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Old 24-03-2019, 11:01 PM   #1411
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Hi xiaofan, how's the MXQ Pro H96 Max 4/64GB with the RK3328? I can't seem to find if it supports any form of cast from cellphone, thanks.
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Old 24-03-2019, 11:53 PM   #1412
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Hi xiaofan, how's the MXQ Pro H96 Max 4/64GB with the RK3328? I can't seem to find if it supports any form of cast from cellphone, thanks.
Not so sure what is the "MXQ Pro" comes from. H96 Max is a generic brand.

Usually generic boxes like this will come with Miracast for you to mirror the screen of your Android phone. Some of them may come with Airpin Pro as well for Apple Airplay.

Then you can install apps like Happycast 乐播投屏 to casting function from PC/Mac/Android phone.

Ref:
http://www.hpplay.com.cn/

Its focus is with the Chinese apps so it may not be suitable for use with apps like Toggle, Starhub Go, SingTel TV Go or SingTel Cast.

All in all, for casting, Chromecast dongle is still the best and then Mi Box S which has the Chromecast function built-in. Starhub Go Streaming box also has Chromecast function built-in.

I have Google Chromecast 1st gen dongle which still works fine. I bought it from SingTel shop at S$35 a few years back.

BTW, you can install SingTel TV Go and SingTel Cast on Mi Box S and Nvidia Shield TV. They will not work on rooted box. Most generic boxes running mobile version of Android are rooted.

Starhub Go and Toggle can not be installed on Mi Box S or Nvidia Shield TV but they support Chromecast. They may or may not work on generic rooted box. And the user experiences are not good even if they can be installed on TV boxes.
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Old 25-03-2019, 12:04 AM   #1413
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Hi xiaofan, how's the MXQ Pro H96 Max 4/64GB with the RK3328? I can't seem to find if it supports any form of cast from cellphone, thanks.
As for the box, common name is H96 Max Plus which comes with RK3328 CPU, USB 3.0 plus USB 2.0, dual band wifi and 100 Mbps Ethernet.

I have one such box and it is fine for streaming. My one comes with Android 7.1 but new one may come with Android 8.1. In my experiences it is not as good as my other H96 box, H96 Pro Plus Amlogic S912 3GB/32GB box which has gigabit Ethernet and faster CPU and faster WiFi. Price should be similar. The only thing better for the H96 Max Plus is the support of USB 3.0.

Within the H96 Series, H96 Max RK3399 is the performance king but expensive. H96 Max X2 S905X2 based may be the best now compared to H96 Max Plus and H96 Pro Plus. It kind of combines the best of the two.

BTW 4GB/32GB will be more than enough for TV boxes if you want to buy H96 Max Plus or H96 Max X2.
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Old 25-03-2019, 08:21 AM   #1414
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Just a list of popular current generic boxes

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Amlogic CPU
1. S905X2 CPU
Beelink GT1 Mini
Tanix TX5 Max
Mecool KM9
H96 Max X2
X96 Max
T95Q
A95X Max

S905Y2 variant
X96S TV stick
A95X Plus S905Y2

2. S912
Minix NEO U9-H
Beelink GT1-A Android TV OS
Berlin GT1 Ultimate
Tanix TX92
Tanix TX9 Pro
Mecool M8S Pro L Android TV OS
H96 Pro Plus

Magicsee C400 Hybrid box with DVB-T2 Tuner
Mecool Kiii Pro Hybrid box with DVB-T2 Tuner

3. S905X, same CPU as Mi Box S.
Mecool KM8 Android TV OS
Magicsee N5
Evpad Plus

S905D variant
Magicsee C300 hybrid box with DVB-T2 Tuner
Mecool Kii Pro hybrid box with DVB-T2 Tuner
Mecool Ki Plus hybrid box with DVB-T2 Tuner

S905L
Used in China version of Mi Box 4 and 4C, lacks VP9 codec of S905X. Used in many IPTV/OTT boxes from China Telecom, China Unicom and China Mobile. Avoid these boxes.

