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grantt 18-01-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by darknezz (Post 43332929)
Its difficult to compare since there are different fabrics for different price ranges and I cant tell the dif between 800THB and 1200THB fabrics.

I did a jacket, shirt, pants at Armani back in 2006. I have been wearing the shirt at least twice a month between 2008 to 2009. I have put on weight since 2006, therefore I no longer wear that pants. All the clothes are still in good condition.

overall, i would say Armani is worth a visit simply because it starts at a lower price range. For pants, its almost half the price compared to Pinky/ Crown.

As for workmanship, I feel that they are the same. I believe all 3 of them are just shop fronts and they outsource the sewing to someone. Also workmanship, you can give them comments when you are doing the first fitting.

I've never used Pinky or Armani, however, have used Crown on multiple occassions and I'm very pleased and what I'm certain of is you get what you pay for. For one, I don't think you can get a (cashmere?) pant for 1200 Baht! hahaah. That being said, it's always nice to have a variety of places to visit as well! I'm sure you'll be able to find one of the three shops to suit you! Everyone is different and have different choices & opinions! Have fun!

Kraitz 18-01-2010 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by darknezz (Post 43292585)
after reading all the postings on this forum, I tried Pinky and Crown tailors while I was in BKK and came backrecently. Basically, the service standard, quality of shirts/ pants etc were as what other members had described in earlier posts.

However I am not sure if the business for these 2 tailors were already highly boosted by good reviews, somehow I find their prices slightly higher than my previous tailor. I had done two pairs of Cashmere Micro?sumthin? pants at 800THB in 2006. The prices for pants at both Pinky and Crown starts at 1500++ (b4 bargining)

Feeling in doubt, I went back to my previous tailor (Armani) and made 2 pair of pants at 1000THB and 800THB respectively. The 1000THB one was the Cashmere ??? fabric. The shop also offered shirts fabrics starting from 800THB (compared to Pinky and Crown which starts from 1000THB)

Overall, my lesson learnt is next time I will visit Armani Tailor 1st before visiting others. The fabric selection is limited but at least they start at a lower price and some of the fabric looks similiar to those at Pinky/ Crown. Best of all, it is just across the road from Crown.

I made 3 shirts each from Pinky and Crown and 2 pants from Armani. I am statisfied with all of them. :)

MD's Armani Fashion (BTS E3 Nana)
Sukhumvit Soi 7 shop no 5 in Arcade
(behind Versace which is along the main road, turn right into the Arcade when you see a purple $$ changer)

Crown Tailor (BTS E3 Nana)
Sukhumvit Soi 8, shop no 13
On the left side of Soi 8, should not miss it

Pinky (BTS E2 Phloen Chit)
Follow instructions on Pinky's Website


Happy shopping everyone :s13:

Does the 3 tailor mention above tailor make ladies shirts and pants too?

darknezz 18-01-2010 10:02 PM

[quote=grantt;43341914] For one, I don't think you can get a (cashmere?) pant for 1200 Baht! hahaah. That being said..... [quote]

Its up to you if you want to believe my purchase, but I am very certain that the fabric I choose for my pants (1000 THB) is Cashmere as it is labeled on the fabric.


Appreciate if you can keep your sarcastic comments to yourself.
Thank you !!!

darknezz 18-01-2010 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kraitz (Post 43347811)
Does the 3 tailor mention above tailor make ladies shirts and pants too?

I know Pinky does. Not sure about the rest.

grantt 19-01-2010 01:17 AM

[QUOTE=darknezz;43357242][quote=grantt;43341914] For one, I don't think you can get a (cashmere?) pant for 1200 Baht! hahaah. That being said.....
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Its up to you if you want to believe my purchase, but I am very certain that the fabric I choose for my pants (1000 THB) is Cashmere as it is labeled on the fabric.


Appreciate if you can keep your sarcastic comments to yourself.
Thank you !!!
sorry..didnt mean to be all sarcastic! I was just questining the whole cashmere thing. Thats all. But if you think you got what you paid for, then i'm not going to argue with you!

aHRoy1985 20-01-2010 09:59 PM

Just came back from Bangkok.

Made a jacket, 2 shirts and 2 pants at Paul's Fashion at Amari Watergate Hotel and 2 shirts and 1 pants at Crown.

I would say both tailors are good in terms of service and quality.
You guys can give these 2 tailors a try.

tuitionsg1 26-01-2010 12:37 PM

I realised you guys like to make shirts in bkk. How about blazers/jackets? How much do they cost at Crowns? Any notable landmarks around crowns?

Thanks!

guysmiley1980 26-01-2010 12:52 PM

So much it cost for a jacket 2 shirts and 2 pants at amari watergate?


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Originally Posted by aHRoy1985 (Post 43406923)
Just came back from Bangkok.

Made a jacket, 2 shirts and 2 pants at Paul's Fashion at Amari Watergate Hotel and 2 shirts and 1 pants at Crown.

I would say both tailors are good in terms of service and quality.
You guys can give these 2 tailors a try.


kitson_83 30-01-2010 09:12 PM

jus touch down from BKK..

Went to Pinky Tailor and make 3 shirts for 3500baht..

Was served by this gay gay looking guy.. very detailed in his explanation with regards to the material and measurement..

Although the price dun exactly seem to be cheap but i guess the service is gd enough to cover for that.. basically i think they are pretty service oriented.. I was offered a fitting on the next day and when I went back the next day, I brought a jeans that I bought in the wholesales market, that guy actually alter for me FOC... haha.. My jean and my shirt were sent to my Hotel on the 3rd day with everything in place...

Overall I think i will give Pinky Tailor a 4 out of 5 rating.. taking ino consideration the favour that they give to me and the service received..

grantt 01-02-2010 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tuitionsg1 (Post 43543008)
I realised you guys like to make shirts in bkk. How about blazers/jackets? How much do they cost at Crowns? Any notable landmarks around crowns?

