Quit N(T) stream and study for O levels!!!

[HaizHaiz]

For those studying in N(T), I strongly advise you to quit and study for 'o' levels. N levels is not recognized anywhere around the world. United Kingdom had scrapped CSE(equivalent to our n level) for more than 30 years, labeling it too stigmatizing; Australia foundation program/certificate IV don't consider N level(3 o levels are acceptable); Malaysia SPM is equivalent to O level, there is no N level equivalence. A partial 'o' levels cert is far more recognised than a full n level cert.

I was from N(T) stream too. During sec 3, I found out N level has no international equivalent. I told my teacher I wanted to take O level, but they condemned me, stating that I have no chance of passing. Subsequently, I quit sec 3 and took 'o' level exam as a private candidate a year later. I achieved 4As, 1B and 1C. I hope N(T) student understand that O levels isn't hard if you study. I used to fail N(T) level maths getting grades like 15/100. However, I got A1 for both e-maths and a-maths for o levels. You just have to study - I bought express stream textbook from sec 1 - 4 and read thr, do and re-do ALL assessment books available at popular bookstore, As will come automatically. Note: Chinese and English are harder to study; I get B and C respectively despite putting in the same effort as other subjects over the course of one year.

For those in N(T), just quit and study for o levels. Adults in prison studied o level in under one year, some of them achieved 5 A1s. The news link: Kaki Bukit Prison School produces top O-Level private candidate

Why can't you do so?

 

[bugmenot45]

Can consider taking the IGCSE too
School Exams | British Council Singapore

 

[Kyoji83]

Correction!

At the end of Form 3 (Sec 3), the Penilaian Menengah Rendah (PMR, formerly known as Sijil Pelajaran Rendah (SRP) or Lower Certificate of Education (LCE)) or Lower Secondary Evaluation is taken by students which is equal to GCE N in Singapore.

Apart from Malaysia, I cannot find an education level in the world with the same standing as GCE N in Singapore.

For those studying in N(T), I strongly advise you to quit and study for 'o' levels. N levels is not recognized anywhere around the world. United Kingdom had scrapped CSE(equivalent to our n level) for more than 30 years, labeling it too stigmatizing; Australia foundation program/certificate IV don't consider N level(3 o levels are acceptable); Malaysia SPM is equivalent to O level, there is no N level equivalence. A partial 'o' levels cert is far more recognised than a full n level cert.

I was from N(T) stream too. During sec 3, I found out N level has no international equivalent. I told my teacher I wanted to take O level, but they condemned me, stating that I have no chance of passing. Subsequently, I quit sec 3 and took 'o' level exam as a private candidate a year later. I achieved 4As, 1B and 1C. I hope N(T) student understand that O levels isn't hard if you study. I used to fail N(T) level maths getting grades like 15/100. However, I got A1 for both e-maths and a-maths for o levels. You just have to study - I bought express stream textbook from sec 1 - 4 and read thr, do and re-do ALL assessment books available at popular bookstore, As will come automatically. Note: Chinese and English are harder to study; I get B and C respectively despite putting in the same effort as other subjects over the course of one year.

For those in N(T), just quit and study for o levels. Adults in prison studied o level in under one year, some of them achieved 5 A1s. The news link: Kaki Bukit Prison School produces top O-Level private candidate

Why can't you do so?

 

[Sweet&SaltyPopcorn]

I not from N(T) but congrats sia..

 

[Kyoji83]

I am from NT. If the information is available to me in the past, I strongly believe I will not take the unfair & prolong public education system. This is a very good experience sharing =)

I not from N(T) but congrats sia..

 

[Sweet&SaltyPopcorn]

haha not to worry..if a person is capable enough to undertake the rigorous O levels, i would say go ahead...but secondary teachers would not say this to students as they themselves believe it is better to go through the traditional route...that is why TS might receive such comments..it is common but cannot be blamed because the gap is too wide. so could you say in this case, such would be the teachers' fault or others???

