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Old 20-02-2020, 09:56 AM   #931
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wonder what so good with that Z series ..just because it is a flip phone..
The Z Flip is for folks who are tired of upgrading to yet another candy bar phone, who want to try something new and don't mind specs that are very good, but not the best.

If you show the S20 Ultra to friends, they'll certainly admire the phone but that's it - Yet another phone with X times more megapixels, Y times more battery life, Z times faster processer ... .

Show them the Z Flip however, and jaws will drop. They may very well think you a David Copperfield or a Criss Angel, and will want to have a closer look! Rest the phone half-opened on the table like a super cute notebook PC to take a selfie, and I guarantee you that girls (and perhaps even guys) will go goo-goo-gaa-gaa over it.

In short, the Z Flip excites in ways that candy bar phones cannot, even those with top notch specs. Unfortunately, you pay for that privilege, and are exposed to the risks of adopting cutting edge technology. The Z Flip is not for everyone. I agree that they are probably sold-out because of limited stock. Which just makes the Flip even more exclusive and desirable ... lol. At the moment, Samsung appears to replenish stocks every few days.

And another good thing about the Z Flip is that you do not need to hear folks complain on and on about Exynos vs Snapdragon. All Z Flips use the Snapdragon 855+ processor, whether in Singapore or elsewhere

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Old 20-02-2020, 10:42 AM   #932
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Any idea when will the full reviews be out? Is it usually on the release date, i.e, 8th March?
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Old 20-02-2020, 11:15 AM   #933
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Any idea when will the full reviews be out? Is it usually on the release date, i.e, 8th March?
normally after phone out then will have reviews
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Old 20-02-2020, 11:28 AM   #934
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Were your observations based on your personal observations? Mine differ slightly from yours.

I believed why every android boot screen has the powered by android logo is because google was concerned about samsung=android.

And don't compare Vivo to HTC. The latter left our market in 2018 and is already dead in the smartphone space. Vivo is far more recognized here, especially in the ah beng phone shops.

Last time before the chinese oems muscled in LG and Sony (Ericsson) would still be options most consumers would consider;Nokia too. But nowadays they don't have mindshare anymore. Last phone LG sold here was V40.

I think that iOS vs Android marketshare here is going to be pretty steady here, like it does worldwide. Few are going to jump ship to the other side given the maturity of smartphones.

How many preorders are we gonna see for the s20? Ideally one should be patient and wait some months for a price drop,the present rrp is not good.
To people have done thier homework like us, we can differentiate Android and Samsung. To those that aren't into tech and just sign any handset plan, Samsung = Android. They don't do research or anything, but take the best-looking phone offered by Samsung. It also helps that Samsung was the successful pioneer among Android brands in Singapore that was fighting with Apple since the days of Froyo. While brands like Sony, HTC and LG were present in SG during the early era of Android, their advertising can't match Samsung.

So Samsung became the flag-bearer of Android and many people ignorant in tech would think Samsung is Android.

As for Vivo, I really wonder what is their niche. Their brother brands have specific niches. Oneplus is focused for Android enthusiasts, Oppo is for those who prefer camera at the expense of OS updates and Realme is essentially Oppo's budget subsidiary. If Vivo doesn't find their niche, they are unlikely going to survive in the years to come.

I would think that iOS may be dominant in the years to come for Singapore. Sometimes, I have to travel to poly and uni to work on projects and I notice many are using Macbooks nowadays. I suppose the rising affluence of the younger people and Apple's successful advertising of itself as a lifestyle is attractive to the younger generations. You always see many with Airpod Pros.

Agree with you that S20 is way not worth it to buy now unless you have some CIS discounts. Even then, for Exynos, it is not bang for bucks
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Old 20-02-2020, 11:30 AM   #935
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Also sony had a bad rep for cameras, quality and overheating issues.
The Z series and the early SE smartphones were less than satisfactory, but I think it is a bit better with the XZ series. Now with Sony Mobile merging with Sony itself, it will be interesting to see if they can finally coordinate properly.

Frankly, they are one of the cheaper options for near-stock Android excluding Mi A series
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Old 20-02-2020, 11:50 AM   #936
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Exynos chip no thanks
128GB for ultra no thanks also

while Samsung may or may not bring 256/512GB Ultra, I still think I will wait.
They like to chut many many stunt one.
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Old 20-02-2020, 12:08 PM   #937
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The Z series and the early SE smartphones were less than satisfactory, but I think it is a bit better with the XZ series. Now with Sony Mobile merging with Sony itself, it will be interesting to see if they can finally coordinate properly.

Frankly, they are one of the cheaper options for near-stock Android excluding Mi A series
What do you mean by cheaper? They didn't stock their midrangers since 2019, although I was able to buy JDM flagship Xperias for 100$ in some ah Beng shops recently
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To people have done thier homework like us, we can differentiate Android and Samsung. To those that aren't into tech and just sign any handset plan, Samsung = Android. They don't do research or anything, but take the best-looking phone offered by Samsung. It also helps that Samsung was the successful pioneer among Android brands in Singapore that was fighting with Apple since the days of Froyo. While brands like Sony, HTC and LG were present in SG during the early era of Android, their advertising can't match Samsung.

So Samsung became the flag-bearer of Android and many people ignorant in tech would think Samsung is Android.

As for Vivo, I really wonder what is their niche. Their brother brands have specific niches. Oneplus is focused for Android enthusiasts, Oppo is for those who prefer camera at the expense of OS updates and Realme is essentially Oppo's budget subsidiary. If Vivo doesn't find their niche, they are unlikely going to survive in the years to come.

I would think that iOS may be dominant in the years to come for Singapore. Sometimes, I have to travel to poly and uni to work on projects and I notice many are using Macbooks nowadays. I suppose the rising affluence of the younger people and Apple's successful advertising of itself as a lifestyle is attractive to the younger generations. You always see many with Airpod Pros.