Thanks!

I've had suits done up, not just blazers and am quite happy with them actually. I think they have a range from cheap to expensive depending on fabric. Umm..notable landmarks? They're located at Nana Sky Train station. That should make it quite easy i think...Either ways when in Bangkok - always use the sky train..i've been stuck in mad traffic for nearly 1.5 hour before!

Rivers 01-02-2010 04:39 PM

Anyone got advice as to who makes a good casual blazer / jacket? Thought of trying armani but don't know if they excel in that.

Think most of them do business jackets more than anything?

honneblue 19-02-2010 04:07 AM

Happy tailoring
 
I just got back from Savile Row. I took my husband's measurements (and he is a big man, certainly not 'normal' size). I had a linen suit made for him. I did take the pants to get copied but we didn't have a jacket.Narry and Aron double checked all the measurements and suggested the arms weren't long enough - so they made them a little longer(and surely enough, they were right). The workmanship in the linen jacket is exceptional, especially for the price.
Most of my items are pretty good too - although I must say I think the work on my husband's clothes was better than some of mine. I took some very expensive "Britsh India" brand cotton tops and Narry copied them perfectly and at about a quarter of their usual price.I am going to take the items I am not so happy with back next time I am in BKK (next year) and get them fixed up. Of course, this is another example of how it's better to allow time for two trips for tweaking, but even without that, this is very good quality for the price.They also made suits for Ng chee ker (Chief of Republic of Singapore Air Force)

zerosum1234 24-02-2010 09:17 AM

anyone tried tailoring JEANS in bangkok?
retail jeans don't fit my size so im looking for tailor options.
found one so far but quite pricey.

biodraft 24-02-2010 03:31 PM

can i say that generally i can get a proper shirt tailored at around 1000 baht per piece?

chase79 24-02-2010 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aHRoy1985 (Post 43406923)
Just came back from Bangkok.

Made a jacket, 2 shirts and 2 pants at Paul's Fashion at Amari Watergate Hotel and 2 shirts and 1 pants at Crown.

I would say both tailors are good in terms of service and quality.
You guys can give these 2 tailors a try.

damage how much??

xtc1977 24-02-2010 09:17 PM

Dear all,

Thank you for sharing so much info on the tailors. Very helpful for a 1st timer like me and I will be there this wkend.

Can I check if the shops accept credit cards for payment? If so, any extra surcharge?
Thk u all in advance.

darknezz 25-02-2010 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by grantt (Post 43341914)
sorry..didnt mean to be all sarcastic! I was just questining the whole cashmere thing. Thats all. But if you think you got what you paid for, then i'm not going to argue with you!

i jus realise that the name of the fabric is actually sewn onto the inside of my pants back pocket, it says "cashmere wool"

how do i post a picture here? i clicked on "insert image" icon and it asks for an internet link

darknezz 25-02-2010 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by xtc1977 (Post 44199123)
Can I check if the shops accept credit cards for payment? If so, any extra surcharge?

my frd paid at pinky using credit card not sure about the surcharges but i guess they (pinky) does not charge extra, but generally the exchange rate is unfavorable if i am not wrong

bwaysaigan 25-02-2010 02:01 AM

prior to CNY my trip
i got 6 biz ls shirts 5 biz pantys for 13000 cash @ this place near montien silom
forgot the name of the place - shirts n pantys no tags also.

kana carrot ?

kanashii23 25-02-2010 11:32 AM

generally l/s shirt cost 1000 baht & above and pant from 1500 baht and above if i am not wrong

Civician 02-04-2010 06:44 PM

Just back to apartment from Crown Tailor, they basically have 3 prices for cotton, 1500b - 100% 1200b - 80% 1000b - 60%
going for fitting service and advice was rather good - report from BKK

Wryer 03-04-2010 01:28 AM

Going to BKK in May. Intend to tailor some business shirt and pants...

Problem is. I only have 3D2N there. What's the turnaround time over there? Alternatively, does the tailor do air mails?

Civician 03-04-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Wryer (Post 44812218)
Going to BKK in May. Intend to tailor some business shirt and pants...

Problem is. I only have 3D2N there. What's the turnaround time over there? Alternatively, does the tailor do air mails?

first day choose fabric, second day fitting, third day deliver to hotel

Wryer 03-04-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Civician (Post 44815407)
first day choose fabric, second day fitting, third day deliver to hotel

Kind of tight. Is that the norm? Thanks! :)

Kraitz 03-04-2010 10:40 PM

Juz came back from BKK. tailor made 4 shirts and 2 pants from pinky tailor. Damage is ard 8000 baht. I would say workmanship & quality is good. Tried to take a cab down from pratunam. My advice is take the BTS. The cab driver doesn't know where pinky tailor is. He tried to convince me to go some place else to get tailored shirts. In the end I told him to drop me at the BTS. will go there again for shirts on my next trip..

Civician 03-04-2010 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Wryer (Post 44824946)
Kind of tight. Is that the norm? Thanks! :)

Everyone does it this way :)

Went to fitting today at Crown, shirt will be delivered to me on Monday. Personally, i prefer this fitting more to pinky. I did my shirt at Pinky during my trip last aug

darknezz 07-04-2010 02:49 PM

its been a few months since i started wearing the shirts from Pinky and Crown, i would say personally i prefer the shirts from Pinky. I found the sleeves of the shirts made by Crown too short, I can feel a tugging feeling when I use my keyboard in office. Also for some reason Crown shirts seems to make it looks like a got HUGE love handles around my waist. Lastly one of the shirts (1,200THB), the fabric is very hard and it wrinkles easily, it is uncomfortable when I wear.

So far, nothing to pick on the shirts from Pinky.

