Buying gold from UOB

ykau

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Hi guys, having a dilemma whether to buy the cast kilobar from UOB.

Their selling selling and buying rate for 10th May 2012 is

CAST BARS SGD 1 KILOBAR 68855.57 64111.00 ( Inclusive of GST)

I checked with them a few things:

1. Does the bar comes with certificate? Ans: No. only with UOB receipt.
2. Will the GST be exempted ? Ans: Yes, but must wait till 1st of October 2012.

So should i buy or don't buy? sigh....
 

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Hi guys, having a dilemma whether to buy the cast kilobar from UOB.

Their selling selling and buying rate for 10th May 2012 is

CAST BARS SGD 1 KILOBAR 68855.57 64111.00 ( Inclusive of GST)

I checked with them a few things:

1. Does the bar comes with certificate? Ans: No. only with UOB receipt.
2. Will the GST be exempted ? Ans: Yes, but must wait till 1st of October 2012.

So should i buy or don't buy? sigh....

Don't buy. You're basically writing a $4,000 cheque to UOB (the spread) and a $4800 cheque to IRAS (the GST)

You could save yourself a lot of money by buying a gold exchange-traded fund.
 

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Hi guys, having a dilemma whether to buy the cast kilobar from UOB.
Their selling selling and buying rate for 10th May 2012 is
CAST BARS SGD 1 KILOBAR 68855.57 64111.00 ( Inclusive of GST)
I checked with them a few things:
1. Does the bar comes with certificate? Ans: No. only with UOB receipt.
2. Will the GST be exempted ? Ans: Yes, but must wait till 1st of October 2012.
So should i buy or don't buy? sigh....
Don't buy. You're basically writing a $4,000 cheque to UOB (the spread) and a $4800 cheque to IRAS (the GST)
You could save yourself a lot of money by buying a gold exchange-traded fund.
Yeah, I believe I have done enough research to correct Shiny Things answer [childish grin:D]
Current price(s) fr their site.
CAST BARS (SGD) 1KILOBAR Sell:68855.57; Buy:64111.00
GOLD CERTIFICATE(SGD) 1KILOCERT Sell:64351.00, Buy:64151.00

I take the true price of the 1kg bar to be $64,351 (acc UOB cert= bar, just that for now, like hamburger/ biscuit, U pay GST to IRAS through UOB to take it home (and consume it by wearing it as a pendant)), 64351*1.07= 68855.57 ; the $4504.57 for GST will contribute to operation costs towards the democratic conduct of the coming Hougang by-elections (just jokin but U get the drift).

For having to check if U tampered with the bar upon your wish to return it to UOB, UOB will charge U the usual $200 cert spread + additional $40 for the inconvenience that U had caused them (U could have taken just the cert).

68,855.57 is the total take home price for the bar (GST inclusive).

If U think gold price will increase and trust UOB then why not just take the cert, wait until October then take the bar and don't pay any GST on 1kg bar. I doubt UOB will be liquidated (bankrupt) before Oct2012 so I think that that's quite a safe bet, alternatively, pay UOB $36 p.a. to keep the quantity for U (unallocated gold means UOB can later give U any bar and not a particular bar).

Only problem is if there is bank run on UOB then good luck but think MAS capital requirement for SG banks quite strong so U don't have to practice running, at least not for now, probably better paying the $36 p.a. to UOB than keep the bar under your pillow. (lost = almost impossible to retrieve I think)

Rgds
C6.

Disclaimer: This does NOT constitute any form of professional advise, any investment based upon my comments is at the sole discretion and risk of the user.
 
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wah! so expensive.. :eek:

so when the price will go down? :(

How will anyone know when the price will go down? If anyone know or have some insider info you think anyone will share it? Expensive or not is very subjective and differs from one person to another...
 

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How will anyone know when the price will go down? If anyone know or have some insider info you think anyone will share it? Expensive or not is very subjective and differs from one person to another...

oh.. u r right :)

bro, so do u think, isit worth? now is the best time to buy gold?
 
