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danzodanzo 01-02-2008 11:47 AM

If you read carefully, the DL MBA list is just Financial Times's picks of top DL MBAs,
- not by rankings.

They only published on global ranking once per year. i.e.
http://media.ft.com/cms/9fe070e6-ca7...0077b07658.pdf

For the case of Manchester and Strathclyde, all MBA formats leads to the same cert.
(You can also opt to fly to UK to do a few modules on campus).
If you are considering a career switch, and/or are early in your career, perhaps a Full-Time MBA is better.
However, if you are mid/top-career, a part-time/exec MBA will fit the bill better,
and you get to network among the current managers of the industries, as well as apply/derive your learnings on-the-job.
(This is the biggest plus point of a Part-Time over a Full-Time MBA, as most Full-Time participants are younger and has NO CURRENT Jobs).

Quote:

Originally Posted by delay (Post 27958281)
that ranking is for full time mba

FT also publishes rankings for distance learning mba
http://media.ft.com/cms/a47575cc-d31...00779e2340.pdf


delay 02-02-2008 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darka2000 (Post 27959847)
without a common basis for competitive comparison on p/t & d/l programmes, FT MBA statistics are commonly used to denote the recognition of the course especially when some p/t &d/l certificates bear the same parchment as the FT MBA. in my opinion, all the links you have presented are still lacking in objective/professional assessment. they merely encapsulated student's feedback and enrolment statistics, a far cry of professional assessment on the academical quality. :look:



no all in my cohort received the invitation to participate in survey dude. incidentally, so far i have only noticed 1 job posting from HP/SPAM and requiring 10 yrs exp in the same field which i shy'ed away. bloodshed in Fall Street. run by MBA's, and i would like to stress, the elites! not to worry, the prospect of APAC non FT MBA grad is still good, as long as they are rich in experience and do not ask for the stars and moon.


i totally agree!
all the rankings are skewed 1 way or the other so take it with a pinch of salt!

that said i actually think the ranking of rankings which is like a combination of all the rankings perhaps makes the most sense? maybe, i dunno haha

as for the feedback, if you are serious, write to FT about it. I guarantee you will make more moola than selling your essay :P

btw, this FT ranking is using 2004 grads stats i THINK. :P

delay 02-02-2008 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danzodanzo (Post 27960810)
If you read carefully, the DL MBA list is just Financial Times's picks of top DL MBAs,
- not by rankings.

They only published on global ranking once per year. i.e.
http://media.ft.com/cms/9fe070e6-ca7...0077b07658.pdf

For the case of Manchester and Strathclyde, all MBA formats leads to the same cert.
(You can also opt to fly to UK to do a few modules on campus).
If you are considering a career switch, and/or are early in your career, perhaps a Full-Time MBA is better.
However, if you are mid/top-career, a part-time/exec MBA will fit the bill better,
and you get to network among the current managers of the industries, as well as apply/derive your learnings on-the-job.
(This is the biggest plus point of a Part-Time over a Full-Time MBA, as most Full-Time participants are younger and has NO CURRENT Jobs).

ah, you are right!

and yes, increasingly younger kids are doing their MBA!

Macbookpro555 02-02-2008 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspiron510m (Post 27958824)
Hi danzodanzo,

Firstly, sincere thanks for all your posts, in particular, the one I quoted, it provided me with some useful insights.

Not meaning to be lazy but if you could, can you provide a similar analysis for the Strathclyde MBA? It would be great to see some analysis from a 3rd party point of view
Regards

Hope the below helps.

Strathclyde MBA

1) One semester is 6 months, 4-5 subjects per 6 months . 6 exams during first year. No exams for second year. for subjects with no exams, fully based on assignments. first year foundation subjects like finance, HR, accounting, marketing. Second year on strategy. average one assignment per month. 16 subjects altogether ( including 3 electives)

2) Strategy MBA with no specific specialisations. Intensive seminars and workshops conducted by strathclyde people ( one intensive seminar per month). local counselling sessions by local lecturers ( average twice a week).

3) No minimum attendance requirement to take the examinations. Option to choose the no. of subjects to be taken per semester.

4) can be completed in 2 years . Max is 6 years.

5) flexibility to transfer to Glasgow or any other centres at any stage .

6) Can do the electives in Glasgow or any other centres ( bahrian, dubai, oman, switzerland, greece , hongkong and etc) at no extra cost.

7) ranked no. 30 in 2008 FT ranking.
http://rankings.ft.com/global-mba-rankings

8) Local partner is times management, minus point is location is not accessible for people who dun drive.

:D

komatineni 03-02-2008 08:29 PM

I think Strathclyde MBA is good choice.
By the way if you can go for the GMAT then SMU is also offering MBA from this year onwards.

Inspiron510m 04-02-2008 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by komatineni (Post 28004341)
I think Strathclyde MBA is good choice.
By the way if you can go for the GMAT then SMU is also offering MBA from this year onwards.

Hi komatineni,

Thanks for highlighting SMU but personally, I think their MBA is overrated (both brand and cost).

