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Old 13-08-2019, 03:48 PM   #8536
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Did u ask to see HOH stocks?
Are u comfortable with online or SI clarity?
I didn't request to see HOH collection, though during the lesson some samples from HOH were shown and they do look good too. However, my SO emphasis was on cut hence was looking at SIC from JP only. Size wise, looking at 0.7+c and hence the various diamonds listed for comparison; they do fit within my budget. I asked about the 0.9c for reference.

Not comfortable with online, and would prefer clarity to be eye clean.
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Old 15-08-2019, 06:26 PM   #8537
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Hi diamond experts, my bf bought the below diamond ring for me. We didnt have time to go JP to compare and just bought the ring at Love and Co.

Able to advice if we got a good buy? The salesperson told us this is ideal cut. Is this ideal cut?

$7800 excluding setting.
Carat: 0.71
Colour: F
Clarity: SI1
Cut: Ex
Symmetry: Ex
Fluorescence: none
Crown angle: 35 degree
Pavilion angle: 40.6 degree
Depth: 61.8%
Table: 57%
100% (not sure if this refers to diameter of diamond): 5.71mm
Culet: 0.2%
Girdle: 0.23mm

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Old 15-08-2019, 07:56 PM   #8538
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Hi diamond experts, my bf bought the below diamond ring for me. We didnt have time to go JP to compare and just bought the ring at Love and Co.

Able to advice if we got a good buy? The salesperson told us this is ideal cut. Is this ideal cut?

$7800 excluding setting.
Carat: 0.71
Colour: F
Clarity: SI1
Cut: Ex
Symmetry: Ex
Fluorescence: none
Crown angle: 35 degree
Pavilion angle: 40.6 degree
Depth: 61.8%
Table: 57%
100% (not sure if this refers to diameter of diamond): 5.71mm
Culet: 0.2%
Girdle: 0.23mm
You can look back afew pages to the prices.
JP SIC 0.73 F VVS2 is $7.3k. For the Ideal cut 0.72 F VS2 is 5.4k.

Your diamond's proportions are good. Light performance will need the scopes. Your bf buy already no need to think so much. Not like you can change anything. Be happy and enjoy your ring!
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Old 15-08-2019, 09:13 PM   #8539
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You can look back afew pages to the prices.
JP SIC 0.73 F VVS2 is $7.3k. For the Ideal cut 0.72 F VS2 is 5.4k.

Your diamond's proportions are good. Light performance will need the scopes. Your bf buy already no need to think so much. Not like you can change anything. Be happy and enjoy your ring!
Ohh. Means L&C is overpriced. ☹️
L&C says they dont have ASET scopes. They only provide me a Sarine Diamond Report where it states the light performance to be:
Brilliance: Exceptional (exceptional is 5/5 of rating)
Sparkle: Exceptional
Fire: Exceptional
Symmetry: Very high (very high is 4/5 of rating)

Not sure if anyone know if the light performance based on the stats given above is considered good? 😂

Though cant do anything about it since already bought liao but just curious about the light performance 😂

Thanks!
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Old 15-08-2019, 10:46 PM   #8540
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Ohh. Means L&C is overpriced. ☹️
L&C says they dont have ASET scopes. They only provide me a Sarine Diamond Report where it states the light performance to be:
Brilliance: Exceptional (exceptional is 5/5 of rating)
Sparkle: Exceptional
Fire: Exceptional
Symmetry: Very high (very high is 4/5 of rating)

Not sure if anyone know if the light performance based on the stats given above is considered good? 😂

Though cant do anything about it since already bought liao but just curious about the light performance 😂

Thanks!
Sarine is a cheap and useless report, basically can treat as trash. Some retailer use it to ‘market’ their diamond only.
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Old 16-08-2019, 06:46 AM   #8541
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Hello Miltah and Kino and the rest of bros

Would you be able to share your expertise on this uneven circle. I am not sure what should I call that. Is this a concern??
It is very minor.
But since it’s a SIC, it’s up to u if u willing to accept and if not then continue searching
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Old 16-08-2019, 06:52 AM   #8542
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Ohh. Means L&C is overpriced. ☹️

Not sure if anyone know if the light performance based on the stats given above is considered good? 😂
I hope u get a better deal on the setting.

Sarine has its place in manufacturing but less in retail. I dun think anyone can tell u light performance based on numbers
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Old 16-08-2019, 07:36 PM   #8543
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Hello Miltah & folks,

Can I get some advice please, thanks in advance and greatly appreciated!

