Going Japan this Oct-Dec?

[KyushuWoozy]

Thailand was doing quite well until they opened their door slightly.

Yes, that's the problem, it's a difficult balancing act. You can't keep the borders closed for ever but opening them brings the danger of imported infection. Hopefully as the testing technology improves and the vaccine rollout continues worldwide things will start to open up.

 

[purpleberry]

Yes, that's the problem, it's a difficult balancing act. You can't keep the borders closed for ever but opening them brings the danger of imported infection. Hopefully as the testing technology improves and the vaccine rollout continues worldwide things will start to open up.

Any local reports on where most covid cases originate from? By now there are some places that can be classified as hotpots like gyms, small izakayas, karaoke bars, etc?

 

[KyushuWoozy]

My father-in-law (who watches the news here endlessly) claims you'll be fine as long as you stay away from hospitals, care homes and don't drink or dine out with people outside your household ... and wear a mask and sanitize hands which EVERYONE in Japan seems to do anyway

 

[darkmatt]

My father-in-law (who watches the news here endlessly) claims you'll be fine as long as you stay away from hospitals, care homes and don't drink or dine out with people outside your household ... and wear a mask and sanitize hands which EVERYONE in Japan seems to do anyway

Which to be fair is working i guess.. Japan more population than france and UKcombined yet has many times less cases than those two.

 

[luishoon]

Any local reports on where most covid cases originate from? By now there are some places that can be classified as hotpots like gyms, small izakayas, karaoke bars, etc?

its actally quite hard to track. like yesterday in Kyoto where I am living, 50percent of the 140 cases are untrackable...and osaka is having 1.2k plus everyday so..

plus its the golden week this week. from the news, it seems that the reservation tickets for shinkansen has not dropped at all

 

[purpleberry]

My father-in-law (who watches the news here endlessly) claims you'll be fine as long as you stay away from hospitals, care homes and don't drink or dine out with people outside your household ... and wear a mask and sanitize hands which EVERYONE in Japan seems to do anyway

Yes, wise words. I have been watching those walk-around videos and the situation is still very relaxed. Ueno appears like its not affected by the pandemic. Small restaurants and cafes are all full with no social distancing.

its actally quite hard to track. like yesterday in Kyoto where I am living, 50percent of the 140 cases are untrackable...and osaka is having 1.2k plus everyday so..

plus its the golden week this week. from the news, it seems that the reservation tickets for shinkansen has not dropped at all

Golden week might trigger a spike if they carry around viruses to their hometowns.

 

[patryn33]

Vaccine rollout also slow, family calling to schedule but line always busy. One relative got through and her first shot is scheduled in mid sept

 

[luishoon]

Yes, wise words. I have been watching those walk-around videos and the situation is still very relaxed. Ueno appears like its not affected by the pandemic. Small restaurants and cafes are all full with no social distancing.


Golden week might trigger a spike if they carry around viruses to their hometowns.

yeah. spiked like no tomorrow.
Its 7k plus new cases here today....

 

[rrr2015]

omg! India-Japan travel bubble still not halted? what are they thinking?

 

[patryn33]

omg! India-Japan travel bubble still not halted? what are they thinking?

Only citizens and ppl with certain VISA get to travel in and out.

human rights country they wouldn’t stop jap citizens from India coming in.

Look at the recent golden week holiday. Many ppl traveling, is spread due to Indian variation or some other issue?
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2021/05/e77a6faf4623-coronavirus-outbreak-latest-may-9-2021.html

 

[patryn33]

yeah. spiked like no tomorrow.
Its 7k plus new cases here today....

Next day it went down, what’s the hospitalization rate or death rate? Young ppl felt this doesn’t concern them even they caught it. Going to work train is still pack with ppl.

 

[rrr2015]

Only citizens and ppl with certain VISA get to travel in and out.

given the current india covid situation, shouldn't they at least temporary stop this passage to migitate risks?

human rights country they wouldn’t stop jap citizens from India coming in.

is australia human rights country too? they stopping Australian from coming back from india lolz

Look at the recent golden week holiday. Many ppl traveling, is spread due to Indian variation or some other issue?
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2021/05/e77a6faf4623-coronavirus-outbreak-latest-may-9-2021.html

imho all variants spread & multiply quickly if infected people aren't quickly detected & isolated. i think current Japan contact tracing isn't efficient or even working?

slow vaccine rollout also add on to their woes. i read they haven't completed vaccination of all their medical workers?

