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Can't be that coincidence that none of the FCCs have any slots left for Oct while everything seems normal on Nov.

But don't cancel your IPPT first.. Just wait and see if there is any announcement from MINDEF.
 

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Can't be that coincidence that none of the FCCs have any slots left for Oct while everything seems normal on Nov.

But don't cancel your IPPT first.. Just wait and see if there is any announcement from MINDEF.
they are now giving exemption on month by month basis, like those Aug one got exemption, etc.
Oct they probably foresee huge surge in number of cases, hence they might cancel.
But wait for mindef instruction first.
 

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So for 1 workyear, if I attempt just that 1 IPPT, that also count as 1 low key ah?
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low key = 6 days
high key = 7 days

for myself i had 3 low key ICT each with 6 days. So basically if u add just 1 more day to each of this low key ICT, it becomes high key since 6+1 = 7 days.

1 ippt session you take in a FCC, considered as half day. So for example you take 2 ippt FCC sessions in 2 years, that will be half day + half day = 1 day. The computer system will add that 1 day to your low key cycle that you took previously (if u had taken). So for my case, it adds to my low key ICTs, thus i MR earlier. 50 percent of my reservist unit also MR same time. We all completed 3 low key + 5 high key and they MR us.

We are lucky that our low key is in the beginning of our reservist cycle. Our ICT roadmap started with 3 low key and last 7 cycle is high keys.

Bottom line is, all this calculation is done by the computer system, there is some algorithm that they will record all your IPPT FCC sessions, your ICT cohesion days etc. and they will tabulate it up against all your ICT. So for me, though only 5 high keys was done, my IPPT sessions get added to my low key sessions lo so most of us fufilled that 10 years ORNS requirements.

And dont take IPPT during an ICT, as that wont be counted as an extra half day as you are using the inclusive ICT days already. Take IPPT outside of ICT in a FCC, that what makes it count. :)
 
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No.

low key = 6 days
high key = 7 days

for myself i had 3 low key ICT each with 6 days. So basically if u add just 1 more day to each of this low key ICT, it becomes high key since 6+1 = 7 days.

1 ippt session you take in a FCC, considered as half day. So for example you take 2 ippt FCC sessions in 2 years, that will be half day + half day = 1 day. The computer system will add that 1 day to your low key cycle that you took previously (if u had taken). So for my case, it adds to my low key ICTs, thus i MR earlier. 50 percent of my reservist unit also MR same time. We all completed 3 low key + 5 high key and they MR us.

We are lucky that our low key is in the beginning of our reservist cycle. Our ICT roadmap started with 3 low key and last 7 cycle is high keys.

Bottom line is, all this calculation is done by the computer system, there is some algorithm that they will record all your IPPT FCC sessions, your ICT cohesion days etc. and they will tabulate it up against all your ICT. So for me, though only 5 high keys was done, my IPPT sessions get added to my low key sessions lo so most of us fufilled that 10 years ORNS requirements.
oh wow that is cool, so it is based on the computer system that total tabulate all your hk and lk, thank for the information
 

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oh wow that is cool, so it is based on the computer system that total tabulate all your hk and lk, thank for the information
yea.

if u go into ns.sg there is this NS booklet section where it keep tracks of all your Mindef SAF appointments. I guess they based off from there.

I also heard that there is another trick. You can go to a FCC to take ippt 3 times. and this 3 times become 1 and a half day. Each year it capped at max 3 times.

So example in year 2021, u go in january, u either fail or pass. then book again in feb, u get a better result again then previous, then the 3rd one u do properly at your best haha..

Not many people know of this, but if many ppl do this, not sure will they change it in future haha.. But thankfully most of my unit about 50 percent all got a sudden news that we MR. They also didnt know until the 3rd last day of the ICT, mindef inform our CO that alot of people gonna MR due to the system calculation.

Some ICT mates, they always do their IPPT during our ICT because probably its easier to pass that way, not too sure. Those who did that, didnt MR, they have 1 or 2 more cycles haha..

orns.jpg
 

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Completed first session. Very well run. No cockups or anything. Today was boxing/punching.

Trainer is well motivated, seems like good participation from all the guys. There were 36 people in the session.

Quite intense, worked up a good sweat. Happy that I can clear 1 Fit session without having to travel to camp. Save about 2 hrs of travelling time. Not to mention reduce the risk also. Outside quite high risk.

Recommended if you have the space at home to do it. I think there's 3 sessions a day. 1230, 1630 and 1830.
 

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No.

low key = 6 days
high key = 7 days

for myself i had 3 low key ICT each with 6 days. So basically if u add just 1 more day to each of this low key ICT, it becomes high key since 6+1 = 7 days.

1 ippt session you take in a FCC, considered as half day. So for example you take 2 ippt FCC sessions in 2 years, that will be half day + half day = 1 day. The computer system will add that 1 day to your low key cycle that you took previously (if u had taken). So for my case, it adds to my low key ICTs, thus i MR earlier. 50 percent of my reservist unit also MR same time. We all completed 3 low key + 5 high key and they MR us.