Thanks again.

hotdrinks 04-02-2008 11:29 AM

I would go for the Nanyang mba, but that would only be my personal choice. And with no reference to my earlier statement, i would be more concern with the industry's perception of the mba, rather than the perception of the general mass.

But still, at the end of the day its only a door opened. You can walk in, but they can also ask u to walk out haha

komatineni 04-02-2008 06:30 PM

Yeah, i feel the same for SMU after getting some info about the course.
Now i am zoomed in to Manchester Vs Strathclyde .

darka2000 04-02-2008 08:54 PM

with due respect but please apply both. don't be over confident scarli both rejected. i think the success rate was something like 1:2 to 1:3. :D

komatineni 05-02-2008 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darka2000 (Post 28023614)
with due respect but please apply both. don't be over confident scarli both rejected. i think the success rate was something like 1:2 to 1:3. :D

Thanks Bro,

Yeah, I'll apply to both but need to make mind for other reasons :) cost, content etc..

yantao 05-02-2008 06:46 PM

I have currently taking my Manchester MBA. Just finished my course work and working on my personal dissertation. I would like to highlight that this is one of the longest DL MBA, 2.5 yrs for coursework, assignments & exams plus 0.5-2 years for personal dissertation. Most people would not be able to finish the MBA within 3 years, due to the personal dissertation.

What i like about the MBS is that it has 2 majors, engr & finance. Since my background is in IT field, I try to avoid taking some of the finance-bias modules which are very tough for non-finance idiot like myself. However, there are some core-finance modules which is required and they are really tough...

Second thing which i like is the number of study centers they have around the world. If you happen to travel a lot and it clashes with your workshops conducted by the UK professors, you can chose to take the workshop elsewhere in the world.

Maybe i was lucky when i started the course, it's about $30k and the following year, their ranking got promoted and their fees just went straight up. In terms of investment, the returns is even better than my SGX stocks. Let me know if you need more information regarding the course. Cheers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by danzodanzo (Post 27956833)
I just took a look at the Strathclyde MBA and seems its flexible learning structure - which combines self-studies, intensive seminars, local tutorials - is quite similar to that of the Manchester MBA - i.e. it does not tie you down to weekly lectures you must mostly attend.
If your job require you to travel, this flexibility will be a plus point.

Here is some info if you like to "investigate" more about the "part-time" Manchester MBA:

1. 8 core modules (finance or biz track) + 4 electives + 1 big personal project/report.
(If you take the engrg business track, you will need to do a group "live" project/report for one company within your group, plus a smaller personal project)

2. Each 5-month module consist of distance-learning self-study supported by study guides/texts and international e-forums, 3 local tutorial sessions, 1 assignment, 1 exams + 25 hours of workshop/seminar conducted by the UK faculty (who usually fly in for 3 full days or 2 evenings + weekend). The workshop can also be attended in any of their teaching centers in HK, Dubai etc..

3. You can take as many or as little modules you want per 5-month semester, so you can take between 2.5 - 5 years to complete (ave 3 years).

4. Local office and teaching center is at 1 Philip Street (Raffles place MRT)
and is directly administered by the Manchester Business School worldwide division
- not via an agent.
(A key plus point for me as not many MBA business school has a local presence directly here).

5. Ranked consistently 22th in the world in the very competitive FT rankings (2006, 2007, latest 2008), triple-accredited.
http://media.ft.com/cms/9fe070e6-ca70-11dc-a960-000077b07658.pdf


komatineni 05-02-2008 07:27 PM

yantao,

Thats indeed a very good info to know. Yeah, fees definitely an imp factor to consider for me. Other than the pros' about Manchester which you mentioned is there any issues/areas you found quite challenging. i.e. something like the class room composure, experienced folks inside the class, etc. Thx a ton in adv
Plz excuse me if I am asking something which cant be shared.

darka2000 05-02-2008 09:26 PM

hmm interesing revelation. but what's really so difficult about the dissertation yantao? failed and re-take or topic indentification related? :s11:

theonion 05-02-2008 11:46 PM

Just curious, what kind of work do Sg-based MBAs do? Will it be similar to those listed here?

http://www.bankersball.com/2008/02/0...umes/#more-871

And how is the lower half of the first tier US B schools like Tuck, Darden, Kellogg, Fuqua, Haas etc viewed in Sg's context? Is it worth looking at Asian opportunities if you have a MBA from these schools?

I am asking cos a close friend of mine has just got accepted to Fuqua and Darden, and her family wants her to return to Sg after her MBA.

danzodanzo 06-02-2008 12:50 PM

Yantao,

Thanks for sharing.
Yap, is the personal project very difficult?

What major did you take? which are the most tough and most useful/worthwhile modules or experience you get from the MBA?

Wow, $30K is a very good deal you had, compared to about $45K now :)
NUS is now ard $35K, and SMU is over $53K!

When you say ROI is better than SGX stocks, can you elaborate?

Thanks.


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