Manchester United - Theatre of Dreams - Part 38

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PSG will not win the CL with Pochettino. May have a chance to win CL if they signed Zidane.
Man Utd also will not win the league title or CL with Pochettino. Only top 4 position.
 

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Just took a look at the table with one game to go.

Grp A : City (top) , PSG
Grp B : Liverpool (top).. Porto, AC Milan & Atletico Madrid can still snatch the runner spot.
Grp C : Ajax (top), Dortmund and Sporting Lisbon will battle for the 2nd spot. (Sporting Lisbon will finish 2nd)
Grp D : Real Madrid and Inter Milan will meet in the last game to decide who will finish first and second.
Grp E: Bayern (top), Barcelona and Benfica will battle for the 2nd spot
Grp F : MU (top), Atalanta and Villareal will meet to decide who will finish 2nd.
Grp G : Still open with the top and bottom team separated by .. 3 pts.
Grp H : Will go into the last game to decide if Chelsea or Juve will finish top.


interesting ....
Interesting will be Man Utd vs PSG in the 2nd round.
 

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Pochettino has always been a coach who has demanded certain principles from his players. They must work incredibly hard without the ball, and they must be prepared to perform as a unit, helping out in unfamiliar areas of the pitch, if required.

And therein lies Pochettino's problem in Paris: His players simply don't work hard enough, individually or collectively, and his superstar front three of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe all appear to believe that tracking back is only what ordinary players do. Over the 90 minutes, Pep Guardiola's City players covered 111.7 kilometres in total. PSG managed just 105.3 km, so they were literally outrun by their opponents.

Messi, Neymar and Mbappe did have their moments when their quality unsettled City, none more so than when Messi's deflected pass teed up Mbappe to score the opening goal on 50 minutes. But there also were times when PSG were forced to defend with eight players because the three of them remained far from the defensive area, at times with their hands on their hips, waiting for the foot soldiers to win the ball back and release them on a counterattack.

On more than one occasion, Pochettino displayed a look of simmering anger, arms tightly folded, in the technical area as his defenders were left exposed by his forwards. For a coach who had Harry Kane, Son Heung-Min and Lucas Moura prepared to chase lost causes and drop deep at Tottenham Hotspur, it will hurt deeply to see his PSG forwards leaving it for everybody else to do.

At Spurs, though, Pochettino had a group of young, ambitious players willing to answer every one of his demands and instructions. They bought into his idea and his personality, and Spurs almost won the Champions League because of it.

At PSG, the players don't appear to have the same respect for -- or fear of -- Pochettino, and his frustration is also borne out by his inability to get his message across. As an experienced coach, he knows that his senior players are only taking on board what they want to hear, rather than what they don't. And that is why, eventually, the cracks will blow wide open.

If PSG's big stars underperform, it will be Pochettino who pays the price, but the club will lose out too.

Maybe it would be best for all concerned for Pochettino and PSG to accept that it isn't really working and leave him to discuss his future with United and for PSG to hire a coach who has previous experience of winning Champions Leagues with a squad full of big egos. Zinedine Zidane, perhaps.

https://www.espn.com.sg/soccer/pari...acebut-loss-to-city-hints-at-trouble-in-paris
Pochettino coming to Man Utd will face almost the same problems as PSG if those Man Utd players don't change their mindset. Man Utd players need to press, the forward & wingers will need to drop back to defend.
 

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United players the same as PSG, all want to be star players....those hardworking players (squad players) are not United standard and always get the flake from United fans too.....

With the board backing the players.....no manager in the future will be able to control United players....
 

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United players the same as PSG, all want to be star players....those hardworking players (squad players) are not United standard and always get the flake from United fans too.....

With the board backing the players.....no manager in the future will be able to control United players....
Diff... Those in PSG, mostly are already star players...

Ours are... not star but trying to be star... :sad:
 

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United players the same as PSG, all want to be star players....those hardworking players (squad players) are not United standard and always get the flake from United fans too.....

With the board backing the players.....no manager in the future will be able to control United players....
who are the hardworking players but always get the flake from fans?
 

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Pochettino has always been a coach who has demanded certain principles from his players. They must work incredibly hard without the ball, and they must be prepared to perform as a unit, helping out in unfamiliar areas of the pitch, if required.

