[First time DIY] Need advise to buy

jack-320

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My 6.75 years old aftershock motherboard died, aftershock said motherboard is no longer available

So below is the following to recycle
- mSATA SSD ==> recycle, need to buy mSATA to SATA adapter to recover stored data & to use as boot drive
-2.5”“ HDD ==> recycle, need to buy 2.5” to 3.5” adapter to recover data

GPU won‘t buy due to crazy price...

So need the following
*Motherboard - MSI B560M Pro-VDH Wifi
*CPU - Intel i7 (PC Theme told me some intel CPU have integrated graphics card, so can use for view email, word, excel only..so ok for me which I need)
*4TB HDD for file storage
*1TB SATA SSD for game storage
*RAM - 16GB (minimum) or 32GB (future proof)?
*PSU - Gold (to last for 10 years and can reuse for next upgrade)
*Case - most likely LianLi O11 mini
(EDIT) fans?

I have retail windows key

Need WiFi as my room as no ethernet cable

Usage: get ready for 3060 Ti GTX or equivalent, not hardcore gamer, min 60fps 1920x1080 for Monster Hunter World high setting is sufficient

Anything I need to take note of?

*budget - try $1000 as base? Since GPU is out of the picture. May need to rise but only if valid (qualify PSU, RAM for example)

Thanks for helping as I am first timer want to DIY own desktop
 
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you already know what to get

for hdd get 8tb wd external. they are cmr and really fast.

ram you wont future proof because ddr5 coming next year. so you wont use for following pc.

nvme is similar price to sata if you look at amazon.sg. not sure why you want slower sata

cpu try to find amd apu if in stock. vega graphics can play games at 1080p low.

even lowest end 3000G
 
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Might as well get NVMe SSD instead of SATA if price is similar.

Not sure if Intel 10th and 11th gen got too much difference. Stay away from F versions with no integrated graphics.

Fans need to buy RGB, since you spent too much on the case. Deepcool CF120 3 pack cheapest RGB fan I can find. If not go Amazon buy Arctic F12/P12 PWM pack for cheaper.

Also, keep in mind your motherboard choice will affect your CPU performance.

 
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If u have a limited budget and want to save for ur gpu, i recommend u don't go for lian li o11 mini, it is not cheap and it requires an sfx psu which is not cheap either. And then u must buy some fans for air flow.

But if u r still set on the case then i recommend corsair's SF750 (~249 sgd) for the psu, good enough for ur build, dunno if it will be enough wattage for ur next upgrade down the road since u want it to last 10 years. Cooler master also has cheaper 750/850W sfx psu worth taking a look, but do read up reviews on it, i think it used to have fan noise issue, not sure if this is fixed.

Fans u can choose the non rgb but good for value arctic P12 fans or the popular lian li SL120 rgb fans (~23sgd), or even corsair QL120 also can if u feelin rich. Personally i used both P12 and SL120 so i can attest to their quality, its pretty good for the price.

Also, use an m.2 nvme ssd instead of sata drive for ur game storage since the prices are so similar already.
 

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Thanks for advise and suggestions

I will review what I need again, most likely will change motherboard, case and SSD (to m2)
 

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IMO get a 3400G if you plan on gaming in the next couple years cos we don't know when the GPU shortage will end so no point waiting. Could be waiting for 2-3 years before you can get a graphics card at sane prices.
 

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Ok so I went sim lim again, asked some shops for recommendations

also read the comments here

had came to conclusion

this build should be ok?
Motherboard: Asus TUF Gaming B560M Plus wifi
CPU: i7 11700
RAM: Corsair 3200hz 2x 8GB
GPU: (wait until next year LOL, ASUS TUF 3070 last seen selling at $2250)
PSU: Corsair RM Gold 650 or 750?
SSD (d drive) - store games: Samsung Evo 970 1TB m2
HDD (E drive) - store data, photos, etc: Toshiba 3.5” 4TB
case: cooler master NR400

*c drive reuse msata, if cannot run with new motherboard then buy 500gb SSD
*Reuse previous 2.5“ HDD to connect

*external HDD (purchase separately) will be used as backup for d drive

*checked AMD integrated graphic card, but do not support newer motherboard

i would want m-atx build because ATX build/case is bulky generally
while lian li o11 mini can fit ATX motherboard, the concern is the price. Case is really not cheap, hence change to NR400, hope NR400 can last for a very long time/buy once and forget

NR400 comes with free fan
 
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For those two drives, mSATA and 2.5".
Recommend get either a SSD or HDD, transfer whatever files on it there.
Age of the drives is a issue you never know when these old drives will die
so best to change.

For desktop wise, best use a regular 3.5" HDD than 2.5".
Given the price of GPU now, I rather you buy a prebuild PC instead.
Like Lenovo Legion desktop, you add HDD/SSD to it no issue.

Or a gaming notebook, than those two drives, backup to a external hard disk.
 

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For those two drives, mSATA and 2.5".
Recommend get either a SSD or HDD, transfer whatever files on it there.
Age of the drives is a issue you never know when these old drives will die
so best to change.

