Learning Chinese has become too difficult for kids today, and that’s not okay

[zoossh]

Can read and understand the words, just writing out from memory is harder. I tend to use only very simple/similar meaning words with very few strokes...

Also some of you used traditional chinese characters in your posts... lol.

You do know that on the phone, there is no need to write out the strokes regardless of the fonts right?

You just need to know the pinyin

 

[Rogue]

You do know that on the phone, there is no need to write out the strokes regardless of the fonts right?

You just need to know the pinyin

I'm referring to actual pen and paper directly from memory. "Writing" not finger kung-fu with smartphone... No auto-dictionary or spellcheck.

Ask why people's ability to learn any language is so disgustingly bad? Speak and write with it, not let AI or tools to do it. What's more there are the stupid emojis and corrupted short form use due to tech. E.g Tonight we are having dinner? becomes Nite(EmojiRice)Go?. lol.

 

[BlackWing1977]

they all the same? For my knowledge, 乌龟豆 look abit fat, 四季豆 look more fine and thin, both short as compare to long beans. Or i the one confused？

Long Bean dun have fibrous texture... while french bean does.. but if prep properly.. french bean is more tasty with a crunchy texture...

But if you want to fry omlette, long bean is the one you want to use... and lotong and curry vegetables will alway use long bean cheaper.. can get more mushy.

 

[xcodes]

I looked at the list, and found it totally not difficult at all ... why would the wife and husband find it difficult ...

 

[Joelleyuan]

I looked at the list, and found it totally not difficult at all ... why would the wife and husband find it difficult ...

ya lor, what's wrong with some of you who say until so difficult, simi alien...
not a single word in the list is what I can't read or pronounce.
many are really simple 成語, not even consider cheem.
Maybe it's slightly difficult for Sec 3 students who DON'T LIKE Chinese, but for Sec 4 you should be able to read all the words in that list already.
Sinkies ginna are really hopeless. Their parents too.

 

[Joelleyuan]

getting rid of dialects have made learning mandarin even more difficult imo

Agree.
In fact if you know Cantonese, you'll never be confused when to use 的 or 得 or 地。
Nowadays even MANY Tiongs and Taiwanese dunno how to differentiate. everything also use 的。
freaking terrible and embarrassing.

 

[Nuclear Boy]

Agree.
In fact if you know Cantonese, you'll never be confused when to use 的 or 得 or 地。
Nowadays even MANY Tiongs and Taiwanese dunno how to differentiate. everything also use 的。
freaking terrible and embarrassing.

得就的，没有办法地

 

[mummynew]

How about 薄餅?

since 餅 is a thing, then its bao2.

*taiwanese may pronounce as bo2.

 

[mummynew]

There ish the indirect cursing which takes a while to sink in such as
請問令尊貴姓?

this one is cheem for me.

"问候父亲“？

 

[mummynew]

My niece is weak in Chinese

My niece failed her Chinese in mid year P1 and that was when I brought her under my tuition and began to 'strategise' how to help her. This may sound like a humble brag but after about 4 months of tuition, she got a prize ($50 book voucher) for being 'best improvement' (97/100) at year end and attended prize-giving. This moment I believe motivated her that she was not 'stupid' and capable of learning.

A key to score in Paper 2 is always try to make as many vocab as possible with every new word introduced in a chapter, then start to train the child 'inference' so that he/she has a higher chance to guess the meaning when it combines with other words in a passage. Eg



*take every new word seriously if wanna score.

 

[mummynew]

What are your 'internal voice' when you think?

For me, I think in Mandarin or Hokkien (except for academics or work).

Like if I see a siao lang, my internal voice will be "siao lang" or "疯子“ but never "a crazy man".

All my emotional thoughts or domestic plannings are either in Mandarin or Hokkien = English is sort of my second/third language.

Other eg of my internal thinking: 今晚要炒芥兰还是菜心？菜好贵！

 

[Shion]

What are your 'internal voice' when you think?

For me, I think in Mandarin or Hokkien (except for academics or work).

Like if I see a siao lang, my internal voice will be "siao lang" or "疯子“ but never "a crazy man".

All my emotional thoughts or domestic plannings are either in Mandarin or Hokkien = English is sort of my second/third language.

