Minister's Salary averages at 30+ months!

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Ministers' Salary pegging to the top 4 earners will always keep their salary high and stable. Even if the current top 4 earners goes bankrupt, their salary will be pegged to the next top 4 earners, this keep their salary high regardless of Economy crisis affacting whatever sectors.
 

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MP is 10,000 allowance per mth... not sure if is only during parliament in session or not...

plus all the directorships....

*shrug

MP is $15K per month.

I have no questions on ministers drawing salaries close to what CEOs of blue chip companies are drawing. But the recent 25% increase on President, seems to be the 1st step to increasing the pay on the rest of the ministers.

The other thing is no MPs should be allowed to hold directorships in other companies regardless of whether it is executive or non-executive positions. It just isn't right when voters vote full time MPs in who don't give full time to their roles.

Any form of increment now is seriously obscene:(
 

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MP is 10,000 allowance per mth... not sure if is only during parliament in session or not...

plus all the directorships....

*shrug

i think all the directorship is undisclose amount.. that is not known to the public.. maybe 1k for not doing anything and some other amount for a smoother sail in business connection.
unlike other country where the official receive bribe to get the business smooth going. we are a clean country and thus the full time minister that are to serve the pubic and given directorship in private sector..
jus my own opinion.. not to slander anyone
 

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i think all the directorship is undisclose amount.. that is not known to the public.. maybe 1k for not doing anything and some other amount for a smoother sail in business connection.
unlike other country where the official receive bribe to get the business smooth going. we are a clean country and thus the full time minister that are to serve the pubic and given directorship in private sector..
jus my own opinion.. not to slander anyone

When you work in any corporate company or even sitting on director board, all directorship and work must be declared for transparency and conflict of interest.

As a full time MP, I am surprised that such things are going unnoticed and no question of accountability. How do we know that if there is a rail extension for MRT and the work is tendered to a MP who is sitting on the directorship of the construction company?

It just doesn't look right no matter how we look at it. If here we have the govt saying that they are getting high salaries to prevent corruption, the amount that they are being paid should be good enough for them and their family. Why is there still a need to undertake directorships in other companies? A case of money still not enough?
 

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'...the expansion of GRCs from 3 to 6 members in the years following was total unnecessary.'

Re: Minister's Salary averages at 30+ months!
MP is $15K per month.
I have no questions on ministers drawing salaries close to what CEOs of blue chip companies are drawing. But the recent 25% increase on President, seems to be the 1st step to increasing the pay on the rest of the ministers.
The other thing is no MPs should be allowed to hold directorships in other companies regardless of whether it is executive or non-executive positions. It just isn't right when voters vote full time MPs in who don't give full time to their roles.
Any form of increment now is seriously obscene:(
Actually I've no qualms of MPs holding directorships. They just have to balance their MP work- many have day jobs, so if you're a director, should be okay- however, when standing for election/ in your 'Facebook' page, you should be transparent as to what directorships you hold.
You should be open and transparent about these when asked by your constituents.
What I think is important however is for the GRC system to return to its 1988 roots of 3members per GRC [chart] and there by leave half or > half of parliament as single seat constituencies; if not to further PAP hegemony, the expansion of GRCs from 3 to 6 members in the years following was total unnecessary.

That would allow more competition, more vibrancy, more independent participation etc- every candidate in GE2006 was someone from a political party- nobody contested the election as an independent candidate. So much for the demise of original creativity and independent representation, now only political parties dominate the scene. How then would a citizen's interest in politics be spurred- and how then would you have the necessary momentum to develop 4G leaders.

As it seems, Singapore will always be dependent on geriatric leaders who will eventually die in service. MM, SM etc-> not much different from N Korea in that sense as I believe.

As mentioned, the default way in which PAP wields the 'whip' in parliament ('Singapore lifts whip on orchestrated parliament' [AFP 21Mar2002]: "The free vote is given to them when they make a request, and the Whip will consider. In the past it was simply: 'No you can't even request',' he said.") makes many people feel that besides entering parliament through GRCs ( 'GRCs make it easier to find top talent: SM' [ST 26June2006], when SM Goh was reported saying "Without some assurance of a good chance of winning at least their first election, many able and successful young Singaporeans may not risk their careers to join politics"), many in Singapore shun politics because the choice is like one between the devil and the deep blue sea. Selling your soul to hegemony on one hand vs. being 'fixed' by the PAP on the other.
This Hobson's choice's choice leaves the youthful wandering mind to consider migration, others dissociate with reality and lead a mundane existence of compliance.

References:
- 'PM Lee says countries worldwide respect and admire Singapore's proven system': "Suppose you had 10, 15, 20 opposition members in Parliament...I'm going to spend all my time thinking what's the right way to fix them, to buy my supporters votes, how can I solve this week's problem and forget about next year's challenges?.. " [CNA:03May2006][YouTube/@1m10s]


- 'Freedom for Sale': "Don’t risk real freedom for short-term material gain.. Our civil liberties are in jeopardy and we are to blame. We have reduced democracy to the right to make and spend money... (in return for) a temporary blanket of security and what turned out to be an illusory prosperity" [The Times, 7Sept2009]
 
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Hahahah, so all the while Singaporeans are complaining about the ministers' salaries but in fact, it is the bonuses that is really the biggest component.
 

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When you work in any corporate company or even sitting on director board, all directorship and work must be declared for transparency and conflict of interest.

As a full time MP, I am surprised that such things are going unnoticed and no question of accountability. How do we know that if there is a rail extension for MRT and the work is tendered to a MP who is sitting on the directorship of the construction company?