For desktop wise, best use a regular 3.5" HDD than 2.5".
Given the price of GPU now, I rather you buy a prebuild PC instead.
Like Lenovo Legion desktop, you add HDD/SSD to it no issue.

Or a gaming notebook, than those two drives, backup to a external hard disk.
ok will get new 500GB SSD as C drive

msata and 2.5” to transfer whatever data there to new SSD and HDD, yes you are right the drives are old, I don’t know if they will die some day

i need to use for things like outlook, excel, word, those productivity tools

so gaming is not a priority, GPU not considering to buy as the price is really insane. PC theme, dynacore, all the same insane GPU price even for previous gen GPU

had considered prebuild but nope...would like to DIY for after using prebuild in the past
 

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If you can wait, you can build a AMD Ryzen 5400G APU PC instead.
At least you still can game but on low settings.
Ok so I went sim lim again, asked some shops for recommendations

also read the comments here

had came to conclusion

this build should be ok?
Motherboard: Asus TUF Gaming B560M Plus wifi
CPU: i7 11700
RAM: Corsair 3200hz 2x 8GB
GPU: (wait until next year LOL, ASUS TUF 3070 last seen selling at $2250)
PSU: Corsair RM Gold 650 or 750?
SSD (d drive) - store games: Samsung Evo 970 1TB m2
HDD (E drive) - store data, photos, etc: Toshiba 3.5” 4TB
case: cooler master NR400

*c drive reuse msata, if cannot run with new motherboard then buy 500gb SSD
*Reuse previous 2.5“ HDD to connect

*external HDD (purchase separately) will be used as backup for d drive

*checked AMD integrated graphic card, but do not support newer motherboard

i would want m-atx build because ATX build/case is bulky generally
while lian li o11 mini can fit ATX motherboard, the concern is the price. Case is really not cheap, hence change to NR400, hope NR400 can last for a very long time/buy once and forget

NR400 comes with free fan


Motherboard: Asus TUF Gaming B560M Plus wifi
CPU: i7 11700
RAM: Corsair 3200hz 2x 8GB
GPU: (wait until next year LOL, ASUS TUF 3070 last seen selling at $2250)
PSU: Corsair RM Gold 650 or 750?
SSD (d drive) - store games: Samsung Evo 970 1TB m2
HDD (E drive) - store data, photos, etc: Toshiba 3.5” 4TB
case: cooler master NR400

CPU wise I feel i5 will be more than enough seriously but it's up to you.
PSU wise recommend go for Seasonic Focus GX-750/850 watt as RTX3070 needs at least 700 watt.
Casing also have size like ITX, mini Tower, Mid Tower and Full Tower so Mid Tower will do fine for you.

Take note Coolermaster have release new cases recently, you can consider them than the NR400
as it is a basic mini tower case.
Maybe MB600L V2 at $79. (This is newly release casing)

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Ok so I went sim lim again, asked some shops for recommendations

also read the comments here

had came to conclusion

this build should be ok?
Motherboard: Asus TUF Gaming B560M Plus wifi
CPU: i7 11700
RAM: Corsair 3200hz 2x 8GB
GPU: (wait until next year LOL, ASUS TUF 3070 last seen selling at $2250)
PSU: Corsair RM Gold 650 or 750?
SSD (d drive) - store games: Samsung Evo 970 1TB m2
HDD (E drive) - store data, photos, etc: Toshiba 3.5” 4TB
case: cooler master NR400

*c drive reuse msata, if cannot run with new motherboard then buy 500gb SSD
*Reuse previous 2.5“ HDD to connect

*external HDD (purchase separately) will be used as backup for d drive

*checked AMD integrated graphic card, but do not support newer motherboard

i would want m-atx build because ATX build/case is bulky generally
while lian li o11 mini can fit ATX motherboard, the concern is the price. Case is really not cheap, hence change to NR400, hope NR400 can last for a very long time/buy once and forget

NR400 comes with free fan
I think this is a decent recommendation that will last you at least 5 - 6 years and is not over-buying.

For GPU, since you're not hardcore gaming, why not consider the RTX 3060 or the RX 6700XT? I think those are OK-priced and will also last you about the same amount of time as this CPU and mobo.
 

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I am quite worried when people assume that hardware nowadays can be future proof for x number of years. For example, in the past there isn't much of a competition in the CPU space, so you get incremental improvements from Intel year after year, and nothing from AMD. In recent years, this is not the case and we see fairly big jumps in performance each year. So my take is if you want to futureproof a system, you will need to manage your expectations on it. Even a RTX 3080 can be obsolete in a year or 2 if you want to game at high resolution, game settings and high frame rates all the time.

Having said that, if you are hunting for a GPU, I recommend you just get everything (bundle deal) at one go either from a SLS store or just from Aftershock. To be honest, there is no guarantee that the GPU drought will go away this year or the next. I do observe prices have dropped a little from their all time high, but not sure if that trend will sustain. I certainly hope it would, but again, I am only human and can't foresee the future.
 
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