Next is to see how long can the shirts last me. ;)


FYI - I made 3 shirts (2 x 1200, 1 x 1000) from Pinky and Crown each (total 6 shirts).

lilprince 15-04-2010 04:36 PM

dun u find the fabric in crown limited?

Anyway, is there any tailor that can do very customise designing like linning, double collar and etc?

KongLanJiaoWei 17-04-2010 01:51 AM

anyone tried this ? http://www.tomsfashion.com/location.htm

guess i will be visiting narin and crown and make some shirts for comparison

grantt 29-06-2010 01:55 AM

Guys - I just got back on the forum and interestingly enough had a message on my inbox regardin tailors in Bangkok so I thought i'd refresh this post again. Overall, I'm still very happy with my shirts from Crown and I was reading the posts above mentioning the fit & stuff. I think we need to decide these things ourselve and just so everyone knows, make sure you are there for the fitting for that first shirt!! Wherever you go for tailoring, you need to try that 1st shirt! After that, replicas are dead easy!

Anyways, if anyone is still looking for tailoring in Bangkok - my opinion has not changed. Quality - Crown is the best you can find. You're gonna for sure get shirts that last a long time! I've tried the cheaper tailors around 700 Baht a shirt and I want to go back to them for a refund cuz I only use them 2 times and already it became s**t.

Gluck boys ;)

RoLanTo 06-07-2010 09:50 AM

crown tailor operating hours? anybody noes?

cos i'll be reaching BKK in the morning

Condor 05-08-2010 10:35 PM

Been a while. Returned to this thread to refresh my memory as I'm going to BKK this Sat!

Update on my spoils of war.

The pants... Wore only three times as I found it too tight. My mistake. It was so fitting that it can't hold anything. The moment I put my wallet or mobile into the front pocket, the bulge becomes so obvious. Then the pull on the fabric will focus eye line to my crotch... :s I'll bring it back to Pinky's to alter it. Good thing is they have like an inch of slack cloth along the seams for expansion.

Oh, must say that what I really like about the Pinky pants is they have a rubber like strip on each side of the waist to grip the shirt. It's really a good idea. It helps to keep the shirt in and keep you looking smart! You must know that your shirt will be tucked out more and more as you sit, walk, move, etc. right? Not sure if other tailors do this for the pants.

My blended cotton shirt (800b) is still going strong. Retained the shape. Looks good. Collar not flabby yet. Probably worn 10 odd times since. The only thing is after my first wear, I loosened the taper at the back by cutting off the threads as taught by the tailor at Pinky as I found it a little too tight. After my second wear, I removed the 2 tapers totally. Other than that, the cutting and fit is great!

My Egyptian cotton shirt (1500b) worn less than 5 times I guess so it's just like new condition. Conserving it a little. Not many good and presentable shirts in my wardrobe at the moment.

I'll visit the few tailors that I mentioned previously and see how it goes. Will surely go to Narin and check out the price for a jacket. If it's not too expensive and can be done within the limited time, I will tailor one.

Update again when I return! Will put up photos of the "features" of each tailor then.

Raffles88 05-08-2010 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RoLanTo (Post 47019202)
crown tailor operating hours? anybody noes?

cos i'll be reaching BKK in the morning

10.30am bkk time

Condor 07-08-2010 08:49 PM

Despite that I'm now more familiar with my way to the tailors and such, the whole of today was dedicated to tailoring. This time round I'm staying even closer @ Sukhumvit near compared to the last time @ Pratunam.

Headed to Narin after my lunch to check out my mission for a suit. Peter as usual is immaculately dressed. very smart. He's also very fluent in English. This time round, he's friendlier than the previous.

Went in and asked about how the pricing is like for a suit. 10000b and up. While thinking aloud how much that translate to, Peter replied with "in Singapore dollars?". It's really dead easy to pick out a Singaporean once the mouth is open. :D Anyway, it's is excess of S$400. Not cheap.

Ask next about the time needed. 1.5 weeks. Peter insists on 3 fittings, no less. 3-4 days in between each fitting. So unless you're in BKK for that long or make frequent business trips here, it's tough.

His shirts go from 1100b and there's a minimum order of 3 pieces. Quite upfront, Peter told me I can't make it as I'll be leaving Tues wee morning. Without me asking. He's not attempting my business at all. Really must respect the kind of respect he have for his trade.

To cut the story short, I made 6 shirts from Pinky (hate their collection!), 2 from Crown, 1 from Boss Avenue (probably will get just 1 more). Totally burst my budget. So not getting any from Empire or Nickerman this trip.

This time round, I did not use standard template. I had a lot of specific requests. In fact, I made 2nd trip to each of the tailor to refine my orders. :p

I've shared my experience @ Pinky previously. This time I'll share on Crown and Boss Avenue.

Crown is very patient, walking through every aspect of the design with me. They are the most "structured". There's a little booklet that offers a choice of collars, cuffs, back, insignia, etc. In fact this is exactly what prompted me to made a trip back to Pinky to refine my design!

All in all a good experience. Except that I didn't get any discount. :( Probably that went into my customisation already. But was told they do not charge for special requests anyway. But he still sort of used that as an excuse to not give me any discount. It's not as busy like Pinky who virtually have customers in the shop all the time (good chance that there'll be another group of Singaporeans as well) so you'll have all the attention that you want. Then again, my impression of Crown like the last time is they are very passive and traditional. They do not offer updates on the latest trends and likely have not much idea. Pinky is really great in this BTW. The 2IC (after Pinky himself) will provide inputs on what is the current trend, what is popular, etc. when taking down requirements just in case.

