*Official* Shiny Things club - Part 2

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Push up this post. Help needed

Ok. Noted on the scb accounts. Will go to the bank personally. Another question for IB registration.

IB asking for this.

How should i select this so they will approve my account to trade IWDA?

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Hi ST, BBCW, and all,

Extremely new to all of this so do pardon my noob question: Why is CSPX (~289USD) much more expensive than VUSD (~55USD) when both track the S&P500?

Thanks in advance!

It just means that 1 share of CSPX holds ~289USD worth of US listed shares (the proportion mostly determined by the S&P 500 weightage), and 1 share of VUSD holds ~55USD worth of US listed shares (the proportion mostly determined by the S&P 500 weightage).

If the S&P 500 goes up by 10%, the price of CSPX and VUSD will both go up by 10%. That is all. Don't get hung up over relative prices.

Some questions for IB

1)If I start an account and transfer usd 100k over but do not purchase anything yet, the monthly charge will start charging ?

Website says waiver for first 3 months if AUM is less than 100k. However, you are transferring 100k usd, so see below.

2)If I transfer usd 100k over and I continue to buy 4K worth of idwa a month, will my account also be slap with the monthly charge until I have 100k usd invested totally?

100k AUM to avoid the 10 USD monthly minimum, a mix of cash, stocks, bonds will do.
 

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Currently using... we both are using BoA savings, checking accounts and credit and debit cards. Just because... BoA is nearest to us. Haha. Any good recommendations? :D

I think I’m going to suggest Alliant Credit Union, which hits all these marks. That’s the credit union serving United Airlines employees, and others. (There are a few United employees in Singapore, so a Singapore mailing address isn’t a big deal — although like most institutions you have to opt for electronic statements to avoid a paper statement fee.) It costs US$10 to join (donation to a charity) if you don’t otherwise qualify for membership, and that’s it for life. Their High-Interest Checking Account pays decent interest on balances, and their ATM card is almost as globally fabulous as Schwab’s. (Instead of unlimited ATM operator fee rebates it’s US$20 maximum per month. And there’s no foreign currency markup — just the Visa network’s 1% charge.) They also offer a savings account which pays excellent interest, and if you don’t think you’ll ever use the Bill Pay feature or use an ATM that levies an operator fee then that’s enough.

I am a couple days late to this discussion but I just wanted to second this suggestion of Alliant CU, as I'm actually a member there. I opened an account while I was in the U.S. on a J-1 visa, but I checked and they said I could keep the account open after I returned to Singapore. In fact I eventually got the primary address changed to Singapore to get my debit card renewed, and recently they snail mailed me to ask for an updated W-8BEN, so things are fine.

Other pros: US$20 ATM fee rebate aside, the Allpoint ATM network is huge, and has better coverage than any single bank in major cities. You get a full first 'box' of checks free, not three starter checks or something lame like that. Free ACH push/pull transfers, which is super helpful for dealing with bank accounts that want to charge you per ACH transfer. They have their own ABA routing number, unlike some CUs, so TransferWise can send money to it without complications. Free incoming wires. Avoiding inactivity is just any one deposit/withdrawal a year. Also I think they recently adjusted the charity membership model so that they actually pay the donation "on your behalf", so that saves you the step of figuring out how to pay that separately (and saves them the effort of making sure people paid, if they ever did...). Min savings balance of $5.

The caveats: I don't know where in MA you are, but it's really hard to find an ATM that on the CO-OP Network and is eligible for Alliant CU cash deposit in Boston, because the three (well, I just checked -- two now) are physically inside credit union locations that are open for limited hours only; you'll want to keep an account at a bank/CU with local presence while you're still stateside. There's one additional monthly electronic deposit hoop to receive interest on the checking account. The internet banking is clunky in places though the mobile app has been significantly modernised. Mint keeps getting disconnected and requires re-login every month or so. The travel notification thing can be a bit of a hassle to fill out.

(Savings accounts are limited to 6 withdrawals per month, but cash withdrawn at an ATM doesn’t count.)

Strictly speaking that's correct, but you'll run into other limits -- the daily ATM card withdrawal limits, for one, and it's not especially high. On the other hand, transfers from savings to checking made at an ATM also don't count towards the limit, but you might need to be at an actual own bank/CU ATM to do that, as I don't remember seeing anything other than withdrawal on the Plus or Allpoint network ATMs.
 

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I cant proceed past this page if i put 0 years exp leh...
Simplest is to go to the branch. I opened esaver and trading account in 25 minutes (with ibanking created and activated on the spot).

Just need to bring the usual required documents like nric, proof of residence, ...
 

