Public transport in Singapore: Ride bicycle is faster.

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Public transport in Singapore: Ride bicycle is faster.

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According to 'Average cycling speed' (road-bike.co.uk) [link]: "Average cycling speed - indications... some general guidelines, all for solo riders on general 'mixed' terrain (ie rolling hills about 30% of the time, and pretty flat the rest of the time): Beginner, short distance (say 10-15 miles): average speed 12 mph. Most cyclists can achieve 10-12 mph (16.09 - 19.31kph) average very quickly with limited training. ..."

The TODAY news report (appended bottom):
"Minister of State for Transport Josephine Teo revealed ... bus speeds have gone down from 19.1kmh in 2007 to 17.8kmh...."

Given that a "more experienced" cyclist can maintain an average speed of 25kph over a "short-medium distance of 20-30miles" (32 - 48km), and that cycling is a healthy sport, not just physically but also environmentally, (in so far that protection is worn and rules are obeyed), the current situation of slow bus timings, snail paced traffic, single occupant cars etc, it would probably be time, I think for a major public transport revamp/ re-think in the making.

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Bus hubs currently the priority and good progress made: Josephine Teo
04:45 AM Jan 18, 2012
by Sumita Sreedharan
SINGAPORE - Bus speeds have decreased slightly because of an increase in ridership, Minister of State for Transport Josephine Teo revealed in Parliament yesterday.
Responding to Chua Chu Kang GRC MP Alex Yam, who had asked about the progress in improving bus speeds, Mrs Teo said bus speeds have gone down from 19.1kmh in 2007 to 17.8kmh, as ridership went up from 2.9 million per day to 3.45 million per day in the same time.
"As more buses are introduced to cater to this increase, this would have caused buses to wait a longer time at bus stops to accommodate increased passenger boarding and alighting activities," explained Mrs Teo.
To address this, the Land Transport Authority had announced recently that 35 bus stops would be expanded into bus hubs by the end of next year, allowing more buses to berth at bus bays for simultaneous boarding and alighting. This would reduce the average time each bus spends at bus stops, improving speeds and the journey times for commuters.
Pressed by Mr Yam to elaborate on the schemes under study by the ministry, Mrs Teo said the 35 bus hubs are currently the priority project and "good progress" has been made.
Mr Yam also suggested that longer, wider trunk roads be installed across the central median to reduce the incidence of left-turning vehicles blocking the buses that are going straight. Mrs Teo said this would be considered. Nee Soon GRC MP Lee Bee Wah brought up the issue of bus drivers' unfamiliarity with bus routes, asking if measures have been taken to address this.
Mrs Teo attributed the problem to "occasions where there are services that need to be improved very quickly", and buses need to be pumped in; hence drivers are deployed on unfamiliar routes.
Having more bus drivers trained across different routes would help but this would take time to implement as operators would need to pull drivers from their regular services for training, she said.
Nonetheless, she stressed that the issue is being "taken seriously" and the bus system must become "more flexible" and "more responsive" to the need for bus services. Sumita Sreedharan
URL TODAYonline | Singapore | Bus hubs currently the priority and good progress made: Josephine Teo
Copyright 2012 MediaCorp Pte
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Nt possible la. Where r u going to park so much bicycles? Season parking? Erp?
 

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floods, droughts... yeah

Nt possible la. Where r u going to park so much bicycles? Season parking? Erp?
One car park lot can park at least 8 bicycles comfortably, many more if U pile them up/ build racks. U can transport many more ppl on bicycles than U can on cars. Terrain dependent also (floods normally don't stop cyclist unlike cars- the 'ponding' in SG that is). Just don't get another Ferrari driving CEO to manage the MRT pls, such CEOs only know how to count $$$, the mechanical functioning of the trains don't seem much of their concern (she made the chief engineers there quit- IIRC)

Anyhow, U can also hang bikes on walls (in office etc) or squeeze them under desk if collapsible.

BTW, SG fell in WWII to Japanese soldiers riding stolen bicycles.

Maybe people will start cycling when flooded roads become impassable due to blockages or waterlogged traffic... I don't know. Maybe Dr Vivian knows... floods, droughts... yeah!
 

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Safety a main concerned lor, SG road not design to taken care of cyclist.
 

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Safety a main concerned lor, SG road not design to taken care of cyclist.

And, if you ride on walkways instead, the pedestrians who hogged the walkways will complain if you never ring to warm them as you ride pass, and if you ring, that you are a arrogant person to 'demand' they give way. Damn if you do, damn if you don't.
 

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BTW, SG fell in WWII to Japanese soldiers riding stolen bicycles.

