Who waiting for Intel Alder Lake? (12900K is 39% faster than 5950X)

[kimsix]

power lah intel!
price is around US$600 vs amd US$799

https://www.techspot.com/news/91341-intel-core-i9-12900k-beats-ryzen-9-5950x.html

 

[Entry Level PC]

nothing new.
Intel expected to win if they can go lower NM.

AMD play cheat using lower NM.

 

[Yongkit]

So powerful

I am thinking if need to buy new motherboard likely z690 only can compete at this performance level sort of make me think it is more expensive than 5950x

 

[kimsix]

5950x not just mulit-core beast, but usually is ryzen cpu with the best boost clocks. so mean intel eat amd single and multi-cores liao.

even zen3 with v-cache, at most 15% better than zen3.

buying intel shares nao!

 

[kimsix]

So powerful

I am thinking if need to buy new motherboard likely z690 only can compete at this performance level sort of make me think it is more expensive than 5950x

good that you hodl out with zen2, now can hoot alder lake for big uplift

 

[watzup_ken]

power lah intel!
price is around US$600 vs amd US$799

https://www.techspot.com/news/91341-intel-core-i9-12900k-beats-ryzen-9-5950x.html

You should not consider the price of the CPU in silo in my opinion. While the chip seems cheaper than a 5950X, you will need an expensive motherboard to drive the i7 and i9 to its full potential. Plus, you may need to factor in a new PSU because I recall Intel may be using the newer ATX12VO standard as oppose to the 24 pin motherboard connector. I don't believe all the boards will utilise the new connector, but I am not sure if Intel will enforce it hard.

As for performance, I do expect Alder Lake to bring a good performance bump to the table. However, I would recommend to take this result with a pinch of salt. The release is not too far, so best to wait for official reviews. The result is too optimistic in my opinion and it may not be representative of various workload.

 

[Yongkit]

Wait for the CPU to go for RAGE mode

Will need to equip fire extinguisher in pc room nowadays

 

[wwenze]

Isn't it ironic. Ass of Singularity is used often by AMD to showcase multicore performance during earlier Zen. Now Intel using it to show multicore efficiency which becomes key in TDP-limited scenarios.

In both cases we all know this means nothing since nobody plays that game anyway or actually uses Cinema 4D irl.

Question is did Alder Lake use 200W to achieve that performance lol.

 

[kimsix]

Isn't it ironic. Ass of Singularity is used often by AMD to showcase multicore performance during earlier Zen. Now Intel using it to show multicore efficiency which becomes key in TDP-limited scenarios.

In both cases we all know this means nothing since nobody plays that game anyway or actually uses Cinema 4D irl.

Question is did Alder Lake use 200W to achieve that performance lol.

haha cinema4d easy 30K for intel?
5950x had to use pbo and aircon room to reach 30K, around 220W

 

[watzup_ken]

haha cinema4d easy 30K for intel?
5950x had to use pbo and aircon room to reach 30K, around 220W

Is the 5950X overclocked? I would have thought the default power limit is around 142W. You need some serious cooling for 220W because that's still quite a lot of heat for the chiplet to dissipate.

 

[jasonwsc]

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/intel-cascade-lake-x-like-real-deal-wah-gpgt.6107658/
If performance CMI, better be cheap. I think Intel also knows this.

Whatever lah, u wan fanboy Intel also can.

 

[watzup_ken]

Fanboys have benefits meh? No point pledging your loyalty to any company, be it AMD or Intel. Whichever offers the best value CPU without causing a meltdown in my system will be my choice of CPU. But looking forward, future CPUs looks to be very power hungry.

 

[kimsix]

Is the 5950X overclocked? I would have thought the default power limit is around 142W. You need some serious cooling for 220W because that's still quite a lot of heat for the chiplet to dissipate.

yah have to use pbo settings so not stock. some other bros here chip better binned, easier to hit 30k. i believe should also read >200w on ppt readings.

 

[Psychedelic Senses]

Me. Have been waiting for intel to show hand against AMD for a while now since their failure of 11th gen CPUs. I'm guessing the 12th gen is releasing in November?

 

[transparos]

ryzen 6000 can win intel 12th not?

 

[congster2]

nothing new.
Intel expected to win if they can go lower NM.

AMD play cheat using lower NM.

This is such a dumb comment. Making progress in fabrication technology means cheating?

 

[Entry Level PC]

This is such a dumb comment. Making progress in fabrication technology means cheating?

it's not AMD's fabrication technology
it's TSMC's
if Intel and AMD both use the same nm,
Intel will win.

 

[Yongkit]

it's not AMD's fabrication technology
it's TSMC's
if Intel and AMD both use the same nm,
Intel will win.

Sadly Intel choose not to use the same nm

 

[Mach3.2]

They can do it too, faze up.

Competition is good, no point being a fanboy to a brand.

 

[Yongkit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-alchemist-xe-hpg-custom-design-graphics-cards-already-planned
Intel not enough capacity for GPU n6 technology process?

12th gen CPU only using n7 make me start to think they are not ready for n6 GPU process and the possibility of GPU more expensive than CPU from Intel since incurred more external costing.