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I was referring to IB, not stanchart

Simplest is to go to the branch. I opened esaver and trading account in 25 minutes (with ibanking created and activated on the spot).

Just need to bring the usual required documents like nric, proof of residence, ...
 

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Guys, can correct me if i am missing something, but if im going to DCA the STI ETF, wouldn't it make sense to do so through contributing to my SRS and then using the SRS to buy STI ETF, probably through OCBC BCIP/POSB Invest saver?

I double dip on the tax savings and the performance of the fund. That's like having a guaranteed 7% (from tax for me. if your income is higher it's higher) and non guaranteed roughly 5-8% (based on past performance).

Am i missing something? Seems like a really good strat
 

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Ya loh tts what i thinking too.

Means shinys allocation strategy better to use for other brokerage account

Yeah dun think you will be able to open an IB account if you do not have prior experience or you lie that you have investing experience, which is not the right thing to do.
 

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Just lie on the investment experience. Brokers do not care nor investigate. All brokers have it to cover their ass.

You just need to be very sure of your knowledge and execution.

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The caveats: I don't know where in MA you are, but it's really hard to find an ATM that on the CO-OP Network and is eligible for Alliant CU cash deposit in Boston, because the three (well, I just checked -- two now) are physically inside credit union locations that are open for limited hours only; you'll want to keep an account at a bank/CU with local presence while you're still stateside.
That’d be a problem if you need to deposit cash, but who does that any more? Laundromat owners, maybe? Even the Speedqueens are becoming cashless.

There’s a reasonable workaround, though. Buy a money order — I think Walmart charges US$0.70 for a money order — then use mobile check deposit. Of course spending cash works at merchants that still accept it. It’s still useful at supermarkets. For now.

Strictly speaking that's correct, but you'll run into other limits -- the daily ATM card withdrawal limits, for one, and it's not especially high.
Alliant’s ATM limit is US$1,000 per day. Is this a (legal) marijuana dispensary problem that I’m just not attuned to? ;)

On the other hand, transfers from savings to checking made at an ATM also don't count towards the limit, but you might need to be at an actual own bank/CU ATM to do that, as I don't remember seeing anything other than withdrawal on the Plus or Allpoint network ATMs.
That’s a task you can easily accomplish via Internet or mobile banking, but then I think it would count toward the 6 savings account withdrawals per month maximum. Not a big deal, though. It just means you cannot transfer $3.95 every time you buy bread using funds from your checking account. I typically top up an active checking account twice a month, occasionally three times a month. That’s less than six, much less. And it’s certainly possible to have only a checking account if you prefer, including for all deposits, but the savings account earns more interest.
 

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What is the esaver used for? To deposit funds in there for investing only?

Simplest is to go to the branch. I opened esaver and trading account in 25 minutes (with ibanking created and activated on the spot).

Just need to bring the usual required documents like nric, proof of residence, ...
 

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Yeah dun think you will be able to open an IB account if you do not have prior experience or you lie that you have investing experience, which is not the right thing to do.

No, c’mon, this is ridiculous.

IB asks, but as best I know they only use it to determine suitability for margin. If you’re just opening a cash account (no margin) they won’t care.

And Stanchart asks, but trust me, if you say you’ve traded six times before they don’t check.

It’s an ass-covering exercise.
 

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Guys, can correct me if i am missing something, but if im going to DCA the STI ETF, wouldn't it make sense to do so through contributing to my SRS and then using the SRS to buy STI ETF, probably through OCBC BCIP/POSB Invest saver?

I double dip on the tax savings and the performance of the fund. That's like having a guaranteed 7% (from tax for me. if your income is higher it's higher) and non guaranteed roughly 5-8% (based on past performance).

Am i missing something? Seems like a really good strat

This is absolutely a valid idea, yeah. SRS accounts don’t give you a huge tax benefit until you start earning about eighty grand a year, but above that line, they’re absolutely an option.
 

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Can anyone tell me the purpose why we need to open the esaver account with sc besides trading account??
 

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Apparently you need the esaver to be able to transfer to the trading settlement accounts.

In the end I have 3 accounts at scb: the SGD trading settlement account, the USD trading settlement account and the esaver.

To start trading you need to put money either in the SGD or USD trading settlement accounts, which you can apparently only do from another scb account, like the esaver.
 
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Can anyone tell me the purpose why we need to open the esaver account with sc besides trading account??
I suggest you calm down and stop being in such a hurry. This is a forum, people use their free time to discuss and answer questions. Relax a bit.

See my answer above
 

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If you go to the branch, they will answer all your questions immediately by the way. I did that and it was very easy.
 
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