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oh.. u r right :)

bro, so do u think, isit worth? now is the best time to buy gold?

You need to know your purpose of buying gold and no one can advice you anything if they don't know your personality and risk tolerance and your financial goals... Different people buy gold for different reasons, so what is yours?

I cannot tell you if now is a good time or a bad time to buy gold is I am not a qualified financial consultant.. Go and seek the professional advice not the free advice from consultant who are trying to sell you the company products to earn commission...
 

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You need to know your purpose of buying gold and no one can advice you anything if they don't know your personality and risk tolerance and your financial goals... Different people buy gold for different reasons, so what is yours?

I cannot tell you if now is a good time or a bad time to buy gold is I am not a qualified financial consultant.. Go and seek the professional advice not the free advice from consultant who are trying to sell you the company products to earn commission...

ok thanks bro ! :)
 

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bro, if want buy/sell gold from oub bank, just go to the bank isit?

Not all UOB banch can buy and sell physical gold and only one branch can do it which is at UOB main branch... Other than UOB, Bank of China and the 3 authorized Perth Mint distributors in Singapore and Mustaffa sell gold... For information on UOB:

UOB : Precious Metals
 

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Gold is universal.
U can buy or sell anywhere and to anyone. =D

PS: Silver too. To a lesser extend at the moment.
 

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Don't buy. You're basically writing a $4,000 cheque to UOB (the spread) and a $4800 cheque to IRAS (the GST)

You could save yourself a lot of money by buying a gold exchange-traded fund.

Hi
Am looking to trade GLD ETF. can advise if there are management fees for this ETF and how does this gets charged to investors ?
 

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???management fees for SPDR GLD ETF

Hi
Am looking to trade GLD ETF. can advise if there are management fees for this ETF and how does this gets charged to investors ?
I understand that the folks at SPDR gold ETF 'makan' 0.4% of the gold in store as their own pocket money every year... (they say tt this is the admin fee for keeping the real gold safe and sound(plus their salary for running the show and perhaps some govt taxes as well)).

So as they 'makan' 0.4% every year, the amount of gold per ETF of course gets lesser and lesser (it began w 0.1ounce per ETF)- so obviously, there is now less than 0.1ozgold per unit of GLD ETF..

As I once asked and now understand (I believe ShinyThings later answered), the website at Singapore "GLD 10US$" - Welcome - SPDR Gold Shares currently shows the following:

http://www.spdrgoldshares.com/sites/sg/
SGX "GLD 10US$" Share Price: US$169.00
Data source: Singapore Exchange; data delayed 20 mins
Current Indicative Intraday Value of GLD 10US$: US$169.01; Data delayed 5-10 seconds.

Gold Spot Price
Bid: US$1,743.50
Offer: US$1,744.00
Mid: US$1,743.75
data source: thebulliondesk.com; data delayed 5-10 sec, 15/10/2012

Total Gold in Trust
Tonnes: 1,340.52
Ounces: 43,099,106.50
Value US$76,134,526,325.56
So thus, due to the slow attrition of gold per ETF, the indicative price of 1 ETF (0.1oz gold) is US$169.01 despite the world market Bid for 1oz physical gold being: US$1,743.50- the approx USD$50/oz discount in value of the ETF being what has been moth eaten away as admin fees by the company since inception (it works kinda like a unit trust/ shares in terms of how the managing company collects its fees).

UOB as I've asked does similarly as the ETF (mgt fees) on its savings bk acc (0.25%p.a.; subject to min 1.44g p.a.) but for the gold cert account, u actually have to come out w $36/kg p.a. separately to pay them. U do the maths but add in remisier fees (0.7%- return ticket), me thinks that UOB gold cert is cheapest (think spread @200/70k= ~0.3+%).

UOB Gold prices in STG: https://uniservices1.uobgroup.com/s...This=true&TB_iframe=true&width=560&height=400

Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no financial adviser but this is what I believe.
 
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