Boss Avenue is also very patient. The salesmanship is very good. Range is also quite good. Has some unique designs. Boss Avenue is the only out of the 3 that totally do not charge for any customisation. No additional material cost no nothing. They are also the cheapest. 2 range. 850b and 1400b. (Damn! I saw the fabric design that I paid 1500b for in Pinky last round - only different colour - at 850b. I sort of couldn't resist so I made a shirt with this. Can compare quality and share later). They are also very receptive to all kind of questions and ideas. In fact they have sources from perhaps a partner that send emails with photos of new shirt designs and such. Some of them are quite nice. Fashionable and not the typical plain or simple designs that you see. He showed them to me as I asked about how else to design, etc.

Anyway, all the tailors do not work on Sunday so my fitting is on Monday. Hope all turns out well. I'll probably take some photos and update on the quality and workmanship when I return to SG and have some time.

whitebiox 09-08-2010 03:16 PM

Hi All, any website where i could view the latest Blazer design? as planning to make 1 for wedding.

Condor 10-08-2010 12:57 AM

Spent 10100b on tailoring. 9 long sleeves and 1 short sleeve in total. Together with what I bought during GSS, guess I won't be buying anymore shirts for the next 3 years... Spent too much on self grooming this year. :p Probably spent more than the last 5yrs combined.

Firstly, I have all the shirts delivered except for Boss Avenue who were supposed to have delivered them nearly 2hrs ago. Call them an hour back and said will deliver after the rain. Rain stopped for more than 30min and no sign of delivery. Shop already closed. Getting late. I'm leaving 6am in the morning...

Anyway, between Pinky, Crown, and Boss, Pinky is the only one that do not do flat felling throughout. Flat felling is only done for the armhole. For the price that they charge, this really falls short. This time round the shirt tail do not look as good. Crown's tail look great. But this is purely psychological since no one will see it since would be tucked in.

Bought 5 long sleeves and 1 short sleeve from Pinky. 1 of the long sleeve is too tight. No biggie. Guess I'll just have to release the duct myself. However they did not do my request properly. I requested for inner lining but they only did the cuffs and collar but not the spine. And the short sleeve is done differently from my last round. The tail is too long. Supposed to be shorter since would be tucked out but they did the same length as the long sleeves! Otherwise I'm ok with the fitting. It's likely a consistency problem over different tailors. I thought my shirts from the last trip looked smarter. Will go home and compare.

Without wearing, the cutting of Crown's pieces look great. Full flat felling, nice curves for the tail. Putting the shirt on however, I think not too happy with their measurement and alteration.

Firstly, the shoulder blade length is a little shorter. Makes the shirt look a wee undersized and me smaller than I already am. Overall the torso is too tight. When I raised both hands upwards at the same time, I can see my ribs through the material! Probably will burst if I stretch hard rapidly. This is probable remedial-able by myself. I've request for ducts at the back so I can release them to loosen the torso.

But the forearm is too narrow. It's ok normally but when I close my forearm fully (flexing motion), I can see the undulation of my forearm muscles! My flexed muscles are pushing against the sleeves! This is something that I have to live with. Lucky only made 2 shirts. But is the most expensive 2 pieces of this trip @ 1200b each (got 100b discount from Pinky for this price range).

As I requested for my name to be embroidered on the cuff, both pieces have it at different location. Both are not at the location where I requested, and one of them is too far off. Sigh... Where's the QC?

When I went for my fitting it was not this bad. It was a bit loose. Marked down the places to tighten. End up overdone. I did not see the embroidery during the fitting as the cuff concerned was not sewn on. My guess then is it was not back from the embroidery. So far end product wise Crown is not doing well.

Just got my Boss Avenue shirts. These 2 shirts are more of fancy dress shirts so have a smarter look to it. First glance mostly seems rather decent although I can say that there is room for improvement. Can see some of the alignment and seams are not totally straight. Only noticeable upon scrutiny so is not a major issue. The fit is not bad. The alteration appears to be working well (not like Crown!).

At this moment, I would say as an overall package I still think Pinky is not bad. I like the fabric selection, affordable price after discount, decent workmanship, etc. Only thing is need some improvement in the consistency.

Crown is a little disappointing but perhaps once everything is gotten right then it'd be a good choice as well. but my "first" from Pinky and Rajawongse were better fits than Crown.

Boss Avenue seem to deliver very decent shirts. Workmanship is not bad, although I think Pinky and Crown are slightly better. Boss couldn't follow my requests as closely as I had wanted. But the value cannot be beaten. 850b vs 1200b. Did I say I saw a fabric here going for 850b when the same was going for 1500b at Pinky? I believe the quality is the same. I cut a piece of sample and compared. Can't really tell the difference. Anyway made a shirt with this material. Just need to go home and compare using bigger surface area.

Anyway, I'll give all of them a couple of wear and see how it goes. If the Boss Avenue shirts can stand up to the test of time and repeated wears, I guess I will get more from them. Fully customisable with no extra charge, decent fabric selection, acceptable workmanship, good price. Probably can get some discount with more pieces. Anything below 800b would be great. S$33-34/pc. Why bother getting rack shirts?

grantt 11-08-2010 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Condor (Post 47878076)
Spent 10100b on tailoring. 9 long sleeves and 1 short sleeve in total. Together with what I bought during GSS, guess I won't be buying anymore shirts for the next 3 years... Spent too much on self grooming this year. :p Probably spent more than the last 5yrs combined.

Firstly, I have all the shirts delivered except for Boss Avenue who were supposed to have delivered them nearly 2hrs ago. Call them an hour back and said will deliver after the rain. Rain stopped for more than 30min and no sign of delivery. Shop already closed. Getting late. I'm leaving 6am in the morning...

Anyway, between Pinky, Crown, and Boss, Pinky is the only one that do not do flat felling throughout. Flat felling is only done for the armhole. For the price that they charge, this really falls short. This time round the shirt tail do not look as good. Crown's tail look great. But this is purely psychological since no one will see it since would be tucked in.