Maybe people will start cycling when flooded roads become impassable due to blockages or waterlogged traffic... I don't know. Maybe Dr Vivian knows... floods, droughts... yeah!

and when these born-again cyclists come to a flooded road; what do they do? Lift up their cycles above their head and wade through the arm-pit-high flood like the Japanese soldiers? I really hope OLs will do that =:p I will be there with my camera, and no goddang Police Sargeant is gonna drag me away, handcuffs or no handcuffs.
 
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and when these born-again cyclists come to a flooded road; what do they do? Lift up their cycles above their head and wade through the arm-pit-high flood like the Japanese soldiers? I really hope OLs will do that =:p
What is 'OLs'?

If it is familiar road and if bicycle isn't more precious than oneself, one can also cycle through the flood.

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Office Ladies aka office chiobus.


Just some end-of-hard-workday humour :D
 

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Efficient use of road space for shorter distances, ride bicycle is better:

Efficient use of road space for shorter distances, ride bicycle is better:

"In the space it takes to accommodate 60 cars, cities can accommodate around sixteen buses or more than 600 bikes. As Australia’s population swells and our cities experience ever increasing congestion we need to get smarter about how we use existing road space—including investing more in alternatives such as public transport and cycling—if we are to move people more efficiently and effectively.” said former professional cyclist Stephen Hodge (Australia).
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Münster's iconic 'waste of space' photo keeps on giving - Bikehub - http://www.bikehub.co.uk

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Efficient use of road space for shorter distances, ride bicycle is better:

"In the space it takes to accommodate 60 cars, cities can accommodate around sixteen buses or more than 600 bikes. As Australia’s population swells and our cities experience ever increasing congestion we need to get smarter about how we use existing road space—including investing more in alternatives such as public transport and cycling—if we are to move people more efficiently and effectively.” said former professional cyclist Stephen Hodge (Australia).
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No need. just need erp and coe.
 

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Efficient use of road space for shorter distances, ride bicycle is better:

"In the space it takes to accommodate 60 cars, cities can accommodate around sixteen buses or more than 600 bikes. As Australia’s population swells and our cities experience ever increasing congestion we need to get smarter about how we use existing road space—including investing more in alternatives such as public transport and cycling—if we are to move people more efficiently and effectively.” said former professional cyclist Stephen Hodge (Australia).
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CanberraTransportPhoto.jpg

Münster's iconic 'waste of space' photo keeps on giving - Bikehub - http://www.bikehub.co.uk

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Going to need shower place at office leh. My office toilet shower don't work
 

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and what are the recommended models/brands btw?

thanks in advance
 

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and what are the recommended models/brands btw
thanks in advance
Seems to be a foldable bike shop at Lavender, where the auntie there can also save your life...
Using bare hands, S'pore woman saves life of heart-attack uncle
SAVED: Miss Jeannie Teo showing where the man had collapsed on the walkway outside the bicycle shop.
Monday, Mar 24, 2014
The New Paper
By Tan Tam Mei
SINGAPORE - She was making out a receipt to a customer when she saw a man collapse outside the bicycle shop.
Miss Jeannie Toh, 25, who works at the Mighty Velo shop in Lavender Street, quickly called the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) and shouted for her colleague to alert her boss.
The incident happened at around 4.50pm on March 12.
She picked up a calendar and rushed out to check on the man, who seemed to be in his 50s.
- See more at: Using bare hands, S'pore woman saves life of heart-attack uncle | YourHealth | AsiaOne
 

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Ahh thanks

What sort of price range am I looking at for decent foldable bikes?
 

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Ahh thanks

What sort of price range am I looking at for decent foldable bikes?
Depends on your definition of 'decent'. I've been riding a Strida; no gear, easy fold, for advanced riders, but I love it. I bought it @ $750 from Mighty Velo a year or 2 ago but heard that it costs $850 now. You can also get Dahons for this price range. If you want even cheaper, Aleoca.

If you want a really 'decent' one, it can go for a couple of Ks; Bike Friday, Moulton, Brompton, Tyrell, Flamingo, Birdy, etc. Go look for the Facebook pages of My Bike Shop, Mighty Velo, Lifecycle, eWalker. These shops specialist in foldies. I'm interested in fatbikes and TR Bikes seems to be the sole distributor.

There's a Sports & Lifestyle Expo at F1 Pit Building this weekend (Friday onwards). Some of these shops will be displaying their wares there.
Sports & Lifestyle Expo (SLE) | OCBC Cycle Singapore 2014
 
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So it is easier and cheaper to fix the car than fix the office shower... amazing.

Thats what you need to deal with when you want people to cycle to work in Singapore. The govt will need to pay companies to build shower facilities. It needs to build more cycle lane. The traffic laws need to change to accomodate cycling.

Note that all these are additional cost. It will have to pay for these new cost with new revenue. aka GST needs to increase.
 
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