We are lucky that our low key is in the beginning of our reservist cycle. Our ICT roadmap started with 3 low key and last 7 cycle is high keys.

Bottom line is, all this calculation is done by the computer system, there is some algorithm that they will record all your IPPT FCC sessions, your ICT cohesion days etc. and they will tabulate it up against all your ICT. So for me, though only 5 high keys was done, my IPPT sessions get added to my low key sessions lo so most of us fufilled that 10 years ORNS requirements.

And dont take IPPT during an ICT, as that wont be counted as an extra half day as you are using the inclusive ICT days already. Take IPPT outside of ICT in a FCC, that what makes it count. :)
but the criteria for low key is 6 days or less according to mindef.. quite confusing.
So those go 2-5 days low key not counted?
 

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yea.

if u go into ns.sg there is this NS booklet section where it keep tracks of all your Mindef SAF appointments. I guess they based off from there.

I also heard that there is another trick. You can go to a FCC to take ippt 3 times. and this 3 times become 1 and a half day. Each year it capped at max 3 times.

So example in year 2021, u go in january, u either fail or pass. then book again in feb, u get a better result again then previous, then the 3rd one u do properly at your best haha..

Not many people know of this, but if many ppl do this, not sure will they change it in future haha.. But thankfully most of my unit about 50 percent all got a sudden news that we MR. They also didnt know until the 3rd last day of the ICT, mindef inform our CO that alot of people gonna MR due to the system calculation.

Some ICT mates, they always do their IPPT during our ICT because probably its easier to pass that way, not too sure. Those who did that, didnt MR, they have 1 or 2 more cycles haha..

orns.jpg
but they also say less than 6 days counted as 1 low key wor. now confusing.
 

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but the criteria for low key is 6 days or less according to mindef.. quite confusing.
So those go 2-5 days low key not counted?
doesnt matter. they will add it all up, averaged out.

so if say you had 5 days low key, and you already done a few ippt in fcc, example u went twice in each year, and u done 2 years, thats like 2 days. These 2 days can be added to that 5 days low key session u did, and it can be considered as high key liao. Of course you wont see an official response saying that it has become a high key, its all tabulated in the computer system once you fufill your 10 years ORNS.
 

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doesnt matter. they will add it all up, averaged out.

so if say you had 5 days low key, and you already done a few ippt in fcc, example u went twice in each year, and u done 2 years, thats like 2 days. These 2 days can be added to that 5 days low key session u did, and it can be considered as high key liao. Of course you wont see an official response saying that it has become a high key, its all tabulated in the computer system once you fufill your 10 years ORNS.
if for that low key I go 5 days but take IPPT inside( not counted as attendance), mean i only got 5 days for that workyear, my low key not counted? lol

I think i got it, thank!
 

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if for that low key I go 5 days but take IPPT inside( not counted as attendance), mean i only got 5 days for that workyear, my low key not counted? lol

I think i got it, thank!
your low key will always be counted, just that its a low key lo.

To MR, its a requirement to fufill 7 high keys. So the trick is just take ippt in FCC to earn those half days. It will add up eventually and u realise maybe after your 7 or 8 ICT, they give u certificate and watch. hehe.

Though the watch sucks, sold it away =x
 

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your low key will always be counted, just that its a low key lo.

To MR, its a requirement to fufill 7 high keys. So the trick is just take ippt in FCC to earn those half days. It will add up eventually and u realise maybe after your 7 or 8 ICT, they give u certificate and watch. hehe.

Though the watch sucks, sold it away =x
oh i see, lol,
i think Ns fit attendance cannot add to 7 days ba lol, they don't allow this lol.
only when you clock 1 low key+ add IPPT attendance then can clock that half day
 

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oh i see, lol,
i think Ns fit attendance cannot add to 7 days ba lol, they don't allow this lol.
only when you clock 1 low key+ add IPPT attendance then can clock that half day
yea its only for IPPT attendance in fcc.

all those RT or IPT type of stuff, i dont think so. If not like that those who went for 20 RT session so good meh? haha..
 

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My window closing next month and i dont see any slots available at all, all IPPTs now cancelled?
 

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Hey guys, if anyone needs further information I contacted the contact center 2 days ago and received a reply today.

We refer to your call made to NS Hotline on 28 Sep 21 regarding your current IPPT window. In view of the transition to Stabilisation Phase from 27 Sep 21 to 24 Oct 21, MINDEF will temporarily suspend the conduct of IPPT and physical NS FIT for SAF NSmen at FCCs, SAFRA gyms, FIT@Park, and FIT@HPB Quick HIIT from 27 Sep 21 until further notice. As a result, you may not be able to complete your IPPT requirement before the closure of your 2020/2021 window. In view of your situation, you are advised to contact us again after your window closes. We may provide the assistance to surface your case to the unit for their waiver consideration, subject to approval.
 
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