4. S905W
Tanix TX3 Max
Tanix TX3 Mini
Mecool M8S Pro W Android TV OS
X96 Mini
Generic MXQ Pro S905W version (got RK3229 version as well)

Rockchip CPU
1. RK3399, not recommended, expensive
Magicsee N6 Max
H96 Max RK3399
X99

2. RK3328, avoid Android 9 version now.

Tanix TX28, likely an OEM version, not supported by Tanix website, not recommended

H96 Max Plus
A5X Max
MXR Pro RK3328
MX10
Sunvell T9
Z28

3. RK3229, not recommended, buy S905W based Box better

Tania TX2
Scision V88
Sunvell R69 RK3229 (got H3 version as well), I have this box, usable but not good.
Generic MXQ Pro RK3229 ( got S905W version as well)


Allwinner
1.H6, not recommended
Tanix TX6: not recommended because Android 9 is not mature. Also got Thermal issues.

Zidoo X6, expensive
Eachlink H6 Mini
Sunvell T95 Max

Ubox Gen 5/6 (only 1GB RAM)
Evpad 3,3S,3Max (2GB RAM)

2. H5, seldom used in TV box

3. H3, old box only. Avoid them.
Sunvell R69 H3 is the only recent box.
Old Ubox Gen 2, Gen 3 and Gen 4.
EVpad old version as well.
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Old 25-03-2019, 06:15 PM   #1415
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Hi Xiaofan, there are some comments out there that says that Amlogic is the best supported chipset. Rockchip and Allwinner are to be avoided.

From your experience, is that true?
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Old 25-03-2019, 06:41 PM   #1416
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For local content or NAS content, many boxes are okay, Kodi is one such player for PC, Android phone and Android TV boxes.

S905X2 based box like Tanix TX5 Max or Beelink GT1 Mini will be a good one for this purpose because of the support of USB 3.0 and Gigabit Ethernet, 4k is not a problem.

Older Minix NEO U9-H is famous Kodi box but its price is on the high side.

Plex is another one.

I do not use Kodi or Plex myself so you may get better help from others. I only use apps to streaming from internet, not downloading anything.

https://kodi.tv/
https://www.plex.tv/
Can I use VLC and chromecast on my TV from my phone or PC?

Not sure if that works?
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Old 25-03-2019, 06:48 PM   #1417
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Hi Xiaofan, there are some comments out there that says that Amlogic is the best supported chipset. Rockchip and Allwinner are to be avoided.

From your experience, is that true?
Yes that is true in terms of Android OS support for streaming purpose.

Amlogic for TV boxes are still the best in this aspect. Even the latest Android TV OS streaming development kit from Google (ADT-2) uses S905X.

https://sites.google.com/view/droid-...g/google-adt-2

Mi Box S and Mi Box Global version use S905X CPU as well.

The new S905X2 CPU is pretty good as well, good thermal performance. My experience with the Tanix TX5 Max box is pretty positive.

S912 box will be not that recommended now because of the new S905X2 box is better in terms of overall features improvement and better thermal. Performance is comparable between the two. Still my experiences with H96 Pro Plus S912 box is positive.

That being said my experiences with RK3328 based H96 Max Plus is pretty okay. My experiences with RK3229 based R69 box is pretty negative but that is meant for very low end. RK3399 boxes are simply too expensive to be worth the money.

Avoid Allwinner in general unless you like Ubox and EVpad. H6 is not too bad but the boxes are limited. The Tanix TX6 I have is not good because of thermal issues.
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Old 25-03-2019, 07:02 PM   #1418
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Can I use VLC and chromecast on my TV from my phone or PC?

Not sure if that works?
I have not tried VLC myself but it is supposed to work with Chromecast.

https://9to5google.com/2018/02/10/ho...ndroid-basics/

You can try it to see if it is stable or not.
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Old 26-03-2019, 01:12 AM   #1419
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Hi xiaofan, i saw in lazada. The Beelink GT1 got 2 models: 2Gb Ram, 32Gb storage or 4Gb Ram, 64Gb storage.
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Old 26-03-2019, 05:09 AM   #1420
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BTW, you can install SingTel TV Go and SingTel Cast on Mi Box S and Nvidia Shield TV. They will not work on rooted box. Most generic boxes running mobile version of Android are rooted.

Starhub Go and Toggle can not be installed on Mi Box S or Nvidia Shield TV but they support Chromecast. They may or may not work on generic rooted box. And the user experiences are not good even if they can be installed on TV boxes.
Hi, so Singtel TV Go and Singtel Cast can work on any Android box (both TV and mobile OS) provided it is not rooted? Not very familiar now but I thought there are ways to hide root from apps?

