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Old 07-05-2016, 11:21 PM   #9061
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7月にJLPT N1級を受けるみなさまへ、

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日時:6月27-30日 (月-金) 2時から5時まで
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2) 文法の復習
3) よく出る言葉
4) 例年の試験問題集

申し込みはdimitri_canまでお願いいたします。
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Old 17-05-2016, 12:02 AM   #9062
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Another question that i guess a lot of learners are not sure about...

1) あそこに車を止めてください

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2) あそこで車を止めてください

What`s the difference???
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Old 17-05-2016, 07:41 PM   #9063
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Another question that i guess a lot of learners are not sure about...

1) あそこに車を止めてください

vs

2) あそこで車を止めてください

What`s the difference???
Hmm...

1) Park the car in the directed parking lot or area?
2) Stop the car in the area?
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Old 17-05-2016, 10:28 PM   #9064
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Ikoma???
Seems that Ikoma teaches the students like this... =/
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Old 18-05-2016, 11:00 AM   #9065
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Ikoma???
Seems that Ikoma teaches the students like this... =/
Yes. Ikoma.
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Old 18-05-2016, 12:40 PM   #9066
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I will say passive learning is not for everyone. I have watched Japanese drama for almost 20 years and learnt little. Yes vocab is okay but Japanese grammar are intense and only after I started classes then I was able to better understand the language.

After having a certain level of Japanese, you can start to gain more knowledge passively from Anime/Drama.
one more plus point of passive learning, either watching drama/anime/listening to songs is to learn their way of pronunciation/speaking. you can pass JLPT 1, be good in grammar/vocab, but when it comes to speaking, it's another thing.
i have seen many people who have passed their JLPT 1/2 exams but their speaking is still far way off.
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Old 18-05-2016, 12:56 PM   #9067
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Another question that i guess a lot of learners are not sure about...

1) あそこに車を止めてください

vs

2) あそこで車を止めてください

What`s the difference???
Ikoma???
Seems that Ikoma teaches the students like this... =/
no, my Ikoma teacher did not teach me this way

1) あそこに車を止めてください
The point is on "going there: に"
vs

2) あそこで車を止めてください
The point is on "at the location:で"
the action of parking 'there「で」"

We can translate both sentences to "Please park the car there"
but some subtle meaning of the sentence is lost.
and it's hard to get a direct translation of the exact meaning.
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Old 18-05-2016, 10:01 PM   #9068
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one more plus point of passive learning, either watching drama/anime/listening to songs is to learn their way of pronunciation/speaking. you can pass JLPT 1, be good in grammar/vocab, but when it comes to speaking, it's another thing.
i have seen many people who have passed their JLPT 1/2 exams but their speaking is still far way off.
That is why I feel it is impt to have a class setting that encourages speaking. Also, join meetup both locally and in Japan that focus on speaking Japanese. I have been to a quite few quality ones where they have a topic and everyone share their views, as well as understand the different approach that different culture have towards the topic.

Ultimately, I feel that you should learn the language holistically, from classes, to immersion, to speaking with natives.
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Old 19-05-2016, 06:19 PM   #9069
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hi all, is ikoma a gd places to start learning basic japanese classes?
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Old 20-05-2016, 02:41 PM   #9070
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That is why I feel it is impt to have a class setting that encourages speaking. Also, join meetup both locally and in Japan that focus on speaking Japanese. I have been to a quite few quality ones where they have a topic and everyone share their views, as well as understand the different approach that different culture have towards the topic.

Ultimately, I feel that you should learn the language holistically, from classes, to immersion, to speaking with natives.
yeah agree with that.
and also, it would be very good if there is someone who can honestly correct you whenever you make mistakes in either your written or spoken japanese. teachers in schools do that, but mostly only in written cases. and also, the students are "the people who pay their salaries", so sometimes the teacher won't be that straight to the students. even natives whom you speak to, seldom do that. they will just cont the conversation as long as both sides understand each other.

it's nice to have someone to say to u "eh, your pronunciation is very weird leh, and then teach you the correct way"
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Old 21-05-2016, 01:59 AM   #9071
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Answer as per follows:

To help aid the understanding, let`s do a bit of revision on the particle 「で」 and 「に」

食堂昼ご飯を食べます。
Eat lunch at the dining hall.
The 「」 here refers to the place where the action of eating lunch is done.

あそこ車があります。
Over there, lies a car.
The 「」here refers to the location of where the car exists.

Going back to the sentence 「あそこ車を止めてください」,
it means ``please stop the car over there`` (focus is more on location).

「あそこ車を止めてください」means ``please stop the car over there``
(focus is more on doing the action of stopping over there)

For example, a car park owner might say something like this to a person who is trying to park a car…
「ここは駐車禁止ですから、あそこ止めてください。」
``Parking is prohibited here. Please stop/park the car over there (focus on location)

It would be unnatural to say 「あそこ止めてください。」

In Lesson 14 of Minna no Nihongo, Karina-san said to the taxi driver,
「花屋の前止めてください」
Please stop in front of the flower shop (focus on place where action is done: Flower shop)

Please let me know if you still have difficulties understanding this.

Have a good day ahead.

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Old 21-05-2016, 10:09 PM   #9072
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For those who are interested to not just learn the language, but also understand the culture, food, drama, etc, etc. I recommend you to join this FB that is set up by me and my students.

http://goo.gl/vTl3U9

I am sure you would also learn more. =)
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Old 24-05-2016, 02:41 PM   #9073
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Ikoma???
Seems that Ikoma teaches the students like this... =/
It depends on the context. there are some stuff that cant be translated using English as the translation language.

Sometimes I find Taiwanese-Japanese books come in handy in such situations where Mandarin would be a better language in teaching Japanese.
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Old 24-05-2016, 02:48 PM   #9074
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That is why I feel it is impt to have a class setting that encourages speaking. Also, join meetup both locally and in Japan that focus on speaking Japanese. I have been to a quite few quality ones where they have a topic and everyone share their views, as well as understand the different approach that different culture have towards the topic.

Ultimately, I feel that you should learn the language holistically, from classes, to immersion, to speaking with natives.
From my experience, I believe that speaking is the toughest to pick up. Another aspect is to learn, relearn and unlearn.

I have seen JLPT 1 / JLPT 2 holders but the accent is totally off/out, making the native listener having a hard time trying to pick up the conversation and thus ending the conversation fast.

many times I see learners able to construct grammatical perfect sentences but the accent is kind of .........

Good luck to all the learners out there!
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Old 24-05-2016, 02:49 PM   #9075
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hi all, is ikoma a gd places to start learning basic japanese classes?
I believe many places(I mean schools) are good to start learning basic Japanese classes.
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