Other eg of my internal thinking: 今晚要炒芥兰还是菜心？菜好贵！

i think in chinese

 

[JohannSu1864]

My niece failed her Chinese in mid year P1 and that was when I brought her under my tuition and began to 'strategise' how to help her. This may sound like a humble brag but after about 4 months of tuition, she got a prize ($50 book voucher) for being 'best improvement' (97/100) at year end and attended prize-giving. This moment I believe motivated her that she was not 'stupid' and capable of learning.

A key to score in Paper 2 is always try to make as many vocab as possible with every new word introduced in a chapter, then start to train the child 'inference' so that he/she has a higher chance to guess the meaning when it combines with other words in a passage. Eg



*take every new word seriously if wanna score.

Thank you. I feel what you share can inspire n motive many people.

 

[arsenalfc85]

My niece failed her Chinese in mid year P1 and that was when I brought her under my tuition and began to 'strategise' how to help her. This may sound like a humble brag but after about 4 months of tuition, she got a prize ($50 book voucher) for being 'best improvement' (97/100) at year end and attended prize-giving. This moment I believe motivated her that she was not 'stupid' and capable of learning.

A key to score in Paper 2 is always try to make as many vocab as possible with every new word introduced in a chapter, then start to train the child 'inference' so that he/she has a higher chance to guess the meaning when it combines with other words in a passage. Eg



*take every new word seriously if wanna score.

Good way.

but many kids nowadays shut off the moment u speak mandarin to them.

the moment they see Chinese words, auto shut off .

they see a whole passage full of Chinese words. Give up without trying

ask them to write compos, just anyhow write a few sentences with hanyu pinyin n English words sprinkled in between.

how to motivate such kids?

 

[_eMuu_]

This is what you get for importing teachers from china.
Giving they fellow china kids an edge in the race.

 

[TopGun]

Good way.

but many kids nowadays shut off the moment u speak mandarin to them.

the moment they see Chinese words, auto shut off .

they see a whole passage full of Chinese words. Give up without trying

ask them to write compos, just anyhow write a few sentences with hanyu pinyin n English words sprinkled in between.

how to motivate such kids?

How do you expect people to switch from spending 90% of study time reading alphabets to switch to reading a page full of symbols? For most people, their brain can't switch so seamlessly from an alphabetical based language using individual sounds which can be pronounced, to a logographical one whereby the entire word has to be memorized by hard.

26 characters form words versus having to memorize thousands of characters to achieve literacy.

 

[Soracak]

Compared to tw traditional script already sibei discount liao still jjww so much tsk tsk tsk

 

[TopGun]

nowadays students’ brains are all mixed up like glue — they’re forced to learn so many things at once, but nothing properly. all the other subjects are taught in english, so how can they truly learn chinese when there’s no real exposure to it? many parents think speaking english makes them look high-class, while speaking mandarin feels low-class or embarrassing. because of that, they don’t prioritize teaching their children chinese, even though they’re chinese themselves. it’s a mindset issue — when children grow up without using the language, they slowly lose connection to their roots and culture. upbringing makes all the difference.

Why should parents prioritize teaching their kids Chinese because they are Chinese themselves? Many parents today don't even speak the language themselves.

 

[coolad74]

How do you expect people to switch from spending 90% of study time reading alphabets to switch to reading a page full of symbols? For most people, their brain can't switch so seamlessly from an alphabetical based language using individual sounds which can be pronounced, to a logographical one whereby the entire word has to be memorized by hard.

26 characters form words versus having to memorize thousands of characters to achieve literacy.

Excuse Loh, 50years ago, no such issues leh. Now is rampant, not just Chinese hor, Malay, Tamil also same.. cannot speak or write properly, all England.

Have observed those at hm full mother tongue mode ones are generally good with both languages coz in school no lack of practice for English. So sort of balance out.

Saw a few even can speak dialects due to interaction with grandparents. Rarer now though

 

[niefeng80]

A friend who is a Chinese writer explained that many of the words are advanced versions of simpler terms. The advanced versions are more poetic and beautiful, great for literature – but not quite practical for everyday use.

Aiyo, no need to learn secondary math la. Just learn +-/x in primary school can already since that's more practical for everyday use.