[Racism/Discrimination/Race Card] Its confirmed! PSP NCMP Leong has fallen into Min Shanmugams trap!

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Those comments sound like WP supporters trying to badmouth PSP..Only say Leong was garang.. Why they never say Jamus was garang, and in the end, got minced in Parliament? LOL!

Some WP supporters really know how to twist and turn. .
 

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If he really wanted a debate, Leong should have at least deferred the showdown to a much later date.

Now is the perfect storm for Leong's political career to end. Especially with the recent news of the alleged racist guy kicking the indian lady that PM Lee shared. Anti PSP sentiments are at an all time high.

Leong's political career as well as PSP itself can be ended in that debate. Once he is painted as a racist and xenophobe, local minorities will not vote for PSP.

GG PSP.

The verdict is still out. Quote first for subsequent review. :grin:
 

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Those comments sound like WP supporters trying to badmouth PSP..Only say Leong was garang.. Why they never say Jamus was garang, and in the end, got minced in Parliament? LOL!

Some WP supporters really know how to twist and turn. .
There are mountains of posts here from different members singing the same tune after making a judgement call. Cannot claim they are WP supporters though.
 

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Those comments sound like WP supporters trying to badmouth PSP..Only say Leong was garang.. Why they never say Jamus was garang, and in the end, got minced in Parliament? LOL!

Some WP supporters really know how to twist and turn. .
There are already 2 activated here to seize the opportunity to justify WP pap-lite approach. :LOL:
 

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Jamus Lim does a better job on this. In the heat of debates, LMW gave in to the taunts offered by the other side. Last checked, the other side do not easily offer challenges and would rather hide from all forms of it unless they have a huge tactical advantage which has already been disclosed by many of our brothers in EDMW.
Wow! You can really tell cool stories man. WP supporter? Lol!

Jamus was minced in Parliament but you talk until he was like Genghis Khan riding on a warhorse into Parliament slaughtering PAP MPs and ministers! Lol!

Kaki kong kaki song, kaki declare victory ah? Lol!
 
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Wow! You can really tell cool stories man. WP supporter? Lol!

Jamus was minced in Parliament but you talk until he was like Genghis Khan riding on a warhorse into Parliament slaughtering PAP MPs and ministers! Lol!

Kai kong kaik song, kaki declare victory ah? Lol!
Last check, Pritiam got minced by Iswaran over issue that most sinkie don’t really bother. :LOL:
 

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If he challenges, he’s finished. Political career over. Loss will be all over the new more independent reporting straits times.....many many pages of his shame and downfall. Of course its a trap
If CECA is so bad, and such a lousy deal for Singapore, Leong should be having the upper hand. Minister Shan will be hyerventillating trying to defend CECA.

I sense that some of you here are now scared because you know that you had lied. That's not what I said. That's what Minister Shan said, all those untruths being spread around about CECA. You all said it's bad, now an oppo member speaks up and will represent you in a debate !

It is of utmost importance that this CECA thing be dealt with once and for all, and as oppo, Leong must represent all of you oppies to prove in Parliament that CECA is bad for us.. (Don't chicken out, Leong)
 

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If CECA is so bad, and such a lousy deal for Singapore, Leong should be having the upper hand. Minister Shan will be hyerventillating trying to defend CECA.

I sense that some of you here are now scared because you know that you had lied. That's not what I said. That's what Minister Shan said, all those untruths being spread around about CECA. You all said it's bad, now an oppo member speaks up and will represent you in a debate !

It is of utmost importance that this CECA thing be dealt with once and for all, and as oppo, Leong must represent all of you oppies to prove in Parliament that CECA is bad for us.. (Don't chickens out, Leong)
Pushing LMW onto the chopping board is not the responsible thing to do. How many politicans do you want to sacrifice? The likes on this one post and many posts thereafter already proved that we have reached a common consensus that this is the worst time to bring up CECA and yet you want LMW to go ahead with the challenge.
 

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while i do think that we should have more opposition in the parliament, i laugh and cringe at Mr Leong presentation and also questions.

but the whole crux is that opposition do not have enough access to proper information to have a proper debate
 

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he does not have all the ceca contract and details, while miw have

accepting challenge with handicap is quite stewpig unless miw is ready to give him the documents to analyze which as we all know will not happen.
 

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If CECA is so bad, and such a lousy deal for Singapore, Leong should be having the upper hand. Minister Shan will be hyerventillating trying to defend CECA.

I sense that some of you here are now scared because you know that you had lied. That's not what I said. That's what Minister Shan said, all those untruths being spread around about CECA. You all said it's bad, now an oppo member speaks up and will represent you in a debate !

It is of utmost importance that this CECA thing be dealt with once and for all, and as oppo, Leong must represent all of you oppies to prove in Parliament that CECA is bad for us.. (Don't chicken out, Leong)
Unfortunately the picture you painted is too simplistic. The outcome of the debate (which is already known before it take place) won’t prove the CECA critics wrong. The most likely outcome is people remain unconvinced by MIW arguments.
 

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unfortunately our economical model revolves around globalisation, free trades agreement, low tax environment, attractive to the rich. low cost labour for mundane chores.

we need to continue to open leg unless we got another income sources. which is non existent. previously they tried to round up all the business leaders for a brain storm for our future road map, after a few years, the conclusion was the same thing
 

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Honestly what's with the challenge? Sounds like some kid looking for a fight. Wording used could be more mature.

Its good what, just bring out the FTA, dispell whatever that is not accurate with data, and also make transparent the trade offs and gains we have. To be honest, no bad outcome.
 

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If Shake and MIW hope to use this to clear the controversy over CECA once and for all, they will probably be in for a disappointment, even if they appear to have won the debate. Gross statistics cited often do not match what are experienced on the ground.
 

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unfortunately our economical model revolves around globalisation, free trades agreement, low tax environment, attractive to the rich. low cost labour for mundane chores.

we need to continue to open leg unless we got another income sources. which is non existent. previously they tried to round up all the business leaders for a brain storm for our future road map, after a few years, the conclusion was the same thing
I think the question you are looking for is : is the model sustainable? Will the sg you know 20 years ago and now be the same sg as it is 20 years later? And if there is 70 percent new citizens with 30 percent local sg, can Singapore still be call Singapore? Or just a mash of China Chinese as "Singaporean", Indian from India as "Singaporeans", Philippinos as "Singaporean" on a piece of soil.

Frankly it seems more plausible to me that it will happen faster than climate change. LOL
anyway we hope to hear new ideas on how we plan to reduce reliance on foreign talents, not the same old repeating of why we need them.
 
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