 

[patryn33]

given the current india covid situation, shouldn't they at least temporary stop this passage to migitate risks?

good question for the Jap gov.

is australia human rights country too? they stopping Australian from coming back from india lolz

That's is heavily debated item on human rights. diff country can practice varying degree of human rights.

At min they doing this now
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/...-of-foreigners-from-india-pakistan-nepal.html

imho all variants spread & multiply quickly if infected people aren't quickly detected & isolated. i think current Japan contact tracing isn't efficient or even working?

slow vaccine rollout also add on to their woes. i read they haven't completed vaccination of all their medical workers?

its a known fact their contact tracing isnt working. citizen also qns their own gov and foreigners also qns them. U have seen it in the political world even in Singapore, whats the results?

 

[KyushuWoozy]

patryn33 said:
Only citizens and ppl with certain VISA get to travel in and out.

given the current india covid situation, shouldn't they at least temporary stop this passage to migitate risks?

They heard you: "Japan to ban foreign residents who traveled to India, Nepal and Pakistan"

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/05/12/national/india-pakistan-nepal-japan-ban/

 

[rrr2015]

At min they doing this now
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/...-of-foreigners-from-india-pakistan-nepal.html

better late than never. but it's just 6 days (normal 3 days) designated facilities & 14 days self quarantine. i read many don't follow rules during self quarantine. Compared to Australia, Taiwan which have 14 days quarantine in designated facilities, their rules seems too lax.

its a known fact their contact tracing isnt working. citizen also qns their own gov and foreigners also qns them. U have seen it in the political world even in Singapore, whats the results?

imho contact tracing a important tool for crisis management team to have overview of situation. without these data, it will be difficult make decisions on where to focus or needing more stringent controls. so contact tracing alone doesn't do much if there are no followup action.

 

[rrr2015]

given the current india covid situation, shouldn't they at least temporary stop this passage to migitate risks?

They heard you: "Japan to ban foreign residents who traveled to India, Nepal and Pakistan"

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/05/12/national/india-pakistan-nepal-japan-ban/

hahaha what a coincidence!

 

[purpleberry]

better late than never. but it's just 6 days (normal 3 days) designated facilities & 14 days self quarantine. i read many don't follow rules during self quarantine. Compared to Australia, Taiwan which have 14 days quarantine in designated facilities, their rules seems too lax.


imho contact tracing a important tool for crisis management team to have overview of situation. without these data, it will be difficult make decisions on where to focus or needing more stringent controls. so contact tracing alone doesn't do much if there are no followup action.

given the current india covid situation, shouldn't they at least temporary stop this passage to migitate risks?

They heard you: "Japan to ban foreign residents who traveled to India, Nepal and Pakistan"

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/05/12/national/india-pakistan-nepal-japan-ban/

At least they do one very right thing now. Meanwhile in Changi Airport.

 

[patryn33]

given the current india covid situation, shouldn't they at least temporary stop this passage to migitate risks?

They heard you: "Japan to ban foreign residents who traveled to India, Nepal and Pakistan"

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/05/12/national/india-pakistan-nepal-japan-ban/

Lol, did not fully address the issue right?
“Japanese nationals returning from those countries will still be allowed to re-enter Japan, the government announced Wednesday night.”

 

[patryn33]

better late than never. but it's just 6 days (normal 3 days) designated facilities & 14 days self quarantine. i read many don't follow rules during self quarantine. Compared to Australia, Taiwan which have 14 days quarantine in designated facilities, their rules seems too lax.

trust like USA!

 

[darkmatt]

Lol, did not fully address the issue right?
“Japanese nationals returning from those countries will still be allowed to re-enter Japan, the government announced Wednesday night.”

if you as a citizen of country Z cannot return to your own country when stuck elsewhere, how would u feel?

The passport you hold should allow you to return to your own country in any circumstance.

Correct me if i am wrong, but so far, all restrictions dont apply to own citizens/PR.

Even australia is allowing their own people back in limited numbers. (while closing borders fully to the rest of the world)