Chanced on an old auntie washing loads of bowls at a temple, so offered help, then helped a few days

[Full_Cream_Milk]

Did you ask your niece along to wash?

 

[Emperor_Hippo]

Volunteer I tot is got time then help... If like that is like working part time with no pay.. I rather stay at gym then.. haha

yes and no. volunteer is both "got time then help", but when u are there, u are expected to give it your all and not half ass it thru.

there are different levels of volunteers, some are adhoc and some are perm contributors.

so it depends on what level do u wanna volunteer on. I'd done perm mostly and yes, commitment level is crazy high, but satisfaction of seeing those deserving getting the required help is there.

why not put those muscles to use? find out where requires adhoc help, where requires adhoc and time-stretch committed help. plan your time around it.

 

[focus1974]

Being a volunter does not mean you can suka suka

Work needs planning. Manpower is one issue.

If people suka suka come and go then how to plan?

that one is called paid service, freelance, contractor, part-timers. hehe

 

[Emperor_Hippo]

that one is called paid service, freelance, contractor, part-timers. hehe

even volunteers got different levels.

 

[rrr2015]

How come no kind soul devotee sponsor an automated dish washing machine to the temple?

积功德人人要呢

 

[rider83]

Then another auntie told me u must leave ur hp to the incharge, u want to do volunteer is like that one, we tell u what time come, u must help. Volunteer is like that one.

I'm not leaving my number cause I only help when I'm free. Who say I want to volunteer.

Just leave your number lor. When your temple asks u to come, u say not free. When they never ask u to come, u come and help wash lor.

When the temple asks u why u always come when they didnt call u, u reply this…

“I come to help old auntie wash plates one, who say I come to help temple?”

TS’ compassion should not be taken granted

 

[focus1974]

even volunteers got different levels.

yup.

Those patrons... highest level.. no need chut money or physical work, just chut face.

I ask AI .. AI also know got different level ... only daft humans(most) cannot see. AI really is smarter.

Volunteer Level	Primary Role & Effort	The 'Prizes' (What They Get)
1. The Patron	(The Platinum Hand-Waver): Absolutely zero effort. Their name is a shiny, non-biodegradable resource.	The Zenith: Prime seating at the gala, a personalized plaque, unlimited photo-ops, their 'impact' celebrated in the Annual Report, and the blissful knowledge that they 'care' without ever breaking a sweat.
2. The Honorary Chair	(The Signature Setter): Minimal effort. Attends one key press conference, signs a letterhead, and offers "strategic advice" (i.e., asks someone else to do the strategy).	The Gold Pass: Invitations to select high-level meetings (the ones with the good coffee), a slightly smaller nameplate than the Patron, and a LinkedIn post that calls them a "Visionary Leader."
3. The Steering Committee	(The 'Ideas' Person): Moderate effort. Spends hours in meetings debating font choices, scheduling conflicts, and whether to use the word "synergy." Delegates all actual work.	The Silver Platter: Endless, self-important titles on email signatures, a designated 'VIP' section at events, and the right to critique the physical labour crew's work without having to do any of it.
4. The Task Force Leader	(The Report Writer): High, non-physical effort. Manages the flow of information, creates PowerPoint slides, and ensures all 'deliverables' are on time (by nagging the people doing the work).	The Bronze Star: A slightly higher-quality polo shirt than the lowest rung, a specific mention (name spelled correctly) in the closing speech, and the opportunity to feel superior to those below.
5. The General Volunteer	(The 'Engaged' Workforce): High, flexible effort. Does whatever is asked: phone banking, envelope stuffing, running errands. They are told they are the "Heartbeat of the Initiative."	The Goodie Bag: A lanyard, an energy bar that expired last month, a coupon for a local business they'll never use, and maybe a photo with the Honorary Chair if they're lucky and stand near the back.
6. The Physical Labour Volunteer	(The Human Mule): Maximum, back-breaking effort. Lifting, setting up, tearing down, standing in the rain. They are told their "Dedication is Unmatched."	The Bottom of the Barrel: A sincere (but quickly forgotten) "thank you," a cheap buffet that runs out of salad first, and the ultimate prize: sore muscles and the vague promise of a better world.

 

[Lifetime warranty]

yes and no. volunteer is both "got time then help", but when u are there, u are expected to give it your all and not half ass it thru.

there are different levels of volunteers, some are adhoc and some are perm contributors.

so it depends on what level do u wanna volunteer on. I'd done perm mostly and yes, commitment level is crazy high, but satisfaction of seeing those deserving getting the required help is there.

why not put those muscles to use? find out where requires adhoc help, where requires adhoc and time-stretch committed help. plan your time around it.

Volunteer = a person who does something, esp. for other people or for an organization, willingly and without being forced or paid to do it:

Without being force.. so force to do it at the time they need is it still volunteer..

I go gym now..

 

[blankies]

Then another auntie told me u must leave ur hp to the incharge, u want to do volunteer is like that one, we tell u what time come, u must help. Volunteer is like that one.

I'm not leaving my number cause I only help when I'm free. Who say I want to volunteer.

Understand ts type. It's normal.
Got those who can commit and those who cannot due to work.
Its norm.


Many soup kitchen accept walk in help.
Just walk in sign up and help.

 

[qhong61]

Then another auntie told me u must leave ur hp to the incharge, u want to do volunteer is like that one, we tell u what time come, u must help. Volunteer is like that one.

I'm not leaving my number cause I only help when I'm free. Who say I want to volunteer.

Cos they have a roster.
What for too many at same time.
And other time no body.

 

[Emperor_Hippo]

yup.

Those patrons... highest level.. no need chut money or physical work, just chut face.

I ask AI .. AI also know got different level ... only daft humans(most) cannot see. AI really is smarter.

