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Old 22-12-2019, 11:42 PM   #16
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If you buy a game from steam in China, CIS, Argentina etc, is possible that might have a problem with it being in foreign language (not in English) or maybe region locked and cannot be installed or played in Singapore?
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Old 22-12-2019, 11:43 PM   #17
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If you buy a game from steam in China, CIS, Argentina etc, is possible that might have a problem with it being in foreign language (not in English) or maybe region locked and cannot be installed or played in Singapore?
Absolutely not, go to the game page, language column and see the supported languages. I bought AC: Odyssey today, it started in english, didn't even go to the Argentina native language. Just stay in the argentina store. No reason to change back unless there's a singapore exclusive game. Don't think there's region lock. You can even install DotA and play on SEA. The store region doesn't affect anything.
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Old 23-12-2019, 12:12 AM   #18
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Thanks Iantzr.

So in argentina steam store, I will be buying in steam wallet USD or SGD credits?
So in the argentina steam store, red dead redemption is being sold at USD$ 33.47 or SGD 45.34 .
If I just want to buy this game I should go to carousel and buy steam wallet worth in USD 40 credits or SGD 50 credits?

Can you send your link to which carousel seller you buy the credits from?

All this is new to me, thanks for your patience and tips.
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Old 23-12-2019, 09:16 PM   #19
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Allow me to answer your questions, I am not the real pro haha!

I wanted to buy Jurassic World, Planet Zoo and several games for myself and my siblings to share and play. I had two steam accounts, so to test this thing out and avoid any ban to my main account that I have my monster hunter in it, I tried on my 2nd account that I used to collect free games.

I find ways to get steam games cheap until I come across this bro's thread. I began my research and came across the same youtube link as this bro too. So I followed on. I found this Carousell seller that fits the description from this bro and ask seller for the steam wallet rates.

This seller has his own website that shows the current market rate. The rate changes like very 15-30mins. Lowest rate should be SGD$106 and highest should be SGD$109 or $110. The seller also very kind to give constant reminder that the rates is declining or inclining. The seller apparently has a US supplier/partner that is providing him with steam wallet codes.

Once I paylah him, I receive my steam wallet code immediately. The seller also prefer that I enter the code on my own but he did offer his help to login as I was busy working. I went ahead to do it on my own. Enter the code and steam immediately displays the conversion of USD to SGD. In this manner, I already earn some steam cash liao.

Next, to further gain from this. I change my region to Argentina. TAKE NOTE! There is a cooling time period before you can change region!! They will display the date and time when you are allowed to change. The date and time is follow the Argentina time not Singapore. - This cooling period is given due to the recent purchase/entry of the Steam wallet code. This should be Steam trying to stop people exploiting and use this method to purchase games with different region during special sales period. But if you can wait and the sales of those games you want is still on, then why not?! HAHA! And also most games' sales doesn't end immediately...

After I waited, should be about 24 hours, I change region and my Steam wallet converts from SGD to Argentina Pesos. Next time I just chiong and buy the games I want. I understand that if you choose to gift, Steam may stop you but I cannot confirm this. I just buy and install into this Argentina account.

Now I have Pesos balance, so I shall keep until I find games to buy. Next time, just top up into this wallet. Steam Wallet cannot be withdraw out...

I am not using VPN after I change my region. Games play as per normal. And yes I also use the Tiger VPN free trial.

My address I use as per instructed in the Youtube video. For my street address I use my own Singapore block and street name while postal code and city belongs to Argentina!

That's all! Very happy with this, save money too in order to play this games...

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Old 23-12-2019, 10:57 PM   #20
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Thanks Ken for your long reply and experience.

1) So now you still have 2 steam accounts, 1 Singapore and 1 Argentina one? Never thought of that. No problem playing games on either one?

2) After you created your Argentina account and the trial VPN has ended, can you access the Argentina account to buy games without using VPN and your own computer time still showing Singapore time zone?

3) Can you send me the link to the carousell seller you bought from? Any idea why the rates for the steam wallet changes so rapidly? Due to demand?

Thanks for sharing
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Old 23-12-2019, 11:07 PM   #21
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I bought the steam credits from https://sg.carousell.com/minosviel/

I only have one steam account, its still in argentina region. I bought AC: Odyssey, , and also a ton of other games which i refunded all except for AC. No issues playing the games while in a different region store.

Apparently a group of steam games sellers do use Ken's method. They have a argentina account, they will log in to your account, change to argentina region and gift the games to you using their argentina account while you pay a higher amount to them for buying the games for you. The difference in the amount is their commission.

