もすぐに把握できますので。

取り急ぎ。
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