Prof Fisher: Boosters do have some role in slowing transmission but it is not long-lasting, especially for Omicron

[quirkyhill]

Nobody smells a rat?

your nickname is apt

(rhymes too haha)

 

[tyhand39]

then what's the use of keep jabbing, those who took booster early how?

let them jab more loh since they since enthusiastically jab at first notice

 

[AZE]

Do u mean covid mutates faster than flu? If flu doesnt mutate that fast, and even they need to be adjusted seasonally, then shouldnt the vaccines for the faster mutating covid be adjusted even more often? Seems a bit contradictory to me…?

The truth ish they can actually immediately release a vaccine. Not really difficult for most of them.
But anyone dare to use them?
Because the vaccines are new and against a new virus, they need to pass through tons of stringent checks, EUA and stuffs, took too long a time. By the time they are released the waves hab passed.
Flu vaccines hab been around for decades, the ingredients in use, effects etc are all easily understood, sho it ish more easily accepted.
Covid vaccines are newer that's huai they need the long lengthy verification process.

 

[demon0192]

from prevent transmission to reduce severe illness, now change to slow transmission??

isn't omicron a vaccine-escaped variant?


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[miko66]

What the fish!
Booster can last how long ar ....
Every month 1 jab

 

[BBClone]

Priming chao sinkies for 3rd, 4th, 5th doses now!

 

[Smtsai]

then what's the use of keep jabbing, those who took booster early how?

Boost again until engine spoil then too bad lo

 

[UptheToon]

Yes yes correct. Answer is keep boosting and jabbing.

Please start the jabs for newborn onwards also. All jab 3 times.

 

[TurboBumbleBee]

The truth ish they can actually immediately release a vaccine. Not really difficult for most of them.
But anyone dare to use them?
Because the vaccines are new and against a new virus, they need to pass through tons of stringent checks, EUA and stuffs, took too long a time. By the time they are released the waves hab passed.
Flu vaccines hab been around for decades, the ingredients in use, effects etc are all easily understood, sho it ish more easily accepted.
Covid vaccines are newer that's huai they need the long lengthy verification process.

How long did they test the current covid vaccines before releasing them to the public?

 

[Senna Wales]

T cells ish the 2nd line of defence, it probably prevent severe illness but does not prevent infection, which ish huai ppl might gets infected but don't die to covid after vaccinations.
In order to flatten the curve we need to prevent infection in the 1st place, and to slow the spread.

Updated vaccines won't make it in time until the current wave ish over.
The current vaccines still works well, just not as well as against previous variants.
Using them to smoothen and mesh the transition into endemic Omicron ish the right choice. Either that or we are looking at more stringent measures to restrict economy and social life.

That's why many countries are going back to lockdowns, or those who are scared of their people going into partial lockdowns or just some sort of restrictions, including us who have all these nonsense restrictions that don't really achieve anything (which is a whole separate discussion).

It's not an option. The only way to stop all this nonsense is to break the chains of transmission through isolation, which means lockdown.

And it is the greatest of ironies that a lockdown would cost less money than the current situation, because there is an end to it, and people can make plans, while uncertainty is the biggest economic killer. The philosophy of "one time good one".

There's no such thing as endemic COVID, because endemic strategy is dependent on herd immunity, which in turn is dependent on (at least a partial) sterilising immunity, the mechanism being breaking the chains of transmission. Endemic only works when the vulnerable ("underlying conditions") can successfully be prevented from coming into contact with the virus, and we can clearly see this is not possible.

 

[Senior-citizen]

FLU hab been super deadly in the past, and in certain sense, during modern winter seasons it still ish a threat to the vulnerable, though smaller one, just that ppl somehow agreed to accept the inevitable...
COVID19 ish still not quite there yet, though it remains hopeful that Omicron might set the trend.

1. Covid-19 is definitely more contagious than flu
2. Overall, COVID-19 seems to cause more serious illnesses in some people.
3. Serious COVID-19 illness resulting in hospitalization and death can occur even in healthy people.
4. Some people that had COVID-19 can go on to develop post-COVD conditions or multisystem inflammatory syndrome (MIS)

But even flu isn't always a mild disease. In fact, Hong Kong struggled with an unusually long flu outbreak that killed more than 200 people in May-Jun 2017.

Singapore also had a flu outbreak during this period. But MOH pulled a fast one, claiming that there were “similar spikes” in 2017, with 1,902 deaths in May and 1,925 deaths in June.

We may already have more than 3,000 excess deaths.
(Notice that the deaths for Jan 2020 is used as baseline for excess deaths rather than 2015-2019)

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/goto/post?id=138067542

 

[hoosdathu]

stopped reading at Fisher