kopitiam kopi is diluted and expensive. 1 capsule around 70c and gao gao.lim kopi from kopitiam
yucks!yes i find starbucks capsules pretty good, actually better than nespresso ones. my fav one is the pike place capsules.
ya,but without tagging very difficult to find threadThat time gt a discussion on coffee machine rite
Paging @testerjp, that time you recommended wat machine again??
peasants drink from kopitiam, and is also very gao gao onekopitiam kopi is diluted and expensive. 1 capsule around 70c and gao gao.
no other manufacturers come close means what? i tot those aluminium capsules all look pretty similar.Nespresso patent is over but do you know they spent hundreds of millions or even over a billion to develop? That's why till date no other manufacturers come close in the same aluminium capsule.
The facility to roast, grind, fill and seal is non o2 environment to ensure the best possible preservation.
Despite that, the coffee still sux. So what to expect from compatibles?
When u say pull a shot, u mean use expresso machine?Buy coffee bean and grind then ownself pull a shot is cheaper.
I 1 kg beans -48 make about 50-65cups of coffee
Different one.no other manufacturers come close means what? i tot those aluminium capsules all look pretty similar.
idk leh im not impressed with nespresso at all, maybe ive always been focusing on their limited edition which are often hits & misses. instead i find starbucks better (more crema also) even tho the starbucks one is under nespresso.Different one.
Coffee is not a simple ingredient, I believe there's no other ingredient that has as complex and has that many aromatic profiles. It's many times of wine and chocolate iirc. One of the things coffee need to avoid most is oxidation because it kills the flavour, or may even turn them into astringents ( Think siap siap).
Coffee is best in its original bean form because the outer shell can protect the inside a little and reduce the rate of oxidation. Even in coffee bean form, the coffee can only last a few weeks before it oxidize too badly. Also, you don't use the coffee immediately after roast, you need to let it rest for a few days to degas first, the flavours will somehow develop to be fuller.
Once in powdered form, the bean is ripped into thousands of pieces. It will oxidise gao gao inside out, no where to hide. It only take a few minutes for powder to oxidise to the same extend as beans oxidise for months. That's why the saying that freshly ground coffee taste really different is 1000% true.
Nespresso spend so much money in R&D to build their own equipment to perfect the production. Sealing is also not so simple, it's using heat to seal and aluminium is easy to conduct heat. If the heat transfer to the powder, will also deteriorate the flavour. Ordinary canned food, normally must heat the sealed packages to kill the bacteria or whatever itself to preserve longer, u can't do it for coffee. The environment must be very clean.
For Nespresso, their Swiss factory is very high tech, it's like a sealed clean roob, you could actually visit and see from outside. They must do a lot of stuff in an o2 free environment and make very precise calculation to perfect the process. Some big companies try to replicate but very hard to match that type of commitment. Don't waste time with those small roasters who pack their own capsules by manual labour. They are totally not respecting coffee, don't know how they can call themselves gourmet/specialty. Don't even know their hand got wash or not while packing the powder.
Buy coffee bean and grind then ownself pull a shot is cheaper.
I 1 kg beans -48 make about 50-65cups of coffee
Starbucks coffee is normally super dark roast.idk leh im not impressed with nespresso at all, maybe ive always been focusing on their limited edition which are often hits & misses. instead i find starbucks better (more crema also) even tho the starbucks one is under nespresso.
u mean the starbucks capsules all dark roast one?? maybe thats why i like coz i like those dark & bitter type, i dont like acidic or fruity notes. when i add heavy cream its like just nice.Starbucks coffee is normally super dark roast.
They go super dark because their cups are huge and most consumers drink with a lot of milk. With so much milk, you need a super bitter coffee then can bring out its presence. If you drink their espresso neat, it's totally suicide.
Dark roast has more bitterness, less complexity, thicker body and more crema.
Some people just like that, especially elderlies
See what u like, no right or wrong one.
Ever since I started medium/light roast Black/filtered coffee, I don't drink milk coffees anymore, unless the cafe only has dark roasted beansStarbucks coffee is normally super dark roast.
They go super dark because their cups are huge and most consumers drink with a lot of milk. With so much milk, you need a super bitter coffee then can bring out its presence. If you drink their espresso neat, it's totally suicide.
Dark roast has more bitterness, less complexity, thicker body and more crema.
Some people just like that, especially elderlies
See what u like, no right or wrong one.
Nespresso is already at its best standard, but to me, it's still far from properly made espressos made from beans. For non fussy drinkers, then go with Nespresso lor.
But i scare of aluminium poisoning.
I never drink their nespresso capsules but their espresso in their outlets are all darkroast in singapore, and done in a way to make it even more bitter.u mean the starbucks capsules all dark roast one?? maybe thats why i like coz i like those dark & bitter type, i dont like acidic or fruity notes. when i add heavy cream its like just nice.