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Old 21-01-2019, 07:59 AM   #1096
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Yes since the law will ban the sales of preloaded boxes. They will have to sell bare boxes and then they will not be able to compete with online shops selling bare boxes. In the end the number of physical shops selling Android TV boxes will go down a lot if not completely disappeared.
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Old 21-01-2019, 01:51 PM   #1097
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Hi

Can any experts here recommend any generic box that can run

toggle
starhub go
Mi box. It's not a genetic TV box but one that is lisenced by Google and run the official AndroidTV os.
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Old 21-01-2019, 01:53 PM   #1098
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I think is safe to say if you buy a random android box from a shop or store you better know how to sideload apps at the minimum. If that sounds too complex to you just get a official TV box like the mibox and install from the built-in curated for TV app store.
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Old 21-01-2019, 06:08 PM   #1099
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I think is safe to say if you buy a random android box from a shop or store you better know how to sideload apps at the minimum. If that sounds too complex to you just get a official TV box like the mibox and install from the built-in curated for TV app store.
Please check if the said Toggle and Starhub Go apps are available from the curated Android TV version of Google Play Store first.

In fact it is reported that Starhub Go is not compatible with official Android TV OS like Mi.Box S and Nvidia Shield TV.

Solution: use you phone and then cast to Mi Box S or Nvidia Shield TV.

Another notorious app is TVB Anywhere SG which is also not compatible with official Android TV OS device. And it does not support ChromeCast.

Solution for TVB Anywhere SG: use an unrooted generic Android TV boxes running mobile version of Android. Or just stick to using a phone or tablet.

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Old 21-01-2019, 06:19 PM   #1100
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Interesting. Maybe time to get one soon
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Old 21-01-2019, 07:57 PM   #1101
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Is it possible to side load apps onto Mibox S?

Any recommendation on how to watch live EPL on mibox s?
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Old 21-01-2019, 08:45 PM   #1102
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Is it possible to side load apps onto Mibox S?

Any recommendation on how to watch live EPL on mibox s?
Yes you are able to sideload apps on Mi.Box S.

As for EPL, the legitimate way is to subscribe to SingTel TV or Starhub TV.

Singtel Cast price plan for references.
https://blog.moneysmart.sg/entertain...-singtel-cast/

Another way is to pay for VPN. The following Straits Times report was from 2013 but it is still useful now in 2019.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...e-from-us-site

(We know in the end Starhub is able to cross carry EPL with SingTel).

Using VPN is still considered as gray but it is said this has not been tested in court.

One example from top VPN vendor's guide of streaming sports.

https://www.expressvpn.com/stream-sports/

https://www.expressvpn.com/stream-sp...otball-online/

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Old 22-01-2019, 06:12 PM   #1103
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As for EPL, the legitimate way is to subscribe to SingTel TV or Starhub TV.

Singtel Cast price plan for references.
https://blog.moneysmart.sg/entertain...-singtel-cast/

Another way is to pay for VPN.
Rights holder in action.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...8452?cid=FBcna
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Old 22-01-2019, 06:19 PM   #1104
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Better do not watch la.
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Old 22-01-2019, 06:48 PM   #1105
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Better do not watch la.
I do not watch soccer at all. But EPL is one of the top reasons why "young middle class male Singaporeans" mentioned in the article still pay SingTel or buy those fully loaded boxes which claim simi also can play one.😀
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Old 22-01-2019, 08:45 PM   #1106
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I do not watch soccer at all. But EPL is one of the top reasons why "young middle class male Singaporeans" mentioned in the article still pay SingTel or buy those fully loaded boxes which claim simi also can play one.😀
Better do not play play as lawyer already give warning.
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Old 22-01-2019, 09:29 PM   #1107
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Better do not play play as lawyer already give warning.
That is indeed true.

The rights holder will use country like Australia and Singapore as the first targets because of the high per capita GDP and the more mature IP protection laws.
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Old 23-01-2019, 01:14 PM   #1108
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There is no way for the government or any other intellectual property holder for the matter to know who is using those pirate apps.

The only way is to stop the sale of those boxes that come preinstalled with said apps.

Those "warning" from lawyers claiming that they know who download copyrighted material illegally via IP got shutdown by the state courts claiming that IP address isn't good enough evidence


https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...ie-piracy-case



Even the lawyers who made the threat got punished

https://www.todayonline.com/singapor...medium=twitter

So it's basically the same as other "copyright respecting countries"

The government at most can only block piracy websites and ban physical sales of copyrighted material. This will prevent most people from obtaining said material.

However there will be a bunch of tech savvy people that know how to circumvent those blocks and there is nothing the government legally can do to stop them.
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Old 23-01-2019, 01:58 PM   #1109
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The government at most can only block piracy websites and ban physical sales of copyrighted material. This will prevent most people from obtaining said material.

However there will be a bunch of tech savvy people that know how to circumvent those blocks and there is nothing the government legally can do to stop them.
It is already mentioned in the government file that the proposed laws are targeting sellers of the boxes and not consumers and the previous court order is for ISO to block IPTV apps.

As for ways to circumvent the blocks I think that is also covered by the law and that was probably why the government was asking inputs for VPN in 2016.

But you guys using torrent download instead of streaming needs to be careful. If the rights holder get a warant to search your house and got your HDD containing the downloaded content then you will be in trouble.
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Old 23-01-2019, 02:20 PM   #1110
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All the expensive TV ISP mostly government own.
So how not to take action when a $100 android tv box with the right apps can give so much more entertainment to a family.


It is already mentioned in the government file that the proposed laws are targeting sellers of the boxes and not consumers and the previous court order is for ISO to block IPTV apps.

As for ways to circumvent the blocks I think that is also covered by the law and that was probably why the government was asking inputs for VPN in 2016.

But you guys using torrent download instead of streaming needs to be careful. If the rights holder get a warant to search your house and got your HDD containing the downloaded content then you will be in trouble.
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