MoCA Ethernet over Coax Adapters

[cyberet]

testing for my friend..... here's what we got. not bad result..... quite consistent. better than powerline, i guess. My aztech can only get about 20++. Its a good option for those who don't want to lay cable.

Hi Romanohairi,

Check I check with you what frequency did you set it to?

Can u set it to any frequency above 1150MHz and retest the speed?

This will help test if frequency above 1GHz, e.g. actiontec MoCA which operate 1150~1500MHz will experience a speed cut due to the regular 5~1000MHz splitter used.


Thanks!

 

[mrsun18]

So, seems like there are two options for networking over coax:
1) Singtel's Aztech HPNA 3.1 device + 52-68MHz band stop filter, ratified by IDA
2) Actiontec MoCA device + 1GHz low pass filter, yet to be ratified by IDA

correct?

2. with current specs won't be approved for sale in SG unless the SG standard is amended to suit.

Where to get it? Mine has double entry and splitters. Scv box in riser is locked by key.
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I think the filter is the hurdle. Suspect it is under product development.

As I see it, Starhub will take cable home network as a business opportunity since it is a viable alternative to other home network solutions. Fixing the filter at the riser outside will not be an issue once the necessary products are available.

Since Aztech HN100SF is listed as approved by ST, it must have met the SG standard, on trial pending ironing out the kinks.

Edit: The Aztech package includes a band stop filter BSF 52-68. The filter is commercially available.

 

[silverius24]

Hold your horses, seems that what IDA require is a low frequency band stop while most US MoCA devices are operating at much higher frequencies (and using low pass/band pass filters)

The filter is to be installed at the point where the cable runs into your house, and not fibre ONT.

This is in the seller's item description:

This filter is often called a “Point of Entry Filter.” This means that it is installed at the cable point of entry to your home (ONT for FiOS or FttH customers).

So the ONT referred to here is not the nucleus connect?

I do not understand the frequency thing. For the Soontai Tech POE filter, the Pass Band: 5 - 1000MHz.

For the actiontec device, the specs listed are:
Network Center Frequency Range 1150 ~ 1500 MHz
Network Frequency Range 1125 ~ 1525 MHz

Does this mean the filter is unsuitable for use with the actiontec device?

 

[liangtam]

This is in the seller's item description:

This filter is often called a “Point of Entry Filter.” This means that it is installed at the cable point of entry to your home (ONT for FiOS or FttH customers).

So the ONT referred to here is not the nucleus connect?

For the US, the cable service is delivered through fiber optics to the equipment which will spot the coaxial output.

In this case, the NC box does not have the output, so it does not apply.

The filter should be placed in between the main SCV box and the existing cable currently connected.

However, please make sure there are no internal modification in the box itself where it is split and connected to another room in your house, it will not connect in this case - which you will need to make some modification.

 

[chuanz]

This is in the seller's item description:

This filter is often called a “Point of Entry Filter.” This means that it is installed at the cable point of entry to your home (ONT for FiOS or FttH customers).

So the ONT referred to here is not the nucleus connect?

I do not understand the frequency thing. For the Soontai Tech POE filter, the Pass Band: 5 - 1000MHz.

For the actiontec device, the specs listed are:
Network Center Frequency Range 1150 ~ 1500 MHz
Network Frequency Range 1125 ~ 1525 MHz

Does this mean the filter is unsuitable for use with the actiontec device?

5-1000 MHz passband is suitable.
The idea is to install at the point where Starhub cable branches into your house. So that >1000MHz frequencies are blocked from "exiting" your house into the main cable.

e.g. this is the main 1:3 splitter, you would install the POE at the "IN" side

btw, like @cyberet, all the splitters in my house are rated 5-1000MHz, so I'm not sure if I can deploy MoCA as well without change of splitter

 

[silverius24]

5-1000 MHz passband is suitable.
The idea is to install at the point where Starhub cable branches into your house. So that >1000MHz frequencies are blocked from "exiting" your house into the main cable.

e.g. this is the main 1:3 splitter, you would install the POE at the "IN" side

btw, like @cyberet, all the splitters in my house are rated 5-1000MHz, so I'm not sure if I can deploy MoCA as well without change of splitter

Thank you for that image. It makes things a little clearer. Where is this splitter normally located? So it is accessible to us and we can just install the filter ourselves?