Any reason why Starhub TV Go and Toggle cannot work on Mi Box S and Nvidia Shield? Is it because it cannot work on Android TV OS and only work on Android mobile OS?

Btw, any idea if Starhub TV Go works on non-Starhub connection and support EPL cross-carriage from Singtel?
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Old 26-03-2019, 06:43 AM   #1421
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Hi, so Singtel TV Go and Singtel Cast can work on any Android box (both TV and mobile OS) provided it is not rooted? Not very familiar now but I thought there are ways to hide root from apps?

Any reason why Starhub TV Go and Toggle cannot work on Mi Box S and Nvidia Shield? Is it because it cannot work on Android TV OS and only work on Android mobile OS?

Btw, any idea if Starhub TV Go works on non-Starhub connection and support EPL cross-carriage from Singtel?
SingTel TV Go and SingTel Cast can be installed on Mi Box S and Nvidia Shield TV, not sure if they work on non-rooted box. They have some types of protection.

The generic Android boxes I have all come rooted and there are no ways to hide the root. So I do not have experiences with non-rooted box or rooted box which can hide the root. In fact if you install those root manager apps, the boxes I have will brick and you have to reflash the firmware.

As for Starhub Go and Toggle, again they are designed for mobile phone and have some types of detection mechanism to prevent them from running on Android TV OS. They are not that strict on mobile Android OS based rooted box based on my experiences but YMMV. For example, reports show that some boxes are not able to run Toggle. The detection mechanism may get more strict. This may have to do with the licensing of the content.

All in all these 4 apps are designed for mobile phones and all have copyright protection mechanism which may prevent them to work on TV boxes, the best method to get them on TV is still using Chromecast.

TVB Anywhere SG is very strict in enforcing the mobile only policy and it does not support casting or external display.

As for Starhub Go packs, you can check out the website, looks like no EPL. SingTel Cast has EPL.

http://www.starhub.com/personal/supp...-go/about.html
https://www.singtel.com/personal/pro...-services/cast
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Hi, so Singtel TV Go and Singtel Cast can work on any Android box (both TV and mobile OS) provided it is not rooted?
The generic Android boxes I have all come rooted and there are no ways to hide the root. So I do not have experiences with non-rooted box or rooted box which can hide the root. In fact if you install those root manager apps, the boxes I have will brick and you have to reflash the firmware.

That being said there are some Android TV boxes which are not rooted.

Mecool KM8 is one such box which claims to be Google Certified. It runs Android TV OS and does support Chromecast but not Netflix. I do not quite trust this one so I do not normally mention it. From various website it seems to me it is true that this box may have gone through some types of Google certification and has the Google Widevine L1 DRM for YouTube 4K but the firmware is buggy and it is not the same as Mi Box S which is fully certified by Google and Netflix.

https://hometheatrelife.com/mecool-km8-review/

Mecool KM9 uses latest S905X2 and runs unofficial Android TV OS which does not support Chromecast.

https://hometheatrelife.com/mecool-km9-review/

Both are running Android TV OS and not rooted. So you can not install Starhub TV Go and Toggle. But you might be able to install SingTel TV Go and SingTel Cast. YMMV.

Mecool has another two popular Android TV OS device, M8S Pro L S912 based mid-end box and M8S Pro W S905W based low end box. I believe both are rooted and both do not support Chromecast.

There are reports that M8S Pro L may run Netflix up to 1080p but there are also reports that it does not work. I think it is better just to consider Netflix HD as not working on this types of non-Netflix-Certified device as Netflix is actively enforcing copyright protection against VPN and non-certified device.

https://hometheatrelife.com/mecool-m8s-pro-l-review/
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Old 26-03-2019, 12:38 PM   #1423
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Hi xiaofan, i saw in lazada. The Beelink GT1 got 2 models: 2Gb Ram, 32Gb storage or 4Gb Ram, 64Gb storage.
I think there are three configurations, 2GB/32GB, 4GB/32GB and 4GB/64GB.

32GB storage are more than enough for TV boxes, in fact 16GB should be enough for most people.

