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Old 22-11-2012, 02:06 PM   #406
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i would consider if it wasn't atom. atom at this age is like ancient
depends on individual needs. Atom processing sucks big time BUT battery is simply amazing.
Those on the go would love the atom as they are required to 'work' on occasions whilst on the go and not do heavy duty work (like myself). The occasions when I need to work outside , yes it does suck but I have to leave with the lagging and hanging. I have a main PC at home to do my heavy duty work and all files synced by skydrive

If its going to be at home most of the time, then do not get the atom, you will vomit blood. Since battery is not a much concern (you only bring out once a while), then get the i5, i7 models --- but then again, why not just get a normal laptop at a cheaper price.
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Old 22-11-2012, 02:26 PM   #407
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depends on individual needs. Atom processing sucks big time BUT battery is simply amazing.
Those on the go would love the atom as they are required to 'work' on occasions whilst on the go and not do heavy duty work (like myself). The occasions when I need to work outside , yes it does suck but I have to leave with the lagging and hanging. I have a main PC at home to do my heavy duty work and all files synced by skydrive

If its going to be at home most of the time, then do not get the atom, you will vomit blood. Since battery is not a much concern (you only bring out once a while), then get the i5, i7 models --- but then again, why not just get a normal laptop at a cheaper price.
if work refer to MS Office, the RT version is sufficient and you don't even need atom for that.

the reason behind getting a iCore even though it is more expensive is that it is both a laptop (similar processing power to ultrabook) and tablet. and if you compare that to buying a laptop and tablet separately, the cost actually add up.
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Old 22-11-2012, 02:36 PM   #408
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if work refer to MS Office, the RT version is sufficient and you don't even need atom for that.

the reason behind getting a iCore even though it is more expensive is that it is both a laptop (similar processing power to ultrabook) and tablet. and if you compare that to buying a laptop and tablet separately, the cost actually add up.
The main reason for getting an iCore (Pro) should be that there are thousands of more applications that will run on it compared to the RT.
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Old 22-11-2012, 03:49 PM   #409
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if work refer to MS Office, the RT version is sufficient and you don't even need atom for that.

the reason behind getting a iCore even though it is more expensive is that it is both a laptop (similar processing power to ultrabook) and tablet. and if you compare that to buying a laptop and tablet separately, the cost actually add up.

my work refers to times when I need to suddenly debug some work on VS. if solely office, then a galaxy note 10.1 would be enough as RT with third party office apps
therefore, each individual should consider their own needs to determine what is most suitable for them
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Old 22-11-2012, 04:08 PM   #410
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my work refers to times when I need to suddenly debug some work on VS. if solely office, then a galaxy note 10.1 would be enough as RT with third party office apps
therefore, each individual should consider their own needs to determine what is most suitable for them
i had to agree, for developers like us, work mean VS.
everyone has different need.
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Old 22-11-2012, 07:04 PM   #411
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ops... but the price is still not bad... not sure about the performance though...

huge price diff between atom and i5
personally I will not go with atom man
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Old 22-11-2012, 10:36 PM   #412
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I actually meant the ipad is lacking flash while Surface has full support.
I already played with the whitelist...no biggie, if you can handle the text editor.. ;-)
Actually I had to add this *cough* website here to make videos embedded in the posts work
I wna try the whitelist thing, just follow the instructions given at XDA should be fine yea? any do you need to re-enter it whenever you reboot your surface or they will remember the updated whitelist?
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Old 23-11-2012, 06:27 AM   #413
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I wna try the whitelist thing, just follow the instructions given at XDA should be fine yea? any do you need to re-enter it whenever you reboot your surface or they will remember the updated whitelist?
If you follow the instructions, the first task is to disable auto-update of the whitelist.
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Old 26-11-2012, 11:05 AM   #414
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The new Clovertrail dual-core Atoms with Hyperthreading is very decent if you need it for entertainment & some work. Obviously if work is compiling in VS, then Atoms will leave you frustrated but for many people, including students, businessmen, housewife & retirees who don't need the power, Atom is much faster than Win RT on Tegra 3. Maybe Win RT on Qualcomm will be faster than Atom but I doubt it.