Went to JP today and shortlisted these few, the 2 marked with asterisk are the final 2 I shortlisted and waiting for them to send over scope images before posting it here. Do you guys think that the 0.53 D color is the best choice out of all these?

0.53 F VVS1 - $4100 (*)
0.53 D VS1 - $4200 (*)
0.54 F VVS2 - $4200(1)
0.52 E VVS2 - $4200 (2)
0.56 F VVS2 - $4350 (3)
0.63 F VS1 - $4450 (4 HOH)
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Old 16-08-2019, 11:06 PM   #8544
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Hi everyone,

Would like to seek your advice if a dated GIA certificate is something to be concerned about? Is there a possibility that it is a "second-hand" diamond or simply just unwanted by customers? The GIA certificate I'm looking at is dated September 2017. I'm a little concerned if this has been used or rejected before, since it has already been 2 years.

Also, do you know if a surface graining characteristic is a serious issue? Will it have any negative impact on the light performance on the diamond?

Thank you for taking time to help!
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Old 17-08-2019, 05:54 AM   #8545
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Can I get some advice please, thanks in advance and greatly appreciated!

Went to JP today and shortlisted these few, the 2 marked with asterisk are the final 2 I shortlisted and waiting for them to send over scope images before posting it here. Do you guys think that the 0.53 D color is the best choice out of all these?

0.53 F VVS1 - $4100 (*)
0.53 D VS1 - $4200 (*)
0.54 F VVS2 - $4200(1)
0.52 E VVS2 - $4200 (2)
0.56 F VVS2 - $4350 (3)
0.63 F VS1 - $4450 (4 HOH)
Clarity is graded 10x magnified so u won’t see anything with all those.
I’m color blind until H so D is wasted on me. Some may also find D too icy blue whereas an F might have a slight warmth which may enhance fire in some pple’s eyes
So my choice is (1)

But there’s been some really good HOH, so it’s up to u to decide
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Old 17-08-2019, 07:28 AM   #8546
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Hi everyone,

Would like to seek your advice if a dated GIA certificate is something to be concerned about? Is there a possibility that it is a "second-hand" diamond or simply just unwanted by customers? The GIA certificate I'm looking at is dated September 2017. I'm a little concerned if this has been used or rejected before, since it has already been 2 years.

Also, do you know if a surface graining characteristic is a serious issue? Will it have any negative impact on the light performance on the diamond?

Thank you for taking time to help!
2 yrs is hardly a long time. I’ve seen longer.
Its not an issue for me. But u should ask for a new grading report to make sure.
Frankly there’s no traceability so how would u know that a new date on a recent graded stone is not one that has been traded in previously?

But for surface graining that’s dependent.
Some can affect.
Just imagine a piece of plastic/glass. U take a sandpaper n rub it abit. That’s pretty much surface graining


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Old 17-08-2019, 10:08 PM   #8547
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Thanks Miltah! Do I request for re-grading from the jeweller? Would the diamond then have 2 GIA number inscriptions on it since a new grading will produce a new number?

I see. That looks pretty bad! If the clarity is vvs2, does it prove anything that the graining might not be that bad?
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Old 18-08-2019, 08:35 AM   #8548
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Thanks Miltah! Do I request for re-grading from the jeweller? Would the diamond then have 2 GIA number inscriptions on it since a new grading will produce a new number?

I see. That looks pretty bad! If the clarity is vvs2, does it prove anything that the graining might not be that bad?
I would definitely ask to regrade. The inscription will be the same, it will not produce a new no.
But on my earlier comments, there’s nothing stopping a jeweller from polishing off the inscription n regrade so essentially u get a new no.

Every surface graining is different. What are the first 3 inclusions under the symbols on the report?
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Old 18-08-2019, 11:54 AM   #8549
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I would definitely ask to regrade. The inscription will be the same, it will not produce a new no.
But on my earlier comments, there’s nothing stopping a jeweller from polishing off the inscription n regrade so essentially u get a new no.

Every surface graining is different. What are the first 3 inclusions under the symbols on the report?
It just states pinpoint and surface graining.
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Old 18-08-2019, 02:59 PM   #8550
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It just states pinpoint and surface graining.
It’s ranked in terms of severity
If the first one is surface graining that means it’s the grade setting clarity
If the first one is pinpoint then maybe can consider as the surface graining may not be so severe.

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