Bought 5 long sleeves and 1 short sleeve from Pinky. 1 of the long sleeve is too tight. No biggie. Guess I'll just have to release the duct myself. However they did not do my request properly. I requested for inner lining but they only did the cuffs and collar but not the spine. And the short sleeve is done differently from my last round. The tail is too long. Supposed to be shorter since would be tucked out but they did the same length as the long sleeves! Otherwise I'm ok with the fitting. It's likely a consistency problem over different tailors. I thought my shirts from the last trip looked smarter. Will go home and compare.

Without wearing, the cutting of Crown's pieces look great. Full flat felling, nice curves for the tail. Putting the shirt on however, I think not too happy with their measurement and alteration.

Firstly, the shoulder blade length is a little shorter. Makes the shirt look a wee undersized and me smaller than I already am. Overall the torso is too tight. When I raised both hands upwards at the same time, I can see my ribs through the material! Probably will burst if I stretch hard rapidly. This is probable remedial-able by myself. I've request for ducts at the back so I can release them to loosen the torso.

But the forearm is too narrow. It's ok normally but when I close my forearm fully (flexing motion), I can see the undulation of my forearm muscles! My flexed muscles are pushing against the sleeves! This is something that I have to live with. Lucky only made 2 shirts. But is the most expensive 2 pieces of this trip @ 1200b each (got 100b discount from Pinky for this price range).

As I requested for my name to be embroidered on the cuff, both pieces have it at different location. Both are not at the location where I requested, and one of them is too far off. Sigh... Where's the QC?

When I went for my fitting it was not this bad. It was a bit loose. Marked down the places to tighten. End up overdone. I did not see the embroidery during the fitting as the cuff concerned was not sewn on. My guess then is it was not back from the embroidery. So far end product wise Crown is not doing well.

Just got my Boss Avenue shirts. These 2 shirts are more of fancy dress shirts so have a smarter look to it. First glance mostly seems rather decent although I can say that there is room for improvement. Can see some of the alignment and seams are not totally straight. Only noticeable upon scrutiny so is not a major issue. The fit is not bad. The alteration appears to be working well (not like Crown!).

At this moment, I would say as an overall package I still think Pinky is not bad. I like the fabric selection, affordable price after discount, decent workmanship, etc. Only thing is need some improvement in the consistency.

Crown is a little disappointing but perhaps once everything is gotten right then it'd be a good choice as well. but my "first" from Pinky and Rajawongse were better fits than Crown.

Boss Avenue seem to deliver very decent shirts. Workmanship is not bad, although I think Pinky and Crown are slightly better. Boss couldn't follow my requests as closely as I had wanted. But the value cannot be beaten. 850b vs 1200b. Did I say I saw a fabric here going for 850b when the same was going for 1500b at Pinky? I believe the quality is the same. I cut a piece of sample and compared. Can't really tell the difference. Anyway made a shirt with this material. Just need to go home and compare using bigger surface area.

Anyway, I'll give all of them a couple of wear and see how it goes. If the Boss Avenue shirts can stand up to the test of time and repeated wears, I guess I will get more from them. Fully customisable with no extra charge, decent fabric selection, acceptable workmanship, good price. Probably can get some discount with more pieces. Anything below 800b would be great. S$33-34/pc. Why bother getting rack shirts?

Honestly speaking though bro, it is partially your fault for not going back for that second fitting to make sure the alterations you did make you fit and feel really good..You get what I mean? The first time I made my shirts, I went back to try the shirt in the morning and made sure to try the finished piece at the store also. This way the shirt then fitted perfectly and I know that I walked out happy! Later on when I purchased more shirts, then I no longer did he fitting because now they had my sizes on file.

Whatever it is - i think it is important (for the first time) to make sure you go back again to try your shirts a second round if you can..if you really, really can't then have the tailors deliver the clothes to you.

Also bro, in all fairness to all tailors, you mentioned that boss avenue had two prices and you took the cheaper one..i'm sure if I remember correctly, both from my experience and reading thru this forum, crown & pinky BOTH have cheaper shirts as well but you just didn't pick from them! So in a way - we have to be fair to them also that they have some cheaper shirts. I think pinky and crown both at 950 or 1000? And yes, I prefer that stitching thing that both crown & boss do as well. Makes the shirt look more..classy?

Anyways, I personally think it is best for all buyers to try everywhere before making a decision. Believe me - all these tailors are a hit and miss. It took us on this forum ages to finally shortlist like 5 good tailors! Visit them all if you can! :-) Happy shopping everyone!

MunkyCrap 11-08-2010 11:19 AM

hi. I read from earlier post that all tailors r closed on Sunday. however I am going frm 14 to 16 which is sat to mon. will there be time to measure, fit n collect on Monday b4 I go?

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Condor 11-08-2010 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by grantt (Post 47906127)
Honestly speaking though bro, it is partially your fault for not going back for that second fitting to make sure the alterations you did make you fit and feel really good..You get what I mean? The first time I made my shirts, I went back to try the shirt in the morning and made sure to try the finished piece at the store also. This way the shirt then fitted perfectly and I know that I walked out happy! Later on when I purchased more shirts, then I no longer did he fitting because now they had my sizes on file.

Whatever it is - i think it is important (for the first time) to make sure you go back again to try your shirts a second round if you can..if you really, really can't then have the tailors deliver the clothes to you.

Also bro, in all fairness to all tailors, you mentioned that boss avenue had two prices and you took the cheaper one..i'm sure if I remember correctly, both from my experience and reading thru this forum, crown & pinky BOTH have cheaper shirts as well but you just didn't pick from them! So in a way - we have to be fair to them also that they have some cheaper shirts. I think pinky and crown both at 950 or 1000? And yes, I prefer that stitching thing that both crown & boss do as well. Makes the shirt look more..classy?