Atoms are usually used in larger tablets so it can accommodate a larger battery hence longer battery life. All things considered the Clovertrail Atom SoC uses around 10W TDP which is still more than ARM based CPU but I'd gladly use it because it also come bundled with a more powerful GPU compared to most ARM platforms.

Intel also recently bought the GPU/MPU division from Creative to bolster the Intel GMA Media & 3D capabilities.

For me, it's straight forward, Core i5 speed is addictive. I'd sacrifice battery for speed any day. Estimated 6 hours usage in Surface Pro is still very good!
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Old 26-11-2012, 12:53 PM   #415
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The new Clovertrail dual-core Atoms with Hyperthreading is very decent if you need it for entertainment & some work. Obviously if work is compiling in VS, then Atoms will leave you frustrated but for many people, including students, businessmen, housewife & retirees who don't need the power, Atom is much faster than Win RT on Tegra 3. Maybe Win RT on Qualcomm will be faster than Atom but I doubt it.

Atoms are usually used in larger tablets so it can accommodate a larger battery hence longer battery life. All things considered the Clovertrail Atom SoC uses around 10W TDP which is still more than ARM based CPU but I'd gladly use it because it also come bundled with a more powerful GPU compared to most ARM platforms.

Intel also recently bought the GPU/MPU division from Creative to bolster the Intel GMA Media & 3D capabilities.

For me, it's straight forward, Core i5 speed is addictive. I'd sacrifice battery for speed any day. Estimated 6 hours usage in Surface Pro is still very good!
student like me using VS 2010 for programming is a must to get i core processor. now waiting for surface pro to be out.
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Old 26-11-2012, 03:22 PM   #416
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Microsoft News | O2 teases Windows RT 3G dongle support

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Old 26-11-2012, 08:08 PM   #417
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Can't seem to find any posts on it, so... I know it's not out officially yet but are there any shops here selling imported sets and/or have demo sets available? More interested in Surface Pro but since it'll take forever I want to play around with RT first.
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Old 27-11-2012, 12:04 AM   #418
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The new Clovertrail dual-core Atoms with Hyperthreading is very decent if you need it for entertainment & some work. Obviously if work is compiling in VS, then Atoms will leave you frustrated but for many people, including students, businessmen, housewife & retirees who don't need the power, Atom is much faster than Win RT on Tegra 3. Maybe Win RT on Qualcomm will be faster than Atom but I doubt it.

Atoms are usually used in larger tablets so it can accommodate a larger battery hence longer battery life. All things considered the Clovertrail Atom SoC uses around 10W TDP which is still more than ARM based CPU but I'd gladly use it because it also come bundled with a more powerful GPU compared to most ARM platforms.

Intel also recently bought the GPU/MPU division from Creative to bolster the Intel GMA Media & 3D capabilities.

For me, it's straight forward, Core i5 speed is addictive. I'd sacrifice battery for speed any day. Estimated 6 hours usage in Surface Pro is still very good!
agree, speed is top priority for me. irony, i am still using C2D

Can't seem to find any posts on it, so... I know it's not out officially yet but are there any shops here selling imported sets and/or have demo sets available? More interested in Surface Pro but since it'll take forever I want to play around with RT first.
maybe SLS has them? hasn't been there for a long time.
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Old 27-11-2012, 12:11 AM   #419
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maybe SLS has them? hasn't been there for a long time.
Neither have I. Guess I'll check it out if I pass by the area.
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Old 27-11-2012, 09:10 AM   #420
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Microsoft to offer at least 4 years of support for surface. Good news for those who already bought or going to get it.

Microsoft to offer at least four years of support for the Surface
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