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Old 12-11-2013, 11:41 AM   #16
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Thank you for your advice!!
I think for redemption on economy is okay.... but SQ starts to get 'stingy' when it comes to business and above...

waitlist = 3-4 days or 24 hrs b4 than they confirm

so better choose another date

hot fav australia / new zealand always waitlist , at least on one way (u can do a search till may 2014 or jun2014)

but europe redemption always available

i am searching for CHC flt for redemption thats why i know
been waiting available status for months
1 pax ok
2 pax start to have problem
3 pax haizzzzz

maybe i changing ZRH for holiday
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Old 12-11-2013, 02:40 PM   #17
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Thank you for your advice!!
I think for redemption on economy is okay.... but SQ starts to get 'stingy' when it comes to business and above...
i only know first class damn hard to redeem
bzi class still ok

think depend on flt sector u redeeming
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Old 13-11-2013, 08:49 PM   #18
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Hi guys,

can ask u all something, i'm new to this krisflyer thing.

For eg. to bkk, I saw that there's 3 different type of award.

Round-trip Economy Saver Award ticket - 25000
Round-trip Economy Standard Award ticket - 50000
Round-trip Economy Full Award ticket - 76000

What's the difference between these 3 awards?
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Old 13-11-2013, 10:06 PM   #19
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Standard will have better availability than Saver.
Full will have better availability than Standard.
They might open up Full first, if no one takes it up, then open for Standard, then for Saver.

Anyway, if you are looking at Standard and Full economy, please consider looking at Business and First saver first, this should cost less miles than Full economy. Please don't look at anything other than Saver redemptions.

I've had one redemption (many people flying together) with economy and business saver not available. Booked first saver (which was available) and waitlist for the desired class of service.
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Old 14-11-2013, 05:40 AM   #20
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I think the difference between the 3 is also the flexibility of the tickets right? Like cancellation policy and such is different?
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Old 14-11-2013, 09:19 AM   #21
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Standard will have better availability than Saver.
Full will have better availability than Standard.
They might open up Full first, if no one takes it up, then open for Standard, then for Saver.

Anyway, if you are looking at Standard and Full economy, please consider looking at Business and First saver first, this should cost less miles than Full economy. Please don't look at anything other than Saver redemptions.

I've had one redemption (many people flying together) with economy and business saver not available. Booked first saver (which was available) and waitlist for the desired class of service.
Oh ic, thanks for ur advice.
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Old 14-11-2013, 10:10 AM   #22
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Hi guys,

Would appreciate some advise. I'm intending to fly to New York next year July via SQ biz class. A biz class ticket for the flight costs $9k. Redemption would require 145K miles + $1200 for taxes & surcharge.

I would have about 100K miles by early next year. Should I use all my miles and buy the shortfall from SQ to redeem my ticket? or would it be better if I bought an economy class ticket and then use my miles to upgrade to a biz class ticket?

I checked the SQ website and it states that; Saver Upgrade: Economy to Business Class needs 135K miles ( I assume after the 15% online redemption discount, it would be 115K miles). Or is there any other better way for me to pay as little out of pocket cash to get the biz class ticket to NY? Thanks!
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Old 14-11-2013, 01:20 PM   #23
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Hi guys,

Would appreciate some advise. I'm intending to fly to New York next year July via SQ biz class. A biz class ticket for the flight costs $9k. Redemption would require 145K miles + $1200 for taxes & surcharge.

I would have about 100K miles by early next year. Should I use all my miles and buy the shortfall from SQ to redeem my ticket? or would it be better if I bought an economy class ticket and then use my miles to upgrade to a biz class ticket?

I checked the SQ website and it states that; Saver Upgrade: Economy to Business Class needs 135K miles ( I assume after the 15% online redemption discount, it would be 115K miles). Or is there any other better way for me to pay as little out of pocket cash to get the biz class ticket to NY? Thanks!
Firstly, buying the shortfall is the worst idea possible (unless you are short of a very small amount, in which case, it is debatable). SQ charges US$40 per 1000 miles. If you are need to buy 45k miles, you will need to pay US$1,800 or about SGD$2,300. Couple that with the tax you are paying, you'll be out of pocket for about $3,500.

If you want to upgrade an Economy Class ticket to business, your ticket needs to be in the highest bucket (when buying online, it's the one called 'Flexi'). These are a lot more expensive. SIN-JFK can be easily $3,000+.

