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Old 06-02-2013, 02:35 PM   #601
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Look like surface pro got alot of good review
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Old 06-02-2013, 04:37 PM   #602
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The battery life seemed not so good from some reviews I read. One of the main reason I got the surface rt was the battery life, haha.
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Old 06-02-2013, 06:46 PM   #603
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Looks like the embargo on the reviews is over.

So who will be the first to get it here?
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:28 AM   #604
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Conflicted now... Lenovo Thinkpad 2 or Surface Pro.

So far haven't read any reviewer switch to Power Saving mode which limits Core i5-3317 to 800Mhz which is make it act like the new 7w SDP Ivy Bridge. Wonder if it'll give 1 extra hour of battery. At 800Mhz, it's still crazy fast!
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:37 AM   #605
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will be totally sold if they lift the OS lock on Surface, same as other W8 laptop
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:14 AM   #606
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sg stores if i may ask?
Not launched officially. Not worth paying a premium for it at local stores.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:33 AM   #607
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will be totally sold if they lift the OS lock on Surface, same as other W8 laptop
According to an Q&A with Microsoft :

Q: On the Surface Pro, is the boot loader unlocked so I can load other operating systems?

A: "Like other Windows 8 machines, you can access BIOS settings and turn off secure boot, enabling you to load other OSes."


http://www.zdnet.com/why-did-microsoft-deliver-surface-rt-before-pro-and-other-pesky-questions-answered-7000010935/
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:55 PM   #608
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Conflicted now... Lenovo Thinkpad 2 or Surface Pro.

So far haven't read any reviewer switch to Power Saving mode which limits Core i5-3317 to 800Mhz which is make it act like the new 7w SDP Ivy Bridge. Wonder if it'll give 1 extra hour of battery. At 800Mhz, it's still crazy fast!
Conflicted? Really? These are two totally different machines
Thinkpad 2 is small, light, long battery life, but Atom only...biggest drawback for me personally: no great keybard solution like the surface to use it for productivity.
Surface Pro is a full Laptop with loads performance, good keyboard, but bigger, heavier, shorter battery life.

For me the SurfaceRT is the perfect middle ground. Light and allows productivity.
For heavy duty and x86 I still have my Samsung7 Slate...over 1.5 years old, but not much behind a surface pro. Only missing the nifty keyboard solution...
I would have thought the SurfacePro with the new IvyBridge can pull much more battery life than the 7Slate (4hrs on average) but apparently that's not the case.

So I guess the real winner will be the next generation Atom with real firepower. Currently you always have to compromise on something unless you have a perfect fit for your personal use-case.
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:26 PM   #609
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Conflicted? Really? These are two totally different machines
Thinkpad 2 is small, light, long battery life, but Atom only...biggest drawback for me personally: no great keybard solution like the surface to use it for productivity.
Surface Pro is a full Laptop with loads performance, good keyboard, but bigger, heavier, shorter battery life.

For me the SurfaceRT is the perfect middle ground. Light and allows productivity.
For heavy duty and x86 I still have my Samsung7 Slate...over 1.5 years old, but not much behind a surface pro. Only missing the nifty keyboard solution...
I would have thought the SurfacePro with the new IvyBridge can pull much more battery life than the 7Slate (4hrs on average) but apparently that's not the case.

So I guess the real winner will be the next generation Atom with real firepower. Currently you always have to compromise on something unless you have a perfect fit for your personal use-case.
I'd totally get a Surface Atom with active digitizing running W8.
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:24 PM   #610
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Well guys, WinRT is no-go for me.

Lenovo Thinkpad 2 is VERY light & thin but can't handle FHD video. It's got great battery life at 8-10hrs but CPU power is not powerful enough for Visual Studio. It'll run all my Enterprise software but with some lag due to Java. Thinkpad 2 has a nice kb as well & Lenovo keyboards are always nice. Mobility is very important to me.

Surface Pro is heavier with much poorer battery life of between 3-5 hours. It's a Core i5-3317 which is not changeable unlike my current Fujitsu tablet PC. It can run Visual Studio but I'm using it less now. Mobility is more important for me but I'm addicted to speed.

My perfect tablet will be the Surface Pro with Core i5/i3 Haswell. Preferbly i3 which is still at least 2-3x Atom CPU power but with a TDP of 5-7w. That way the battery life can at least hit 5-7 hours assuming MS use the same H77 chipset. Hopefully, they'll use a more power-efficient chipset to stretch it a little bit more. Core i3 also need less cooling so the fan can be slower & use less battery as well.

Maybe I should just wait another year & hope my 5yo Fujitsu don't die on me.
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:07 PM   #611
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Pro version available on MS US website liao, who gg to get it first here? hehe. Very tempted potential customer here. Saw a local website posted on this thread sometime back that also offer the RT and pro version (when available). More worth to get from that website than from the US online website?
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:18 PM   #612
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I also want a Pro with Type Cover. 64GB or 128GB doesn't matter. Who's getting?
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Old 09-02-2013, 07:07 PM   #613
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I also want a Pro with Type Cover. 64GB or 128GB doesn't matter. Who's getting?
128gb sold out alr. 64gb is too small alr, left like about less than half after system installation of OS and programs
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Old 09-02-2013, 09:21 PM   #614
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Ordered 128GB Pro, confirmed. Its on the way
cost me around 1100 SGD.

great with my Surface RT..
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Old 09-02-2013, 09:59 PM   #615
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Only 1100sgd? The ms pro cost usd999, more than 1.1k SGD, how u get it? Sic leh hehe
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