So far havn't found how they get to purchase the steam credits at a cheap rate.
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Old 23-12-2019, 11:56 PM   #22
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Thanks Ken for your long reply and experience.

1) So now you still have 2 steam accounts, 1 Singapore and 1 Argentina one? Never thought of that. No problem playing games on either one?

2) After you created your Argentina account and the trial VPN has ended, can you access the Argentina account to buy games without using VPN and your own computer time still showing Singapore time zone?

3) Can you send me the link to the carousell seller you bought from? Any idea why the rates for the steam wallet changes so rapidly? Due to demand?

Thanks for sharing
1) You can create several emails so why not for Steam account? haha! Both my accounts also different emails.

2) After I switch region, I just leave it already. I play my games with that Argentina account without VPN. My prices in the Steam store are Argentina Pesos.

3) Bro iantzr has provided the link to the seller. I did asked this seller about the rates, and yes it fluctuate with demands. I understand it can get higher when new popular games release or hot sales.
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Old 24-12-2019, 12:01 AM   #23
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I bought the steam credits from https://sg.carousell.com/minosviel/

I only have one steam account, its still in argentina region. I bought AC: Odyssey, , and also a ton of other games which i refunded all except for AC. No issues playing the games while in a different region store.

Apparently a group of steam games sellers do use Ken's method. They have a argentina account, they will log in to your account, change to argentina region and gift the games to you using their argentina account while you pay a higher amount to them for buying the games for you. The difference in the amount is their commission.

So far havn't found how they get to purchase the steam credits at a cheap rate.
Actually I have not try gifting to my Singapore account. I not sure if it will work or not.

And I did mention before, after I bought the Steam credits I had a cooling period imposed before I can switch to Argentina. I think this may impose on gifting games as well.

After switching to a new region, I think you will need 2 weeks cooling period before you can switch a new region again.
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Old 24-12-2019, 12:03 AM   #24
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I only change my timezone and use the free VPN to change to Argentina. After that, I no longer use and I also switch back to SG timezone
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Old 24-12-2019, 12:09 AM   #25
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After you have your Argentina account, everytime you buy games from Argentina store, do you need to use the VPN? Thanks Ken for your advice.
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Old 24-12-2019, 12:23 AM   #26
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No need to use VPN once changed to Argentina. Steam only check your IP when you are trying to change your store, once changed, it doesn't verify your IP when purchasing games.

I am still buying games with pesos while in my starhub ISP.
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Old 24-12-2019, 12:28 AM   #27
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Thanks iantzr for your reply.

I am actually thinking of changing to China store as the game I want Red dead redemption 2 is cheapest there. S$7 Cheaper than Argentina but not sure worth the trouble since Argentina store is a proven to work by you and Ken .
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Old 24-12-2019, 12:33 AM   #28
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Thanks iantzr for your reply.

I am actually thinking of changing to China store as the game I want Red dead redemption 2 is cheapest there. S$7 Cheaper than Argentina but not sure worth the trouble since Argentina store seems is a proven by you and Ken.
Sure you can. Provided that the VPN software you find has China included. And also theres a cooldown period for changing stores, so you will be stucked in china store for awhile. Heard Ken mention its 2 week.

I heard about region lock but if Ken able to play the games after changing back to SG store then I guess it's no issue.
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Old 24-12-2019, 07:33 AM   #29
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USA wallet gift code can be used globally though I am unsure of the argentina conversion rate.

On paper it is bannable but afaik of people doing it for years, they didn't get banned.
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Old 24-12-2019, 08:55 AM   #30
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Dont invest too heavily on the vpn workaround. If you havent been suspended, it will happen sooner or later. My friend account was suspended after doing this for about a year. Luckily he only had about 80+ games in that account. The suspension usually takes some time to happen. This method is only good for those who do not care about collecting games (play new game cheaply, ban by steam, rinse and repeat).

Just do the cheap Carousell Steam giftcard trick and purchase from the SG Steam store instead. This is the safer route.

No need to use VPN once changed to Argentina. Steam only check your IP when you are trying to change your store, once changed, it doesn't verify your IP when purchasing games.

I am still buying games with pesos while in my starhub ISP.
Thanks iantzr for your reply.

I am actually thinking of changing to China store as the game I want Red dead redemption 2 is cheapest there. S$7 Cheaper than Argentina but not sure worth the trouble since Argentina store is a proven to work by you and Ken .
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