So, the cheapest way is to see if you can actually accumulate the 45k miles necessary in the next few months, which depends on your spending patterns and need.

If not, buying a Flexi ticket and upgrading with miles is your best bet. Note that the tricky thing is that you cannot check on availability of upgrade unless you have a valid Flexi ticket. So, it is possible for you to buy the ticket and then later on find out that no upgrade is available.
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Old 14-11-2013, 02:29 PM   #24
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Get Amex Ascend card, ask to pay the annual fee so you get 5x miles for 1st 3 months.

Spend $7.5k in 1 month ( how? Buy some prepaid cards etc ).

Base earn rate - 0.83 miles / $

Spend $7.5k => 5 x 0.83 x 7500 = 31125 miles

Add 300 bonus miles per $500 above $1k spend in 1 month = 3900 miles

Add 5000 bonus miles for new AMEX card holder ( usually this also given to old cardholders ).

Total = 31125 + 3900 + 5000 = 40025 miles.

You will still lack some miles so you can pay annual fee on any of the other miles earning cards to get 10k miles.
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Old 14-11-2013, 02:42 PM   #25
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Firstly, buying the shortfall is the worst idea possible (unless you are short of a very small amount, in which case, it is debatable). SQ charges US$40 per 1000 miles. If you are need to buy 45k miles, you will need to pay US$1,800 or about SGD$2,300. Couple that with the tax you are paying, you'll be out of pocket for about $3,500.

If you want to upgrade an Economy Class ticket to business, your ticket needs to be in the highest bucket (when buying online, it's the one called 'Flexi'). These are a lot more expensive. SIN-JFK can be easily $3,000+.

So, the cheapest way is to see if you can actually accumulate the 45k miles necessary in the next few months, which depends on your spending patterns and need.

If not, buying a Flexi ticket and upgrading with miles is your best bet. Note that the tricky thing is that you cannot check on availability of upgrade unless you have a valid Flexi ticket. So, it is possible for you to buy the ticket and then later on find out that no upgrade is available.

Thanks for the advise
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Old 14-11-2013, 03:28 PM   #26
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Get Amex Ascend card, ask to pay the annual fee so you get 5x miles for 1st 3 months.

Spend $7.5k in 1 month ( how? Buy some prepaid cards etc ).

Base earn rate - 0.83 miles / $

Spend $7.5k => 5 x 0.83 x 7500 = 31125 miles

Add 300 bonus miles per $500 above $1k spend in 1 month = 3900 miles

Add 5000 bonus miles for new AMEX card holder ( usually this also given to old cardholders ).

Total = 31125 + 3900 + 5000 = 40025 miles.

You will still lack some miles so you can pay annual fee on any of the other miles earning cards to get 10k miles.

Thanks. Found the card application online.

American Express Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer Ascend Credit Card | American Express Singapore


But they mentioned that 2 x krisflyer miles is only for eligible purchases... and also no mention about the 5 x miles for the 1st 3 months?
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Old 14-11-2013, 03:35 PM   #27
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Thanks. Found the card application online.

American Express Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer Ascend Credit Card | American Express Singapore


But they mentioned that 2 x krisflyer miles is only for eligible purchases... and also no mention about the 5 x miles for the 1st 3 months?

You need to CALL in and ask them NOT to waive your annual fee, and pay the 1st year annual fee to get 5x miles for 1st 3 months offer.
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Old 14-11-2013, 04:02 PM   #28
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There are other ways to get miles to. Lots of other credit cards around that can convert to KF miles, look around for the best earning rates.

Would you be going to US before this trip? You can also do mileage runs, but usually these are more value from US domestically. Though it becomes very very tiring for 40k plus miles over very short periods, but these comes with status miles as well.
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Old 15-11-2013, 09:18 AM   #29
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There are other ways to get miles to. Lots of other credit cards around that can convert to KF miles, look around for the best earning rates.

Would you be going to US before this trip? You can also do mileage runs, but usually these are more value from US domestically. Though it becomes very very tiring for 40k plus miles over very short periods, but these comes with status miles as well.
Thanks! Unfortunately won't be going to US before my trip. What are status miles?
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Old 26-08-2014, 02:33 PM   #30
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Usually for short trips like economy to HK it's always more worth it to pay in cash than redeem miles
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