if Liu Bei manage to win against Wu , u all think got chance unified China or not.

[Zangief]

though the population size and resource is still heavily in favor of CC, but he will have Jing Zhou, much easier to launch invasion against Chang-An and manage supply route also , for defence also got YangTze river and the mountainous Cheng-Du region.

wad u all think ?

 

[itedino]

He so weak. If he unified, next generation also died down.

First many Indian chief around

2nd Zhang fei and guan Yu son and grand kids all yaya papaya try to rule as long and Liu bei and Liu Shan weak. Sure empower them their own army

Difficult la

 

[obsceneK2]

Nope. Dun think so. The moment Sun Quan broke alliance with Liu Bei. Both of them got no chance liao.

Wei too big for either one of them to eat.

 

[Lifetime warranty]

No.. smelly smelly have too much power, money and resources.. it like if you scholars you will join pap or wp.. you see in the end.. liu bei group no good general etc..

 

[focus1974]

from the drama, liu bei is too passive.. being led under the nose by zhugeliang

caocao is leadership material.. .. ownself know what to do.. and then delegate to subordinate to execute

 

[tidiii]

though the population size and resource is still heavily in favor of CC, but he will have Jing Zhou, much easier to launch invasion against Chang-An and manage supply route also , for defence also got YangTze river and the mountainous Cheng-Du region.

wad u all think ?

nope

historically shu greatest chance to win was actually after he passed. zgl had a chance but was summoned back

from the drama, liu bei is too passive.. being led under the nose by zhugeliang

caocao is leadership material.. .. ownself know what to do.. and then delegate to subordinate to execute

he cant even win sima yi, what makes u think if no zgl, he can win
besides the establishment of 3 kingdom was ultimately zgl plan also

lui bei would have never established shu if not for zgl and wei historically just turtle up nia

 

[barbaricboon]

Unfortunately, both WU and SHU internally got to appease the local traditional clan/family. If Shu takeover Wu, need a strong administrator/leader to control.

And horses supply usually came from the north, Wei zone. Shu protected by terrain while Wu protected by great river from Wei Calvary. I believed there is a YouTube channel using China terrain to explain why certain battle took place during 3 kingdom and why it failed

 

[zoossh]

though the population size and resource is still heavily in favor of CC, but he will have Jing Zhou, much easier to launch invasion against Chang-An and manage supply route also , for defence also got YangTze river and the mountainous Cheng-Du region.

wad u all think ?

No. Because both are foreigners in their domain. Their rules are unstable so unless major mistakes from the enemy, it is not going to happen

 

[Asy1um]

No need think, he too weak, didnt win so cant unified.

 

[Courage]

No chance, he will be severely weakened by then and Wei will still have their massive advantage

 

[kuti-kuti]

Most probably china to this day still a dynasty rule

 

[popsune1]

 

[Soracak]

Once liu bei army gena burn until chao tah at yilin (in romance version that was the battle in revenge for guanyu), his fate was sealed. Yes, if he had won that battle he (or rather zgl since he died shortly after) would have a much better footing against wei, which was at least twice in economic and military power than either of the other two.

So yes, it did not matter after that loss at yilin. In romance, zgl dominated smy but was unlucky. In history, it is probably the reverse and smy was the one holding the cards and planning for the eventual endgame revolt.

 

[Newtype_com]

Unified or not

They will still be here to take your jobs

Don't need to think so much

 

[Can Or Not]

though the population size and resource is still heavily in favor of CC, but he will have Jing Zhou, much easier to launch invasion against Chang-An and manage supply route also , for defence also got YangTze river and the mountainous Cheng-Du region.

wad u all think ?

Yes, they get back Jing Zhou which is the key reason why Zhuge Liang always lose.

 

[TheITGuy]

Nope. Even if they managed to win, 魏 will be 黄雀在后。The 3 powers balanced each others. If ZGL didnt keep on 北伐 and chose to stable internal for a short few years, at the same time train up more 人才，things could be different. If 魏took the chance to attk 吴，would be a risky one also. Back to that era, the supply line is not efficient, especially talking about crossing the river. If 魏 really did try to take down 吴 first, i think the history different liao

 

[I_m_limpeh]

though the population size and resource is still heavily in favor of CC, but he will have Jing Zhou, much easier to launch invasion against Chang-An and manage supply route also , for defence also got YangTze river and the mountainous Cheng-Du region.

wad u all think ?

Shu-Han is deeply overrated in the San Guo Yan Yi novel. In San Guo Zhi actual history, Cao Cao's generals like Cao Ren have beaten Liu Bei's Tiger Generals like Zhao Yun and Guan Yu. Zhuge Liang's first campaign against Wei was was defeated by Cao Zhen, not Sima Yi.

 

[TheITGuy]

from my perspective, even if 曹操 won the 赤壁之战, he might not be hold the ground also due to supply line issue.

 

[0218crawford]

My lao bei passed on not too long ago. No point discussing riao.

 

[Ironside]

liu bei's aim at that time was not to conquer wu. Rather is to make Wu scared and negotiate to give back good terms.