 

[cyberet]

5-1000 MHz passband is suitable.
The idea is to install at the point where Starhub cable branches into your house. So that >1000MHz frequencies are blocked from "exiting" your house into the main cable.

e.g. this is the main 1:3 splitter, you would install the POE at the "IN" side

btw, like @cyberet, all the splitters in my house are rated 5-1000MHz, so I'm not sure if I can deploy MoCA as well without change of splitter

read overseas forums, some ppl can use the actiontec devices with 5-1000MHz splitters, but I think speed might be affected.

Which is why I'm seeking romanohairi's help to try if he can manually set his netgear MoCA to above 1000MHz and see if he gets a speed drop since 60+Mbps is quite close to the 70Mbps max that most reviewers get in USA.

As netgear can operate from 850MHz - 1550MHz

earlier silverius24 can get his to work, but only at 20+Mbps, far from the 70Mbps usually achievable.

 

[upgrade]

Anyone of you causing this?

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/i...-4/low-starhub-download-speeds-3926833.html#6

Where is your location?i am near bedok and have the same issue.Called starhub and they have confirmed problem lies with them.

They says mine is not an isolated case,many in my block have been complaining the same issue.Told me something to do with somebody using an illegal high frequency device near their starhub cables thus disrupting their signals.

If it helps, singTel is running a HomePNA trial (aka MoCA). The equipment is Aztech HN100SF.

HomePNA (On Trial) | Technical Support

http://techsupport.singnet.com.sg/webfm_send/51

I don't think iDA has given approval for any HomePNA (MoCA) equipment yet. Otherwise would see them sold at shops here.

 

[silverius24]

earlier silverius24 can get his to work, but only at 20+Mbps, far from the 70Mbps usually achievable.

So far my max download speed is 31.95 Mbps

I have found the scv box.



So can the POE filter just be screwed onto this end of the coaxial cable?

 

[mrsun18]

...
I have found the scv box.

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So can the POE filter just be screwed onto this end of the coaxial cable?

Yes, if the cable enters your unit from here. Get it done quick and hope that Starhub don't come after you.

 

[danxiaogui86]

Very interesting concept. Can i check if a 300mbps fiber connection, will it have problem to run MoCA concept?

 

[plushJ]

Hi all,

I'm wondering if I should purchase some moca adapters over Amazon for use. But there are still lots of questions bugging me:

1) Where will I be able to purchase this POE band filter?

2) If I purchase ActionTec MoCA Adapters, I would have to buy voltage converters too, in order to use the ones from US... right?

3) Don't think the Aztech ones are available for sale in Singapore?

Any further sharing of experience and comments is welcome.

 

[tsammyc]

MyRepublic with Actiontec Moca adapters

 

[tsammyc]

2) If I purchase ActionTec MoCA Adapters, I would have to buy voltage converters too, in order to use the ones from US... right?

The Actiontec power adapters handle 240V fine, so you don't have to buy voltage converters.

 

[ngbc]

MyRepublic with Actiontec Moca adapters

How much did you get it (with shipping) for a pair?

 

[plushJ]

The Actiontec power adapters handle 240V fine, so you don't have to buy voltage converters.

Thanks for the info tsammyc.

 

[kun1he2]

MyRepublic with Actiontec Moca adapters

Hmm, upstream seems kinda slow? Is that typical with MR or MoCA?

 

[tsammyc]

How much did you get it (with shipping) for a pair?

I was visiting the US and brought them home in a suitcase. About USD110 per pair with free shipping to US address

 

[SuPeR_bOy]

I am also exploring this solution. May I know where and how to get the Moca Poe filter?

 

[tsammyc]

A bit faster today. Using my MacBookAir with a USB2.0 Gigabit adapter via MoCa to MyRepublic 100 mbit/s