And therein lies Pochettino's problem in Paris: His players simply don't work hard enough, individually or collectively, and his superstar front three of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe all appear to believe that tracking back is only what ordinary players do. Over the 90 minutes, Pep Guardiola's City players covered 111.7 kilometres in total. PSG managed just 105.3 km, so they were literally outrun by their opponents.

Messi, Neymar and Mbappe did have their moments when their quality unsettled City, none more so than when Messi's deflected pass teed up Mbappe to score the opening goal on 50 minutes. But there also were times when PSG were forced to defend with eight players because the three of them remained far from the defensive area, at times with their hands on their hips, waiting for the foot soldiers to win the ball back and release them on a counterattack.

On more than one occasion, Pochettino displayed a look of simmering anger, arms tightly folded, in the technical area as his defenders were left exposed by his forwards. For a coach who had Harry Kane, Son Heung-Min and Lucas Moura prepared to chase lost causes and drop deep at Tottenham Hotspur, it will hurt deeply to see his PSG forwards leaving it for everybody else to do.

At Spurs, though, Pochettino had a group of young, ambitious players willing to answer every one of his demands and instructions. They bought into his idea and his personality, and Spurs almost won the Champions League because of it.

At PSG, the players don't appear to have the same respect for -- or fear of -- Pochettino, and his frustration is also borne out by his inability to get his message across. As an experienced coach, he knows that his senior players are only taking on board what they want to hear, rather than what they don't. And that is why, eventually, the cracks will blow wide open.

If PSG's big stars underperform, it will be Pochettino who pays the price, but the club will lose out too.

Maybe it would be best for all concerned for Pochettino and PSG to accept that it isn't really working and leave him to discuss his future with United and for PSG to hire a coach who has previous experience of winning Champions Leagues with a squad full of big egos. Zinedine Zidane, perhaps.

https://www.espn.com.sg/soccer/pari...acebut-loss-to-city-hints-at-trouble-in-paris
Pochettino coming to Man Utd will face almost the same problems as PSG if those Man Utd players don't change their mindset. Man Utd players need to press, the forward & wingers will need to drop back to defend.
is pressing and closing down the same thing ?
 

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and when PSG won City 2-0 was because?
Pochettino has always been a coach who has demanded certain principles from his players. They must work incredibly hard without the ball, and they must be prepared to perform as a unit, helping out in unfamiliar areas of the pitch, if required.

And therein lies Pochettino's problem in Paris: His players simply don't work hard enough, individually or collectively, and his superstar front three of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe all appear to believe that tracking back is only what ordinary players do. Over the 90 minutes, Pep Guardiola's City players covered 111.7 kilometres in total. PSG managed just 105.3 km, so they were literally outrun by their opponents.

Messi, Neymar and Mbappe did have their moments when their quality unsettled City, none more so than when Messi's deflected pass teed up Mbappe to score the opening goal on 50 minutes. But there also were times when PSG were forced to defend with eight players because the three of them remained far from the defensive area, at times with their hands on their hips, waiting for the foot soldiers to win the ball back and release them on a counterattack.

On more than one occasion, Pochettino displayed a look of simmering anger, arms tightly folded, in the technical area as his defenders were left exposed by his forwards. For a coach who had Harry Kane, Son Heung-Min and Lucas Moura prepared to chase lost causes and drop deep at Tottenham Hotspur, it will hurt deeply to see his PSG forwards leaving it for everybody else to do.

At Spurs, though, Pochettino had a group of young, ambitious players willing to answer every one of his demands and instructions. They bought into his idea and his personality, and Spurs almost won the Champions League because of it.

At PSG, the players don't appear to have the same respect for -- or fear of -- Pochettino, and his frustration is also borne out by his inability to get his message across. As an experienced coach, he knows that his senior players are only taking on board what they want to hear, rather than what they don't. And that is why, eventually, the cracks will blow wide open.

If PSG's big stars underperform, it will be Pochettino who pays the price, but the club will lose out too.

Maybe it would be best for all concerned for Pochettino and PSG to accept that it isn't really working and leave him to discuss his future with United and for PSG to hire a coach who has previous experience of winning Champions Leagues with a squad full of big egos. Zinedine Zidane, perhaps.

https://www.espn.com.sg/soccer/pari...acebut-loss-to-city-hints-at-trouble-in-paris
Pochettino coming to Man Utd will face almost the same problems as PSG if those Man Utd players don't change their mindset. Man Utd players need to press, the forward & wingers will need to drop back to defend.
 
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