Anyways, I personally think it is best for all buyers to try everywhere before making a decision. Believe me - all these tailors are a hit and miss. It took us on this forum ages to finally shortlist like 5 good tailors! Visit them all if you can! :-) Happy shopping everyone!

I told them my time limitation and asked if they could take my order. Once they promised I expect that they live up to it. Crown delayed my first fitting by 2hrs. They called my hotel 30min before my scheduled fitting to delay. Otherwise I would have been able to do 1 more fitting around 6pm that evening. This time round I simply couldn't do a second fitting after their delay as I'm on the 9am flight.

Not intending to find fault, but I think they really overdid the adjustments by a huge margin. I'm not sure now if I'd wear them as I can feel a strong pull at the elbow area with even a slight angle of about 30 degrees? I've dumped them for washing and see how it goes after. Not sure if I'll need to condemn the shirts or can keep until next trip for them to alter. Don't appear to have slack cloth. In fact I compared against shirts from Pinky and Boss. Crown's sleeves are shorter by 0.5-1". There's no alteration whateverso for this. Couldn't detect this during fitting due to missing cuff. :(

Problem this time is simply the lack of time. The trip was rescheduled and was limited by other constraints that I have (need to reach Singapore before early evening otherwise would have taken the evening flight out).

Last trip didn't include the weekend and have no idea the tailors do not work in Sunday (Boss shop remain open for measurement though). I won't be wearing the short sleeve from Pinky as well until I get them altered next trip. Too long to tuck out. Sigh... This trip is not so positive.

Anyway will be busy until mid next week so I won't take a close look at the shirts. Loosened the ducts and put them into washing first. Hope the shrinkage will not make things worse. I will try to put up some photos to pick out all the faults so that people know what to look/insist for.

Anyway while I was loosening the duct for Crown's, I can see the attention to detail that they put. The ducts were made using a finer thread so less visible. They were conscious to avoid auto unraveling from repeated wear/washing so they ran the ends a couple of times to make sure they were "sewn in dead". Together with the full flat felling, can see the level of workmanship and extra effort that they invested.

Pinky is really a mass production shop catering to a lot of Singaporeans and uses variety to gain business. Hard to beat their fabric selection. They are probably the "top tailor" for Singaporeans. Probably no other tailor get as much Singaporean business. The problem is also this. Singaporeans are not so picky/knowledgeable like Caucasians who are used to better quality stuff who know what to look out for in a quality tailor.

They do not do full flat felling, the ducts were using thicker thread (not that it's bad, just that brought down by Crown) and were left fraying. Other than these, think they are quite decent. In fact, the way the cuffs are done I feel the workmanship is a notch above Crown despite that they are different designs - fundamentals remain.

Oh, I really believe the 1500b fabric that I have is the same quality as the 850b from Boss. I think design also plays a part in how Pinky price their fabric. Not purely on quality. Felt a bit "chopped". My impression of Pinky came down a bit with this trip. But then again, I'm please with that 1500b shirt. Quite sure Boss will not pull it off like Pinky did for me.

Boss is not a "great" tailor. Although as an overall package they are "ok", I can find a number of issues that will put them in a lower class. The cutting is not really straight. The alignment leaves much to be desired. But can be overlooked so long as the price is low enough. Good enough for daily wear (if can last).

Pinky has:
- 1000b (60/40-70/30 blend)
- 1200b (80/20 blended)
- 1500b (Egyptian 100% cotton)
- 1800b (High quality cotton 100%)
- 2000b (Italian 100% cotton)
- 2500b (Italian 100% cotton)
Not sure which are 2-ply. The price for the last 2 range may be wrong, and up to 3500b? Did not pay too much attention as not within my budget expectation. This trip I got 3 from the 1000b range.

Crown has:
- 1000b (60/40-70/30 blended)
- 1200b (80/20 blend)
- 1500b (100% cotton - not necessary Egyptian)
- 2000b and above range
This trip I got 2 from the 1200b range over the 1000b range due to choices available.

Boss has:
- 850b (blended, not clear on the ratio)
- 1400b (100% cotton, no further details)
This trip got 2 from the 850b range.

So in fact I've got "cheap" shirts from Pinky as well. That aside, the workmanship should be the same regardless of the material costs. Unless of course their more highly skilled tailors only do more expensive fabrics? JFYI, the Pinky shirt that is made too tightly is from the 1200b range. Maybe is cut too small? Maybe the tailor so happen to sew smaller? Who knows?

Condor 11-08-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MunkyCrap (Post 47911388)
hi. I read from earlier post that all tailors r closed on Sunday. however I am going frm 14 to 16 which is sat to mon. will there be time to measure, fit n collect on Monday b4 I go?

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I believe all tailors do not work on Sunday. I'll distinct tailors (as those who sew) from the shops who take orders, measurements, etc.

Some shops do remain open. But the popular ones are closed. This includes Pinky, Crown, Rajawonse, Raja's Fashion, Narin Couture, Empire, and Moonriver - those I noted.

If you're a repeat customer not requiring any alteration, it is a little tight. Assuming budget flight, touch down clear custom, reach hotel, etc. probably nearing 11am. Assuming you do not shower, have a bite, know your way around, etc. and rush to a tailor, choose fabric quickly, decide design quickly, you can.

If you're a new customer, you can try if they can squeeze in a second fit before you leave.

Condor 11-08-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MunkyCrap (Post 47911388)
hi. I read from earlier post that all tailors r closed on Sunday. however I am going frm 14 to 16 which is sat to mon. will there be time to measure, fit n collect on Monday b4 I go?

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Hey! Do you think you can help me bring back my shirts back for alteration? :D

ultradiving 11-08-2010 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Condor (Post 47924979)
I told them my time limitation and asked if they could take my order. Once they promised I expect that they live up to it. Crown delayed my first fitting by 2hrs. They called my hotel 30min before my scheduled fitting to delay. Otherwise I would have been able to do 1 more fitting around 6pm that evening. This time round I simply couldn't do a second fitting after their delay as I'm on the 9am flight.