For RAM 2GB is the minimum requirement for new purchase. 4GB is good to have. So I will go for the 4GB/32GB configuration myself.

FYI I just got two Tanix boxes from Taobao, hand itchy again...

Tanix TX5 Max S905X2 box is pretty good, Android 8.1, 4GB RAM, 32GB Storage, Gigabit Ethernet, fast dual band Wifi. Performance is very good, very fast and very smooth even compared to my previous best box the S912 3GB/32GB based H96 Pro Plus which has also Gigabit Ethernet and dual band wifi but lacks USB 3.0.

Tanix Alice UI is nothing special but I think Tanix does put some efforts to optimize the performance whereas unknown box vendors do not.

The other box is Tanix TX6 with Allwinner H6 CPU running Android 9, the first of the TV boxes running Android 9 for Allwinner CPUs. Android 9 is not recommended as of now since there are quite a bit of app compatibility issues, just for a quick test I already found two apps not working well including one of my favorite app for Chinese live TV -- CJZB 超级直播 where the built-in channels are not working. Moreover I have encountered thermal issues with it as well. Not recommended.

Beelink support is hopefully better than Tanix as it is more known vendor. Still it is a tough fight between Beelink GT1 Mini and Tanix TX5 Max. I usually go for cheaper one myself... And I like the external Antenna in Tanix TX5 Max.

Tanix Facebook does have quite some negative comments on firmware upgrade support or older box. But that is pretty common for low cost boxes. Not so sure how good Beelink is in this aspect.
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I think there are three configurations, 2GB/32GB, 4GB/32GB and 4GB/64GB.

32GB storage are more than enough for TV boxes, in fact 16GB should be enough for most people.

For RAM 2GB is the minimum requirement for new purchase. 4GB is good to have. So I will go for the 4GB/32GB configuration myself.

FYI I just got two Tanix boxes from Taobao, hand itchy again...

Tanix TX5 Max S905X2 box is pretty good, Android 8.1, 4GB RAM, 32GB Storage, Gigabit Ethernet, fast dual band Wifi. Performance is very good, very fast and very smooth even compared to my previous best box the S912 3GB/32GB based H96 Pro Plus which has also Gigabit Ethernet and dual band wifi but lacks USB 3.0.

Tanix Alice UI is nothing special but I think Tanix does put some efforts to optimize the performance whereas unknown box vendors do not.

The other box is Tanix TX6 with Allwinner H6 CPU running Android 9, the first of the TV boxes running Android 9 for Allwinner CPUs. Android 9 is not recommended as of now since there are quite a bit of app compatibility issues, just for a quick test I already found two apps not working well including one of my favorite app for Chinese live TV -- CJZB 超级直播 where the built-in channels are not working.

Beelink support is hopefully better than Tanix as it is more known vendor. Still it is a tough fight between Beelink GT1 Mini and Tanix TX5 Max. I usually go for cheaper one myself... And I like the external Antenna in Tanix TX5 Max.

Tanix Facebook does have quite some negative comments on firmware upgrade support or older box. But that is pretty common for low cost boxes. Not so sure how good Beelink is in this aspect.
Thanks. Earlier i ordered Beeling GT1 Mini 4Gb/ 32GB box from lazada. Hope its good
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Old 26-03-2019, 02:53 PM   #1425
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Thanks. Earlier i ordered Beeling GT1 Mini 4Gb/ 32GB box from lazada. Hope its good
Haha good choice for the 4GB/32GB configuration.

https://hometheatrelife.com/beelink-gt1-mini-review/

I actually like the more stylish remote and "old style" interface of Beelink GT1 Mini than the Tanix TX5's generic remote and "more modern" Alice UI.

If one does not need either Chromecast (for apps like Starhub Go or Toggle or Viu Premium) or Netflix HD/4k, then these new generation of S905X2 boxes running Android 8.1 should be pretty good choices, they will run apps like Kodi very well. I will recommend the 4G RAM version.

Among them so far three boxes look good to me, Beelink GT1 Mini, Tanix TX5 Max and to a lesser extent Mecool KM9. Of course the other generic boxes may be a bit cheaper(H96 Max X2, T95Q, X96 Max, etc), but I think I am impressed by the Tanix TX5 Max after 4 generic boxes.
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