Ant Financials IPO 2020

reddevil0728

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Yes but in the long run (Min 10 years).
When China 2nd and 3rd Tier City Develops.
You want short term fast expansion need to go outside China.
The world can change a lot in 10 years also. So bet on the 10 years first lor.

But of course DYODD
 

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The world can change a lot in 10 years also. So bet on the 10 years first lor.

But of course DYODD

Yup,
All depends on your luck.
If I invested in Bitcoin when I was aware of it (30 cents per coin),
I would already have been a Millionaire and Retire liao.
 

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Yup,
All depends on your luck.
If I invested in Bitcoin when I was aware of it (30 cents per coin),
I would already have been a Millionaire and Retire liao.

Yes I agree Luck plays a HUGE part when opportunity comes.

During my younger days, when people offer me BTC super cheap I told him "mai la.. scam lai de" LOL
 

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Ib can also consider

Thank you so much mate!

Btw may i know for IB should i just create an account from the dot com site or hk site? Not sure what are the difference.
 
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yea so for now there is still a lot of untapped volume within china itself no?

u may have 1.3bil ppl using the platform, but they are only spend $1 a day. but there's still a lot of room for increase in consumer spending ma
Alipay has expanded beyond China, you can find it in many countries , Japan, Malaysia, Singapore(not famous and difficult to use)....

For China alone, the consumer spending is crazy, not $1 a day for sure.
Even a road side fruit stall is accepting alipay and wechat pay. Not just young folks are using ewallet, the old folks there are using wechat/alipay.

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Alipay has expanded beyond China, you can find it in many countries , Japan, Malaysia, Singapore(not famous and difficult to use)....

For China alone, the consumer spending is crazy, not $1 a day for sure.
Even a road side fruit stall is accepting alipay and wechat pay. Not just young folks are using ewallet, the old folks there are using wechat/alipay.

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that's my pt
 

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Yes, but already near Peak Growth in China already.
Even Beggars in China prefer Alipay/Wechat Pay over Cash.

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yea so for now there is still a lot of untapped volume within china itself no?

u may have 1.3bil ppl using the platform, but they are only spend $1 a day. but there's still a lot of room for increase in consumer spending ma

my friends above, you all missing what's ant's business model. Basically alipay and wechatpay dominated everyone's life in china, they use it everyday. Not just transfer money to friends or beggars, like that jack ma won't earn money.

Using alipay to make payment, there is a small amt charged to the merchant by alipay, iirc 0.06%, but the market is so big, that make a big part of their earning.

but many don't know ant have license to offer small loan, the product is called "借呗" (means just borrow), no cash on hand? you can anyhow borrow few hundred rmb also can, to treat ur girlfriend a good meal or whatever u want to spend, interest like 12.775%~16.425% pa

They also offer product called "花呗" (just spend), many ppl don't have credit card, but ant know u better than u know urself, they know how much u earn if your boss transfer salary to you using alipay, of course how much u spend they sure know, they let you spend first then pay back later like credit card, 18% pa.

You use alipay and taobao everyday, and ant building on you the habit of just borrow and just spend. This is a big market, growing crazy, almost 40% income (~28.6b rmb) from credit products in first 6 months this year, more than their payment business (26b rmb), pls be reminded these credit products only come to market few years ago, a lot of potential. jack ma keep pushing their gov loosen restriction on their "creativity" in doing business, he gave a speech recently on this thing, meaning wanting gov loosen control on their credit products (their gov has been tightening after impact of these credit products shown, they dont want china become US like that)

And they are growing in offering financial and insurance products also.
 

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my friends above, you all missing what's ant's business model. Basically alipay and wechatpay dominated everyone's life in china, they use it everyday. Not just transfer money to friends or beggars, like that jack ma won't earn money.

Using alipay to make payment, there is a small amt charged to the merchant by alipay, iirc 0.06%, but the market is so big, that make a big part of their earning.

but many don't know ant have license to offer small loan, the product is called "借呗" (means just borrow), no cash on hand? you can anyhow borrow few hundred rmb also can, to treat ur girlfriend a good meal or whatever u want to spend, interest like 12.775%~16.425% pa

They also offer product called "花呗" (just spend), many ppl don't have credit card, but ant know u better than u know urself, they know how much u earn if your boss transfer salary to you using alipay, of course how much u spend they sure know, they let you spend first then pay back later like credit card, 18% pa.

You use alipay and taobao everyday, and ant building on you the habit of just borrow and just spend. This is a big market, growing crazy, almost 40% income (~28.6b rmb) from credit products in first 6 months this year, more than their payment business (26b rmb), pls be reminded these credit products only come to market few years ago, a lot of potential. jack ma keep pushing their gov loosen restriction on their "creativity" in doing business, he gave a speech recently on this thing, meaning wanting gov loosen control on their credit products (their gov has been tightening after impact of these credit products shown, they dont want china become US like that)

And they are growing in offering financial and insurance products also.

I missed????
 

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buy in open market easier lah
 

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waiting for it on thurs.

if it opens 120 like expected im gna grab.
 
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