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Old 23-01-2019, 02:56 PM   #1111
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All the expensive TV ISP mostly government own.
So how not to take action when a $100 android tv box with the right apps can give so much more entertainment to a family.
not so expensive, $40-$50 android TV box with the right apps is good enough. you can get a box with S905 chip, 2G RAM, 8/16GB NAND with a reasonably good brand.

The government is not targeting the users, in fact starhub and M1 are selling andriod TV box to their subscribers.

The government is only targeting at the sellers who bundled unauthorized app.
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Old 23-01-2019, 10:30 PM   #1112
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The government is not targeting the users, in fact starhub and M1 are selling andriod TV box to their subscribers.

The government is only targeting at the sellers who bundled unauthorized app.
StarHub Go Streaming Box is running an operator version of Android TV OS.

Is M1 still selling a TV box? Nothing from their website now. The old Mibox page is now not available.

https://www.m1.com.sg/mobilesite/mibox

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Old 23-01-2019, 11:02 PM   #1113
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Hi

does anyone know of shops that help to install the apps like cartoon hd into your ac ryan box?

i have an older set which the shop helped me to install. but the newer one which i have doesn't have. hmm just wondering how do i go about doing that.

anyone can advise?
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Old 24-01-2019, 12:59 AM   #1114
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StarHub Go Streaming Box is running an operator version of Android TV OS.

Is M1 still selling a TV box? Nothing from their website now. The old Mibox page is now not available.
check under the broadband addon page, m1 is selling grossly overpriced ac ryan box at $120.

imo, it is a wrong choice. mibox s at $60 should attract more customers.
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Old 24-01-2019, 08:22 AM   #1115
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check under the broadband addon page, m1 is selling grossly overpriced ac ryan box at $120.

imo, it is a wrong choice. mibox s at $60 should attract more customers.
I see. It is S$5 for 24 months.
https://www.m1.com.sg/personal/bundl...hts/fibretopup

I agree. Mi Box S sells at around S$70-80 in the online marketplace, if M1 sells it at S$60 or even S$70 with one year warranty, there will be probably quite some takers.
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Old 25-01-2019, 01:49 PM   #1116
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Anyone even needing to ask what box to get should just get a mibox and call it a day.
If you are pro you will know what u want without asking.
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Old 26-01-2019, 09:38 AM   #1117
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Install and use original apps like YouTube, Yahoo Mail, Dropbox & WhatsApp etc. is not an issue.

Even if you don't update, still working well. The problems are usually arising from apps that are shady, and download illegal contents. If you use original stuff like Netflix, don't think would give users any trouble.

So, always use a reputable antivirus app, and established apps which doesn't infringe other's intellectual property.
Which anti virus to use?
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Old 26-01-2019, 09:41 AM   #1118
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check under the broadband addon page, m1 is selling grossly overpriced ac ryan box at $120.

imo, it is a wrong choice. mibox s at $60 should attract more customers.
Starhub even more expensive and at $299 also got people like me buy it.
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Old 27-01-2019, 10:44 AM   #1119
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For reference on US paid live TV service

https://www.cnet.com/news/directv-no...ource=facebook

US Cord Cutter guides
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/cord-cu...ews-17928.html


UK Cord Cutter guides
https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/how-to...able-uk-guide/

Singapore has less choices but on the other hand SingTel TV and Starhub basic package are not too costly if compared to US and UK.

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Old 27-01-2019, 06:44 PM   #1120
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For reference on US paid live TV service

https://www.cnet.com/news/directv-no...ource=facebook

US Cord Cutter guides
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/cord-cu...ews-17928.html


UK Cord Cutter guides
https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/how-to...able-uk-guide/

Singapore has less choices but on the other hand SingTel TV and Starhub basic package are not too costly if compared to US and UK.
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Old 28-01-2019, 08:40 AM   #1121
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https://www.8world.com/lifestyle/tec...=8worldnews-fb

In the above CH8 report in Chinese, the lawyer is saying that streaming is not considered illegal in the current law in Singapore.

She raised two points for the challenges of the new proposed law, one is which box to ban since Starhub itself is selling an Android TV box, second thing is streaming which is still legal here and there are legitimate streaming service like YouTube.

为防止零售商和服务供应商,从中牟利并保护知识产权,律政部将修改版权法令,禁止进口和贩卖涉及侵犯版权的机顶盒。我们就请来了律师谢明丽,和我们讲解相关法律。立法新措施最大挑战在哪里?

“挑战有两个,第一个挑战就是怎么知道哪一个机顶盒是非法的。一个例子就是星和也有一个机顶盒,所以这个是第一个挑战,第二个挑战就是很多观众上网看这些盗版内容是用串流在看。目前串流在法律上不是违法的,现在如果在法律上违法的行为,是下载或者复制,串流没有在里面。政府也不可能把所有的串流活动当成违法行为,因为我们时常上网看YouTube,那个也是用串流来看。”

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Old 28-01-2019, 10:39 AM   #1122
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https://www.8world.com/lifestyle/tec...=8worldnews-fb

In the above CH8 report in Chinese, the lawyer is saying that streaming is not considered illegal in the current law in Singapore.

She raised two points for the challenges of the new proposed law, one is which box to ban since Starhub itself is selling an Android TV box, second thing is streaming which is still legal here and there are legitimate streaming service like YouTube.

为防止零售商和服务供应商,从中牟利并保护知识产权,律政部将修改版权法令,禁止进口和贩卖涉及侵犯版权的机顶盒。我们就请来了律师谢明丽,和我们讲解相关法律。立法新措施最大挑战在哪里?

“挑战有两个,第一个挑战就是怎么知道哪一个机顶盒是非法的。一个例子就是星和也有一个机顶盒,所以这个是第一个挑战,第二个挑战就是很多观众上网看这些盗版内容是用串流在看。目前串流在法律上不是违法的,现在如果在法律上违法的行为,是下载或者复制,串流没有在里面。政府也不可能把所有的串流活动当成违法行为,因为我们时常上网看YouTube,那个也是用串流来看。”
One lawyer does not make the law.

The law is what the government says it is. Just like the ban on chewing gum.

The new law is being drafted. There is always an 'out' in the law like 'except as so exempted by the government'.

That should take care of YouTube and the SG licensed ISP.

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Old 28-01-2019, 10:59 AM   #1123
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One lawyer does not make the law.

The law is what the government says it is. Just like the ban on chewing gum.

The new law is being drafted. There is always an 'out' in the law like 'except as so exempted by the government'.

That should take care of YouTube and the SG licensed ISP.
No need to speculate now. Just wait loh.

You do not trust one lawyer but unless you are a lawyer what she says will carry more credibility than you.

In any case, the government file is already clear that it is targeting the seller and not the consumers.
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Old 28-01-2019, 11:07 AM   #1124
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One lawyer does not make the law.

The law is what the government says it is. Just like the ban on chewing gum.

The new law is being drafted. There is always an 'out' in the law like 'except as so exempted by the government'.

That should take care of YouTube and the SG licensed ISP.
The lawyer is commenting based on the proposed amendment.

Read it yourself if you are interested in this topic, then you will be able to give better comments, instead getting something off the air.

https://www.mlaw.gov.sg/content/dam/...Jan%202019.pdf
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Old 28-01-2019, 11:21 AM   #1125
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The lawyer is commenting based on the proposed amendment.

Read it yourself if you are interested in this topic, then you will be able to give better comments, instead getting something off the air.

https://www.mlaw.gov.sg/content/dam/...Jan%202019.pdf
This is just a report and not the proposed amendment or even the draft new law.
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