 

[HaizHaiz]

haha not to worry..if a person is capable enough to undertake the rigorous O levels, i would say go ahead...but secondary teachers would not say this to students as they themselves believe it is better to go through the traditional route...that is why TS might receive such comments..it is common but cannot be blamed because the gap is too wide. so could you say in this case, such would be the teachers' fault or others???

The problem with the so called 'traditional route' is antiquated. I mentioned earlier, UK (the origin of our sg education system) had scrapped N level equivalents (known as CSE) for like 30 years. Currently everyone take GCSE (o level equivalence). Like Kyoji83 stated, there are virtually no n level equivalence. Japan, USA, Australia, UK, Taiwan, Hong Kong have mainstream education that allow ALL students (except those that quit) achieving an O or A level equivalences. I can't see why singapore cannot do so, unless one considers the general Singaporeans dumber than those of other nations

Another problem is few understand the situation. Can't blame gov school teacher either, do you expect she/he to tell the entire NT class to quit mainstream gov education and go private to study? Seriously, he will lose his job in no time.

Neither my teachers, friends or family inform me about this; it was the internet. I couldn't believe that I had been going to school trying to get an unrecognized cert

The gap between O level and N level is grossly exaggerated. O level syllabus don't require you to be smarter, it just require you to work harder.

 

[HaizHaiz]

I am from NT. If the information is available to me in the past, I strongly believe I will not take the unfair & prolong public education system. This is a very good experience sharing =)

Actually, there is also good thing about sg education system. They allow anyone 16 and above to take O levels, no other requirement except science subjects. They don't you care whether you have PSLE, N level or no cert...

If you didn't like your n level cert, u can take o level next year?

 

[voiceoflove]

Sec 4N(A) students who obtained an ELMAB3 (English, Math, Best 3 Subjects) raw aggregate score of 11 points or better(excluding CCA bonus points) at the GCE ‘N’ Level examination will be eligible to apply to the PFP, provided that they have also obtained the following:

Nanyang Polytechnic | GCE 'N' Level

 

[Ad5eL1228]

Hey there!May i know where private school did you go to?

 

[Kyoji83]

I graduated with NT GCE N & take up GCE O Math & English modules in ITE for NTC-2 (Nitec) courses. This is the reason why I know NT are not trained in GCE O syllabus. You are putting someone who are trained only in advanced pri sch education (NT) to go for secondary school leaving exam (GCE O), what are the chance of NT will have a good result in GCE O to go Polytechnic or JC?

Actually, there is also good thing about sg education system. They allow anyone 16 and above to take O levels, no other requirement except science subjects. They don't you care whether you have PSLE, N level or no cert...

If you didn't like your n level cert, u can take o level next year?

 

[Kyoji83]

I would like to add on that base on WISE programmes (alternate secondary school education) conducted by ITE & directed by MOE, NT GCE N graduate can only start at S3 module for WISE programmes (equal to Sec 3 NA) which mean NT GCE N is only equal to Sec 2 NA level. This is the reason why MOE only allow NT GCE N graduate to go Nitec course while NA GCE N graduate have the options to chose GCE O at Sec 5, PFP or Higher Nitec course.

Sec 4N(A) students who obtained an ELMAB3 (English, Math, Best 3 Subjects) raw aggregate score of 11 points or better(excluding CCA bonus points) at the GCE ‘N’ Level examination will be eligible to apply to the PFP, provided that they have also obtained the following:

Nanyang Polytechnic | GCE 'N' Level

 

[heyyguyzzz28]

how to get out from sec 3 n(t) level and take o level?

 

[Kyoji83]

According to the Compulsory Education (CE) Act, a child of ‘compulsory school age’ is one who is above the age of 6 years and who has not yet attained the age of 15 years.

1) If you fall under this age group, you can just quit public school as long as you can provide supporting documents that you are still having education like studying in private school or attending home schooling (subjected to approval from MOE).

2) If you fall outside this age group, no one will care if you leave school or not.

Regardless if you fall under point 1 or 2, you may register as a private candidate for GCE O if you satisfy the minimum age requirement of 15 years (regardless if you have any education, attending any school or not).

how to get out from sec 3 n(t) level and take o level?