Not intending to find fault, but I think they really overdid the adjustments by a huge margin. I'm not sure now if I'd wear them as I can feel a strong pull at the elbow area with even a slight angle of about 30 degrees? I've dumped them for washing and see how it goes after. Not sure if I'll need to condemn the shirts or can keep until next trip for them to alter. Don't appear to have slack cloth. In fact I compared against shirts from Pinky and Boss. Crown's sleeves are shorter by 0.5-1". There's no alteration whateverso for this. Couldn't detect this during fitting due to missing cuff. :(

Problem this time is simply the lack of time. The trip was rescheduled and was limited by other constraints that I have (need to reach Singapore before early evening otherwise would have taken the evening flight out).

Last trip didn't include the weekend and have no idea the tailors do not work in Sunday (Boss shop remain open for measurement though). I won't be wearing the short sleeve from Pinky as well until I get them altered next trip. Too long to tuck out. Sigh... This trip is not so positive.

Anyway will be busy until mid next week so I won't take a close look at the shirts. Loosened the ducts and put them into washing first. Hope the shrinkage will not make things worse. I will try to put up some photos to pick out all the faults so that people know what to look/insist for.

Anyway while I was loosening the duct for Crown's, I can see the attention to detail that they put. The ducts were made using a finer thread so less visible. They were conscious to avoid auto unraveling from repeated wear/washing so they ran the ends a couple of times to make sure they were "sewn in dead". Together with the full flat felling, can see the level of workmanship and extra effort that they invested.

Pinky is really a mass production shop catering to a lot of Singaporeans and uses variety to gain business. Hard to beat their fabric selection. They are probably the "top tailor" for Singaporeans. Probably no other tailor get as much Singaporean business. The problem is also this. Singaporeans are not so picky/knowledgeable like Caucasians who are used to better quality stuff who know what to look out for in a quality tailor.

They do not do full flat felling, the ducts were using thicker thread (not that it's bad, just that brought down by Crown) and were left fraying. Other than these, think they are quite decent. In fact, the way the cuffs are done I feel the workmanship is a notch above Crown despite that they are different designs - fundamentals remain.

Oh, I really believe the 1500b fabric that I have is the same quality as the 850b from Boss. I think design also plays a part in how Pinky price their fabric. Not purely on quality. Felt a bit "chopped". My impression of Pinky came down a bit with this trip. But then again, I'm please with that 1500b shirt. Quite sure Boss will not pull it off like Pinky did for me.

Boss is not a "great" tailor. Although as an overall package they are "ok", I can find a number of issues that will put them in a lower class. The cutting is not really straight. The alignment leaves much to be desired. But can be overlooked so long as the price is low enough. Good enough for daily wear (if can last).

Pinky has:
- 1000b (60/40-70/30 blend)
- 1200b (80/20 blended)
- 1500b (Egyptian 100% cotton)
- 1800b (High quality cotton 100%)
- 2000b (Italian 100% cotton)
- 2500b (Italian 100% cotton)
Not sure which are 2-ply. The price for the last 2 range may be wrong, and up to 3500b? Did not pay too much attention as not within my budget expectation. This trip I got 3 from the 1000b range.

Crown has:
- 1000b (60/40-70/30 blended)
- 1200b (80/20 blend)
- 1500b (100% cotton - not necessary Egyptian)
- 2000b and above range
This trip I got 2 from the 1200b range over the 1000b range due to choices available.

Boss has:
- 850b (blended, not clear on the ratio)
- 1400b (100% cotton, no further details)
This trip got 2 from the 850b range.

So in fact I've got "cheap" shirts from Pinky as well. That aside, the workmanship should be the same regardless of the material costs. Unless of course their more highly skilled tailors only do more expensive fabrics? JFYI, the Pinky shirt that is made too tightly is from the 1200b range. Maybe is cut too small? Maybe the tailor so happen to sew smaller? Who knows?

Well probably its just bad experience and different expectations. Shirt and pants, you do realise some tailors does "mark" their length based on customers' request or by so-called "standards".

i.e. Some cut their pants right at the brim of the shoe cuttings while some just let it slack-rest on your shoes.

Till date, no banal talk from the Crown's unlike the rest who quote slightly higher and gives the "so-called" discounts. Price for the quality and service I would say.

Case: On my recent trip, had a hiccup on one of my pant's pocket, the boss actually sent his sales rep "Lop" over to my hotel and pick up the piece on a Sunday night based on my schedule, brought it back for a fix and delivered right back later, Kudos for that. They even sent a follow up message. I would say their PR/Service is commendable.

MunkyCrap 11-08-2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Condor (Post 47926283)
Hey! Do you think you can help me bring back my shirts back for alteration? :D

haha thanks for your reply :D
not sure if i can do it for u. may not hav chance to go tailor if gf is bz shopping

Condor 12-08-2010 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MunkyCrap (Post 47932486)
haha thanks for your reply :D
not sure if i can do it for u. may not hav chance to go tailor if gf is bz shopping

OIC. Actually I just emailed my tailor and got a reply from them. If you can just help to drop the shirts, I can get them to mail it back. If you don't mind I can pass the shirts to you and see if you are able to drop the shirts (best effort basis only). If you can't then I'll just collect the shirts back from you. Or otherwise if it's too troublesome for you then it's ok too.

Condor 12-08-2010 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ultradiving (Post 47929857)
Well probably its just bad experience and different expectations. Shirt and pants, you do realise some tailors does "mark" their length based on customers' request or by so-called "standards".

i.e. Some cut their pants right at the brim of the shoe cuttings while some just let it slack-rest on your shoes.