Agree with you that S20 is way not worth it to buy now unless you have some CIS discounts. Even then, for Exynos, it is not bang for bucks
iOS is probably dominant over the youth category. I still think that given our aging demographics Android still dominates overall here.
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To people have done thier homework like us, we can differentiate Android and Samsung. To those that aren't into tech and just sign any handset plan, Samsung = Android. They don't do research or anything, but take the best-looking phone offered by Samsung. It also helps that Samsung was the successful pioneer among Android brands in Singapore that was fighting with Apple since the days of Froyo. While brands like Sony, HTC and LG were present in SG during the early era of Android, their advertising can't match Samsung.

So Samsung became the flag-bearer of Android and many people ignorant in tech would think Samsung is Android.

As for Vivo, I really wonder what is their niche. Their brother brands have specific niches. Oneplus is focused for Android enthusiasts, Oppo is for those who prefer camera at the expense of OS updates and Realme is essentially Oppo's budget subsidiary. If Vivo doesn't find their niche, they are unlikely going to survive in the years to come.

I would think that iOS may be dominant in the years to come for Singapore. Sometimes, I have to travel to poly and uni to work on projects and I notice many are using Macbooks nowadays. I suppose the rising affluence of the younger people and Apple's successful advertising of itself as a lifestyle is attractive to the younger generations. You always see many with Airpod Pros.

Agree with you that S20 is way not worth it to buy now unless you have some CIS discounts. Even then, for Exynos, it is not bang for bucks

vivo last time is for music.
now if purely music, they die... so they up everything i guess.
popup cam is they came out first.
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Exynos chip no thanks
128GB for ultra no thanks also

while Samsung may or may not bring 256/512GB Ultra, I still think I will wait.
They like to chut many many stunt one.
You can tahan meh? 😜😉 Last Aug, take "leave" to collect your note 10 plus. You have every model of Galaxy right, even the Note 7.
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Old 20-02-2020, 01:34 PM   #941
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You can tahan meh? ���� Last Aug, take "leave" to collect your note 10 plus. You have every model of Galaxy right, even the Note 7.
oh that one I took MC instead not leave
yes I have the Note7. I only don't have Note10, Flip and the S20 models.

Good things must wait.
Wait until S21 or S30 come out next year also song.
No need to rush.
i still thinking if should get S20 series or not
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To people have done thier homework like us, we can differentiate Android and Samsung. To those that aren't into tech and just sign any handset plan, Samsung = Android. They don't do research or anything, but take the best-looking phone offered by Samsung. It also helps that Samsung was the successful pioneer among Android brands in Singapore that was fighting with Apple since the days of Froyo. While brands like Sony, HTC and LG were present in SG during the early era of Android, their advertising can't match Samsung.

So Samsung became the flag-bearer of Android and many people ignorant in tech would think Samsung is Android.

As for Vivo, I really wonder what is their niche. Their brother brands have specific niches. Oneplus is focused for Android enthusiasts, Oppo is for those who prefer camera at the expense of OS updates and Realme is essentially Oppo's budget subsidiary. If Vivo doesn't find their niche, they are unlikely going to survive in the years to come.

I would think that iOS may be dominant in the years to come for Singapore. Sometimes, I have to travel to poly and uni to work on projects and I notice many are using Macbooks nowadays. I suppose the rising affluence of the younger people and Apple's successful advertising of itself as a lifestyle is attractive to the younger generations. You always see many with Airpod Pros.

Agree with you that S20 is way not worth it to buy now unless you have some CIS discounts. Even then, for Exynos, it is not bang for bucks
Ikr. I have a friend who recently asked me what phone to get for his recontract with singtel. Told him to get Pixel 3 XL because it is the best bang for buck right now(845 for $0 on ST Combo 2), but he asked me how is A70($148). Told him Pixel 3 XL is superior in terms of chipset and camera but he's like "meh, Samsung better. Never heard of Pixel before.". Didn't bother trying to persuade him after that

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Old 20-02-2020, 02:39 PM   #943
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What do you mean by cheaper? They didn't stock their midrangers since 2019, although I was able to buy JDM flagship Xperias for 100$ in some ah Beng shops recently

sorry typed wrongly, I meant value for money. The flagships tend to be cheaper than Pixel flagships, plus still can got SD slot to increase storage and the OS is close to stock.

but of course, sony's camera app can't fight with gcam. so it's a case of preferring more storage or better cam.

my opinion la. sure some will disagree
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Old 20-02-2020, 02:48 PM   #944
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iOS is probably dominant over the youth category. I still think that given our aging demographics Android still dominates overall here.
True also.

But even the young adults (30s-40s) also using Apple products nowadays, since its effective advertising as cool products have caught on.

Apple is smart enough to promote a 'cool' lifestyle while Android focuses on specs, to which the ordinary person on the street won't even bother.

Most who use Android are using it because of costs reasons, if Apple pushes something budget-friendly, they will jump ship. Only a minority like you and me are effectively Android by choice, not because we can't afford Apple products.
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Old 20-02-2020, 02:49 PM   #945
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Ikr. I have a friend who recently asked me what phone to get for his recontract with singtel. Told him to get Pixel 3 XL because it is the best bang for buck right now(845 for $0 on ST Combo 2), but he asked me how is A70($148). Told him Pixel 3 XL is superior in terms of chipset and camera but he's like "meh, Samsung better. Never heard of Pixel before.". Didn't bother trying to persuade him after that

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Exactly. The person on the street doesn't differentiate. To some, they even think Huawei, Xiaomi and Oppo are running a different OS and not Android. They buy based on looks or brand.
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