Digital TV (DVB T2) in Singapore [consolidated]

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Thanks!

It seems this news is targeting those with StarHub’s HD Interactive or HubStation HD set-top box...

I am looking news that mention TV with DVB-C tuner or 'TV with right digital tuner'....or non subscriber can access through HDB TV point on the wall...

Can help to point me :D

i didn't see any official statement that inform the public on FTA HD channels on DVB-C but since starhub's HD STB is using DVB-C, those users with such tuners will able to receive as long the channel is un-encrypted~

the starhub article said on 28 Aug, they would make 3 FTA HD channels (8, Suria, Vasan) available w/o additional cost and that was how we hv tested and confirmed we are able to receive the channels~ :s22:
 

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i didn't see any official statement that inform the public on FTA HD channels on DVB-C but since starhub's HD STB is using DVB-C, those users with such tuners will able to receive as long the channel is un-encrypted~

the starhub article said on 28 Aug, they would make 3 FTA HD channels (8, Suria, Vasan) available w/o additional cost and that was how we hv tested and confirmed we are able to receive the channels~ :s22:

It's a pity that they didn't make any official announcement, or more people will benefit as they don't need to waste money on new tv or get DVB-T2 tuner/antenna if their existing tv have DVB-C tuner
 

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It's a pity that they didn't make any official announcement, or more people will benefit as they don't need to waste money on new tv or get DVB-T2 tuner/antenna if their existing tv have DVB-C tuner
I think if they were to make an offcial announcement on DVB-C, it will cause many confusion among peoples since they might be confused whether to get DVB-C or DVB-T2 TV/set top box.
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I think if they were to make an offcial announcement on DVB-C, it will cause many confusion among peoples since they might be confused whether to get DVB-C or DVB-T2 TV/set top box.
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just because they afraid to cause confusion, they making people wasting hundred and thousands of dollars per household...can't imagine how many millions wasted overall for whole singapore....don't think that is right way of doing thing.

anyway, getting DVB-C or DVB-T2 is only 2 choices...quite straight forward, shouldn't be confusing for any adult... :s13:
 

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just because they afraid to cause confusion, they making people wasting hundred and thousands of dollars per household...can't imagine how many millions wasted overall for whole singapore....don't think that is right way of doing thing.

anyway, getting DVB-C or DVB-T2 is only 2 choices...quite straight forward, shouldn't be confusing for any adult... :s13:

Actually they can choose to make a digital ready label only for TV models that have both standards, rather than just T2 like what we have at the moment. T2 only or C TVs will not get any label.

Shouldn't be too difficult since almost all TVs with T2 will already have C, and this should force Samsung to unlock the C tuner for Singapore.
 

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just because they afraid to cause confusion, they making people wasting hundred and thousands of dollars per household...can't imagine how many millions wasted overall for whole singapore....don't think that is right way of doing thing.

anyway, getting DVB-C or DVB-T2 is only 2 choices...quite straight forward, shouldn't be confusing for any adult... :s13:

i would think MDA made a wrong move~ they shld made manufacturers to bring in TVs with DVB-T2 & C as a standard for new TV sets in the first place~ like europe where they hv DVB-T2, C & S2 as common features for new tvs~

now that they had campaigning for dvb-t2 for 1 yr, it's kinda like shooting themselves if they say there's a better option which already existed long ago & w/o the need of antenna to get HD channels~
 

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Actually they can choose to make a digital ready label only for TV models that have both standards, rather than just T2 like what we have at the moment. T2 only or C TVs will not get any label.

Shouldn't be too difficult since almost all TVs with T2 will already have C, and this should force Samsung to unlock the C tuner for Singapore.

Agree with you. The hands off approach is confusing and not helpful. So many consumers supported Digital with T2 but connected to starhub cable antenna. A waste of their money.
 

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for those who already have a TV with built-in DVT-T2 tuner, and just looking for an indoor antenna can consider this model posted by LxIxVxE.

Below are my result from Bishan, I'm using Sony 55W904A.

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I don't see much on the performance, so far only noticed that the previous firmware do not have Singapore in the country list now got.

just got a set which have pre-installed with this version.

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Any bro also order cheap n good non powered antenna for the tv tuner? Can recommend good one thx
 

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Good DIY antenna

Any bro also order cheap n good non powered antenna for the tv tuner? Can recommend good one thx

Can consider making a simple DIY fractal antenna that works really well in my own experience. Just 10 mins or less, most materials already have around the house: A4 paper, clear plastic sheet (I recycled from front cover of old report with binding), kitchen aluminium foil, glue stick, 2 small screws like those used in PC DIY.