Till date, no banal talk from the Crown's unlike the rest who quote slightly higher and gives the "so-called" discounts. Price for the quality and service I would say.

Case: On my recent trip, had a hiccup on one of my pant's pocket, the boss actually sent his sales rep "Lop" over to my hotel and pick up the piece on a Sunday night based on my schedule, brought it back for a fix and delivered right back later, Kudos for that. They even sent a follow up message. I would say their PR/Service is commendable.

Agree that this is a one off bad experience. Other than the bad fitting due to no other than lack of fitting appointment, can't fault them too much on the quality and workmanship.

In fact I just emailed them at about 10pm and less than 1.5hrs later, I got an email response! They took all the issues very well and want to do what they can to correct them so that I can wear the shirt smartly.

I have just replied them with photos taken on the issues so might as well also post here and share.

This is how it looks like after I loosened the shirt by removing the 2 ducts at the back. Gained 2" more cloth at the widest. Still a little too tight a the torso, but at least I only feel the pull when I bring my arms forward. Previously I feel the hug just doing the buttoning action.
http://i33.tinypic.com/33cnl1h.jpg

This is how it looks like from the side. Notice the pull?
http://i33.tinypic.com/4hwrgg.jpg

This is how it looks like from the back. Can see the shirt "eating" into the flesh?
http://i36.tinypic.com/21m6yx4.jpg

Condor 12-08-2010 01:03 AM

Since I'm at it, might as well take more photos now rather than later.

This is the 2 type of fancy cuffs that I made this time.
- The one on the left is the inverted double cuff. Crossover between a double french cuff and a normal button cuff. Crown shirt.
- The one on the right is a crossover between a double french cuff and single french cuff with a twist. The corner of the outer layer is cut away to reveal more of the contrasting inner layer. The cufflink instead of going through 4 layers of cloth is going through only the 2 innermost layers. The cufflink is looser now but don't think it matter much. Pinky shirt.
- I did a single side angle cut double french cuff from Boss. No photos yet. But the output is off from my expectation.
http://i38.tinypic.com/2mmygq0.jpg

The thing I like about Pinky is their wide selection of fabric. I tailored more shirts than I initially intended to as I saw fabrics that give rise to pretty nice combination for inner layer.


This is the comparison between the inseams and cutting of the shirt tail between Crown and Pinky.
http://i38.tinypic.com/312xmxf.jpg

If you can't really see what's going on with Crown, it's normal. That's the beauty of flat felling. Nicer finishing and stronger joins. Read more about it here (http://www.backpacking.net/makegear/...latfelled.html). As you can see, much more work is required so mostly only good tailors would do them. Disappointed with Pinky!

You can see that Pinky's inseam is the normal seam that you find on nearly all rack shirts. Quick work. Just 1 run over the machine instead of 2 runs with folding, alignment, etc. Not a big thing until you realise the benefit of flat felled seams and what you should be getting for a quality piece that you thought you paid for.

I also love the curve that Crown does for the shirt tail. Smooth and curves the way I like them. Like a continuous sine wave. Pinky does them simply by curving the front and rear and does not care if the side curvature is smoothly linked up. The point where the front and back meet is like a triangular wave. No doubt it's rucked and hidden under the pants, but I feel good knowing the curve is nice!

Condor 12-08-2010 01:40 AM

For those who want to customise, some ideas:

Cuffs
http://www.mimifroufrou.com/scenteds...f%20Styles.jpg

http://www.massimotailor.com/images/shirt-cuffs.jpg

http://www.cardeens.com/CUFF_STYLES.jpg


Collars
http://www.ricofashions.com/images/COLLAR%20STYLES.JPG

http://www.raresplendors.com/images/...Collar%201.jpg

http://www.bullandbearclothiers.com/...LAR_STYLES.jpg

http://www.michaelandrewsbespoke.com...lars-cuffs.jpg

Condor 12-08-2010 02:04 AM

Double Collar
http://www.zootsuitstore.com/Shoppin...cyds1830bg.jpg

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/w...02-1detail.jpg

http://www.shirtsmyway.com/blog/wp-c...le-Collar1.jpg


Placket
Normal ("column spine")
http://www.office-dress-shirts.com/i...cket_front.jpg

Hidden buttons
http://www.vmclothiers.com/uploads/f...ont_hidden.jpg


Contrasting Button Eye
http://image.ec21.com/image/kelvin12..._Stitching.jpg

Think also along the lines of contrasting threads for collar, cuff, etc. Anywhere you can imagine.

There are also pocket styles that you can customise. Not going to search for sample photos since I tailor mine without any pockets.

Also, you can embroider your name/initials onto the shirt where you like it. Typically on pocket/chest area where most famous labels brand their shirts or the cuffs. Probably nice on corner of collar as well. Again, any colour thread you want. To be less conspicuous, use a thread whose colour is close to the base colour where the initials would be printed. Or a higher contrast colour to scream your own label to everyone.

Condor 12-08-2010 02:07 AM

My original request to Pinky was for something like this where the underside of the placket (reverse where the button and button holes are) is also lined with the contrasting fabric. Unfortunate they only did the inner collar and not the underside of the placket.

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/w...002-1black.jpg

lweegp 12-08-2010 04:21 PM

hey guys just my contribution on pinky. was there recently (during the national holiday break) after reading all the contributions of the bros here. the place was easy to find n conveniently located. i would say im quite satisfied with the services provided by them too. the guy who served me is nom. i was there quite early n probably their first customer. so the usual cloth selection procedure. selected one b2500 n one b1500 range. price quoted after discount was b3500 but finally managed to lower to b3000. their service was fast n efficient. i had my first try later that evening 6pm. some minor touchup to do but otherwise all are in good shape and requirements which i have given to them. wanted to try paul's fashion at armari but not much time...perhap next year when i go bkk in apr 2011 again.


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