Volunteer Level	Primary Role & Effort	The 'Prizes' (What They Get)
1. The Patron	(The Platinum Hand-Waver): Absolutely zero effort. Their name is a shiny, non-biodegradable resource.	The Zenith: Prime seating at the gala, a personalized plaque, unlimited photo-ops, their 'impact' celebrated in the Annual Report, and the blissful knowledge that they 'care' without ever breaking a sweat.
2. The Honorary Chair	(The Signature Setter): Minimal effort. Attends one key press conference, signs a letterhead, and offers "strategic advice" (i.e., asks someone else to do the strategy).	The Gold Pass: Invitations to select high-level meetings (the ones with the good coffee), a slightly smaller nameplate than the Patron, and a LinkedIn post that calls them a "Visionary Leader."
3. The Steering Committee	(The 'Ideas' Person): Moderate effort. Spends hours in meetings debating font choices, scheduling conflicts, and whether to use the word "synergy." Delegates all actual work.	The Silver Platter: Endless, self-important titles on email signatures, a designated 'VIP' section at events, and the right to critique the physical labour crew's work without having to do any of it.
4. The Task Force Leader	(The Report Writer): High, non-physical effort. Manages the flow of information, creates PowerPoint slides, and ensures all 'deliverables' are on time (by nagging the people doing the work).	The Bronze Star: A slightly higher-quality polo shirt than the lowest rung, a specific mention (name spelled correctly) in the closing speech, and the opportunity to feel superior to those below.
5. The General Volunteer	(The 'Engaged' Workforce): High, flexible effort. Does whatever is asked: phone banking, envelope stuffing, running errands. They are told they are the "Heartbeat of the Initiative."	The Goodie Bag: A lanyard, an energy bar that expired last month, a coupon for a local business they'll never use, and maybe a photo with the Honorary Chair if they're lucky and stand near the back.
6. The Physical Labour Volunteer	(The Human Mule): Maximum, back-breaking effort. Lifting, setting up, tearing down, standing in the rain. They are told their "Dedication is Unmatched."	The Bottom of the Barrel: A sincere (but quickly forgotten) "thank you," a cheap buffet that runs out of salad first, and the ultimate prize: sore muscles and the vague promise of a better world.

i think i know what you had been feeding in as a prompt and training liao.

 

[Balian]

The 80yo auntie is very nice. The rest quite gossipy. Can see got politics one leh. I don't like that environment.

which organization don't have politics

 

[Lchlch]

Then another auntie told me u must leave ur hp to the incharge, u want to do volunteer is like that one, we tell u what time come, u must help. Volunteer is like that one.

I'm not leaving my number cause I only help when I'm free. Who say I want to volunteer.

It is good to help out at the monestery .
I ever too from 9am to around 4pm.

 

[Emperor_Hippo]

Volunteer = a person who does something, esp. for other people or for an organization, willingly and without being forced or paid to do it:

Without being force.. so force to do it at the time they need is it still volunteer..

I go gym now..

i think u have to understand the definition of "force".

cos I had people asking me if I am being forced by a certain, relatively nefarious organization, to do what i do.

i looked at the guy in the eye, explained to him straight that what I am doing is purely helping him and his family under no behest or purpose or force. i willingly signed up for that shiet, I don't get paid, i need to burn my off days and family time to sit there to have an intimate conversation with him on his situation because he trusted my VWO to assist, and I trust him to tell me the truth so I could write a detailed report on all his circumstances to allow him to get the maximum help he needs.

Not sure what he thought of it after that. i handed my report in, that is all. my job's done.

 

[Linguist]

Then another auntie told me u must leave ur hp to the incharge, u want to do volunteer is like that one, we tell u what time come, u must help. Volunteer is like that one.

I'm not leaving my number cause I only help when I'm free. Who say I want to volunteer.

"Must help"?
Did u give the auntie ur middle finger?

That's not volunteering anymore...
It's forced labour!!

i think u have to understand the definition of "force".

cos I had people asking me if I am being forced by a certain, relatively nefarious organization, to do what i do.

i looked at the guy in the eye, explained to him straight that what I am doing is purely helping him and his family under no behest or purpose or force. i willingly signed up for that shiet, I don't get paid, i need to burn my off days and family time to sit there to have an intimate conversation with him on his situation because he trusted my VWO to assist, and I trust him to tell me the truth so I could write a detailed report on all his circumstances to allow him to get the maximum help he needs.

Not sure what he thought of it after that. i handed my report in, that is all. my job's done.

What is VWO

 

[qhong61]

which organization don't have politics

Church goers are angels

 

[Emperor_Hippo]

"Must help"?
Did u give the auntie ur middle finger?

That's not volunteering anymore...
It's forced labour!!

he can choose not to come in when he's called.

there are different levels of volunteering except some requires extra time commitment.

and frankly speaking, if the 80yr old ah ma washing dishes truly understood the whole shebang of things, she won't be washing dishes but at least a volunteer administrator.

 

[Nevereatrice]

temple is rich enough to stay landed volunteer for what. unless u want use their influence social circle no agenda volunteer for what

 

[AlmightyOnes]

积功德人人要呢

Then better to donate dish washer machine leh, when needs washing, some1 use the machine, you earning passive merit. Same for build roads, sch, tree for people.

 

[Linguist]

he can choose not to come in when he's called.

there are different levels of volunteering except some requires extra time commitment.

and frankly speaking, if the 80yr old ah ma washing dishes truly understood the whole shebang of things, she won't be washing dishes but at least a volunteer administrator.

Nope... that ah ma just taking chances for dummies to "volunteer"... guilt trap people... etc etc etc...

But then TS put auntie why u put ah ma? U referring to a different episode?