The 75-300 ohm balun transformer is the only item that may not possibly be readily available: can get one for $5 from 2nd floor audio/mic shop at Sim Lim Tower (maybe even cheaper from other shops). You can Google the image to show the shop owners. I also saw a cheap $3.20 dipole antenna at Sheng Siong (maybe even cheaper at neighbourhood stores) that you can dismantle to use the balun transformer. Better if still got old antenna lying around to be salvaged without spending a cent!

I was very skeptical that such a simple non-powered antenna, that costs zero to a few dollars to make, can have decent performance. But wow, it picked up all the local DVB-T2 and DVB-T channels with signal intensity 80+ to 99% and signal quality about 98%; video & audio both very smooth (as good or better than from Starhub cable point) even for HD channels like HD5 & HD8. Only thing is I have to place mine right next to window (I think my area not indoor reception-ready yet). If antenna cable not long enough, can join up shorter cables using adapters ($2-3 at hardware stores) without having to buy a new long cable.

No harm trying this super cheap yet good method. I also tried another DIY method using CD case and binder clips, it could receive signals but choppy video for HD channels. Have fun!
 

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Can consider making a simple DIY fractal antenna that works really well in my own experience. Just 10 mins or less, most materials already have around the house: A4 paper, clear plastic sheet (I recycled from front cover of old report with binding), kitchen aluminium foil, glue stick, 2 small screws like those used in PC DIY.

The 75-300 ohm balun transformer is the only item that may not possibly be readily available: can get one for $5 from 2nd floor audio/mic shop at Sim Lim Tower (maybe even cheaper from other shops). You can Google the image to show the shop owners. I also saw a cheap $3.20 dipole antenna at Sheng Siong (maybe even cheaper at neighbourhood stores) that you can dismantle to use the balun transformer. Better if still got old antenna lying around to be salvaged without spending a cent!

I was very skeptical that such a simple non-powered antenna, that costs zero to a few dollars to make, can have decent performance. But wow, it picked up all the local DVB-T2 and DVB-T channels with signal intensity 80+ to 99% and signal quality about 98%; video & audio both very smooth (as good or better than from Starhub cable point) even for HD channels like HD5 & HD8. Only thing is I have to place mine right next to window (I think my area not indoor reception-ready yet). If antenna cable not long enough, can join up shorter cables using adapters ($2-3 at hardware stores) without having to buy a new long cable.

No harm trying this super cheap yet good method. I also tried another DIY method using CD case and binder clips, it could receive signals but choppy video for HD channels. Have fun!
Hey thanks going to try it when I free.. Cheers
 

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Thanks iceman .. i almost done up my fractal antenna and looking for balun RCA connect..

searching around my store room i found one copper wire type of antenna wanna cut out the plug to join to my antenna but i think why not try out the antenna.. Plug it to the digital tuner all channels 100% signal strength.... :s13::s13: wasted my effort on the handicraft...

 

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Check with u guys.. Is channel u in HD? The channel is 522mhz right
 

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searching around my store room i found one copper wire type of antenna wanna cut out the plug to join to my antenna but i think why not try out the antenna.. Plug it to the digital tuner all channels 100% signal strength.... :s13::s13: wasted my effort on the handicraft...

I read that copper wire is best when making DIY antenna and sometimes one's location is good enough that even a piece of bare copper wire does the trick! Which makes you realise how much the antenna manufacturers are ripping consumers off with claims about the performance of their expensive "HD" or "fully digital" antennas. Even if the customer gives priority to aesthetics and wants a beautiful antenna, it's only a paperweight if can't perform at all! Problem only if your family is the kind to nag about ugly equipment and messy wiring :)

Nah, don't think u wasted your effort as your design looks really cool and can be a conversation piece for your visitors! Some people on internet even make DIY antennas to sell. Making stuff with your hands is also good stress relief!
 

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StarHub channel 981 has moved to channel 155, which means now HD5 on Starhub has the subtitles option.
 

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StarHub channel 981 has moved to channel 155, which means now HD5 on Starhub has the subtitles option.

Really? So it's now receiving from DVB-T2 signal and not DVB-T? Any frequency changes to non starbub box users?
 

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Really? So it's now receiving from DVB-T2 signal and not DVB-T? Any frequency changes to non starbub box users?

No, the DVB-T2 signal is still broadcasting in the air. What chakuman is referring to, is the DVB-C signal carried by the StarHub TV point.
 
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