It just doesn't look right no matter how we look at it. If here we have the govt saying that they are getting high salaries to prevent corruption, the amount that they are being paid should be good enough for them and their family. Why is there still a need to undertake directorships in other companies? A case of money still not enough?

since when would money be enough.. all human are greedy no matter how much u gave them.. the more they have the more greedy they become and will never be content and will nv be able to see how the common people live and eventually lose touch with the ground..
 

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since when would money be enough.. all human are greedy no matter how much u gave them.. the more they have the more greedy they become and will never be content and will nv be able to see how the common people live and eventually lose touch with the ground..

I don't know about you guys, while I love money like everyone else, I make sure every cents I made are from "clean" means & I do not crave money from illegal or unethnical means.

Maybe thats why I am so poor. But at least I sleep well at night.

I cannot understand how these Ministers, who suppose to help people, can without guilt,drawn such slaries & bonuses when so many people are battling inflation & debts.
 

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im sure they slp well when they have so much money to buy the best bed, best pillow and a bundle of very very very comfortable homes to sleep in..
im poor also. but i snore tru the night everyday due to tireness no matter hw bad my bed is.. im sure they need good bed coz not tired enuff as not doing anything in the job they suppose to do which is to serve the people..
 

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im sure they slp well when they have so much money to buy the best bed, best pillow and a bundle of very very very comfortable homes to sleep in..
im poor also. but i snore tru the night everyday due to tireness no matter hw bad my bed is.. im sure they need good bed coz not tired enuff as not doing anything in the job they suppose to do which is to serve the people..

The parliament seats are very comfortable, always get to find MPs slouching and snoozing in their seats. I mean if they are getting good allowances, at least show some professionalism on national TV. But sadly, the camera focus will be switched and edited. To where, whenever Mr Low and Mr Chiam gets bombarded by various MPs and they think they have scored a crucial point over these opposition MPs, that is when the focus will be on these 2 opposition MPs.
 

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The parliament seats are very comfortable, always get to find MPs slouching and snoozing in their seats. I mean if they are getting good allowances, at least show some professionalism on national TV. But sadly, the camera focus will be switched and edited. To where, whenever Mr Low and Mr Chiam gets bombarded by various MPs and they think they have scored a crucial point over these opposition MPs, that is when the focus will be on these 2 opposition MPs.

I beg to disagree. There has to be a reason so many of them don't attend parliament, and I postulate it has to do with the chairs! =:p
 

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I beg to disagree. There has to be a reason so many of them don't attend parliament, and I postulate it has to do with the chairs! =:p

Too many external directorship meetings in external companies preventing them from attending parliament meetings? Are you trying to tell us this?:s13:
 

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Too many external directorship meetings in external companies preventing them from attending parliament meetings? Are you trying to tell us this?:s13:

haha. no time for the nation lah.. singapore so small at parliament discuss about the people for wad.. mite as well attend all the companies meeting earn money better.. and those attend muz be having late nite meeting so not enuff slp lor..
 

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Hehe die die must collect their mulit-million dollars--to the extend of deceiving themselves that "majority of the population were not concerned about it"

(Alamak, didn't know that I belong to the "minority"!!!)

http://www.todayonline.com/Singapor...ority-not-concerned-about-ministerial-pay--SM
Majority not concerned about ministerial pay: SM
by Ian De Cotta and Ong Dai Lin 04:46 AM May 03, 2011

SINGAPORE - Describing the issue of ministerial salaries as the Opposition's "favourite flogging horse", Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong said yesterday that the "majority" of the population were not concerned about it.

Speaking after a walkabout in Marine Parade Group Representation Constituency (GRC), Mr Goh said: "All they want (to know) is: Have we produced jobs for them, can we look after their medical care, can their medical care be affordable, can we cope with the cost of living, can we deliver good housing at affordable prices?

"These are the issues that are of concern to them and these are the issues the Government is addressing."

Still, Mr Goh acknowledged that the issue - which has been "flogged over so many" General Elections - has cost the PAP "some votes".

"But, by and large, the people understand," said Mr Goh.

The Singapore Democratic Party has proposed benchmarking the ministerial salaries to the national median wage - instead of being pegged to the top six professions.

Noting that the formula used "depends on who you are targeting", Mr Goh said: "You go and examine the pay of the chairmen, CEOs of the public-listed companies in Singapore ... every CEO is earning twice the ministers' pay, even more. CapitaLand's (CEO) easily earns about S$10 million. Why should they come and join us in politics?"

Speaking at a press conference yesterday, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said the PAP Government would have to explain its stand on ministerial salaries "again and again, during times when temperature is not so high".

Noting that the topic has been debated "many times over the years", Mr Lee said: "The last time we made changes was in 2007 and we had three days of parliamentary debate - full debate ... there was a full airing of the issues and explanations on why we think this is an honest, sound system which will enable Singapore to have the best team of not just ministers, but judges, civil servants, Singapore Armed Forces officers ... all the public sector."

The Prime Minister added: "None of those arguments get rehearsed in rallies. When it comes to rallies, you just throw big numbers down, and excite envy and disaffection. But I suppose that is the nature of election campaign."

Ultimately, Singaporeans should "look at the results" for the country, he said.

"It has delivered a Government which has overall served Singapore competently and well. And compared to other countries, we haven't done badly," said Mr Lee.

Foreign Minister George Yeo was also asked for his take on ministerial salaries. Speaking on the sidelines on a constituency event, he conceded that it was an "awkward question because I have a vested interest in this".

Still, he noted that the country's key advantage was its public administration - and the remuneration for this sector has to be competitive.

Said Mr Yeo: "If they are not, then the people whom they are regulating, managing or trying to attract to Singapore would be smarter and more able than they are - which means they would not be able to do things they have done."

He added: "The next question (is) whether the political service should be detached from the admin service? If we ... say, OK we pay the political service differently, there will be all kinds of problems."
 

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if majority of the population is not concerned about ministerial salary, then i worry.
 
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