Requirements to sign on SPF through Direct-Entry Inspector

[Idme231]

haha i ***** pissed he trying to pick fight for like seriously useless things. feels like some kid havent even serve NS dk anything abt pes status wan kpkb abt pes status.

i LOL at the part he kpkb me abt the eyesight issue then im like "dude, been there before, i know exactly wat entails PES B2".

sigh..this kid needs to know who he messing wif

Why bother quarrelling in such a huge forum lol
There is other persons ya can talk to.
Ignorance is bliss.

 

[reddevil0728]

YES i am from a coy during my NS (i ORD last year Jul not like somebody here who keyboard warrior prob doesnt know anything abt us Pes B2) and i can guarantee tat ur eyesight above 1k = down pes.

BMI is a factor to determine for regulars. idk how much will it play a part in recruitment, but jus ask any regular wat happens if u fail BMI. know liao then come talk to me here.

TS wans answers and i can help, so i say wat i wanna say. u got problem wif wat i say u can leave this thread one don need come here try be hero fight wif everyone here. ppl like u are jus like tat poor chap at geylang, stare at others only kenna hospitalised!

I want answer also, I want you to answer how you "guarantee tat ur eyesight above 1k = down pes"

I don't think it was ever a question as to whether BMI is a factor or not, the point I am trying to make is, did TS even expressed concern about weight or BMI issue? I thought TS' question is actually very specific, why is there a need to probe so much?

TS wants answer, but how are you going to guarantee that your "answer" can actually help and not give misinformation, i.e. fake news? Sure, so based on your principle it goes both ways right, "I say wat I wanna say", so I am also saying what I want to say is it? so why are you the one having problem with what I say, so why don't you leave the thread?

Somehow it feels like you are the one trying to pick a fight and threatening to put people in hospital?

i think tats how private uni works~ like i mentioned to tat a*hole, best answer to whether the degree is recognised still falls on the recruitment side.

i stand by my words tat BMI and Pes are the 2 biggest potential setbacks for TS to consider

when someone has to stoop to the level of hurling insults and vulgarities and don't dare type the full thing out, it may very well mean that the person have lost the argument hence the need to use the extreme.

You can stand by all your words that BMI and PES are definitely the 2 biggest potential setbacks for TS to consider, but my question is still, did TS ever mention anything about being concerned about weight/BMI issue?

hi there~

now got new medical ruling (at least in SAF) they are gonna broaden the PES B categories to include B1 and B2 (existing) till B3, B4..not sure how many but so far i heard till got B4 le.

^^ confirmed by Army Recruitment office. if tat a*hole wanna kpkb me i don mind the challenge at all.

p.s gonna quote tat **** for daring to challenge me la cos well he prob nvr sign on himself before so dk shyt but wanna stir. fyi i tried signing SPF before so i have a pretty clear understanding how it works, and also i have my own NS case (i also tried signing on Navy back then) to back up my evidence. so don go bitching say need evidence to back up my words. i dare u to come prove to me u know more or at least have some backing when u going around kpkb others for no reason

you heard this you heard that, why don't you just provide links to official sources, that might make your "answers" more like answers coming from official source? here is a free spoon feed from me.

https://www.cmpb.gov.sg/cmpb/before...etric-test/physical-employment-standards-pes/

same point about the use of insults and vulgarities.

lol, dunno who is picking a fight here... "quote tat **** for daring to challenge me" woah... sounds like gangster.

yep sure, you good that you use "probably", cause if not I will ask you how you know that's true. perfect example everybody should follow. I somehow feel that you have a challenge interpreting what's "dk shyt but wanna stir" and pointing out issue with what you are saying.

like i said, you can share you experience, but that doesn't mean it is up to date or accurate. what happened to you may not happened to everybody else hence "your mileage may vary".

I think you a very sensitive, why you keep thinking people is bitching about you, pls don't be so insecure. I am just asking you to please provide your source, nobody say you cannot say "this is based on my experience".

I don't have to prove that I know more, because I am not saying I know more. I also rely on people to point me in the direction of where I can obtain official information. dunno why you think that's "kpkb" when I say people should backup their claims.

I think you need to "Have a Break, Have a Kit Kat". don't be so worked up man.

 

[reddevil0728]

Chill bro, dont feed him anymore.. he’s gonna prolly say something abt this soon (just wait for it! Haha) I hope the TS is able to filter out the nonsense in this thread and pick up some useful insights!

Well, if you think that is feeding, I can't stop you, i mean that's your opinion.

But irony ain't it, get so worked up when people challenged your claims, if you are so secure about your claim, why do you have to be so worked up?

If TS is insightful, TS will be able to differentiate between being enlightened through being pointed in the direction, vis-a-vis taking "answers" here as gospel truth.

haha i ***** pissed he trying to pick fight for like seriously useless things. feels like some kid havent even serve NS dk anything abt pes status wan kpkb abt pes status.

i LOL at the part he kpkb me abt the eyesight issue then im like "dude, been there before, i know exactly wat entails PES B2".

sigh..this kid needs to know who he messing wif

dunno why you so pissed when I think you are the one picking a fight??? cause how is asking you to back up your claim or to clarify your statement consider picking a fight? I think you might find it challenging when your coworkers or boss ask you to backup your claim or clarify your statement, then you accuse them of picking a fight with you. ain't that sad? If it is so useless, dunno why you are so insecure about being questioned. You can feel all you want, but i mean that's your feeling ain't it, so you might be wrong about whether someone is a kid and wrong about whether someone served NS and knows anything about PES status. and you feel that's kpkb. I think you really need to chill...

As I said, i think you have a challenge understanding the difference. care to clarify how you know exactly what entails for PES B2??? You heard about "your mileage may vary" if you are only using your experience to backup your claim.

care to share who are you to not be messed with? very interested to know

Why bother quarrelling in such a huge forum lol
There is other persons ya can talk to.
Ignorance is bliss.

sage words. dunno why people so worked up when challenged. sounds like insecurity

 

[AnfieldRoad]

I told you WAIT FOR IT!!! Hahaha.

 

[reddevil0728]

I told you WAIT FOR IT!!! Hahaha.

instead of you thinking you can predict the future, I might as well say I’ll reply one. Then whatever you say becomes nothing special?

 

[5408854088]

Degrees accredited by the government of the home country where the university originates will be considered for employment into the Public Service." seems to suggest strongly that private uni like Kaplan-Murdoch would not be recognised as Murdoch is supposed to be in Australia.

I am quite certain that private uni degrees are not recognised by garmen sector, especially if u wanna sign on. SPF or SAF same in this regard.

If u are "combat fit" u might wanna jus yolo and take a degree in Military Studies from SIM(SUSS) can go into SAF as Occifer immediately once u clear medical.

Also, wearing specs not an issue as long as less than 1k. 1k or more means u are down pes liao. I know this cos i was from a Pes B2 coy and one of our defects was eyesight, amongst others.

I don't think your interpretation on the foreign degree is correct. What it means is that as long as the degree is recognised by the home country, it will be considered. Meaning to say that if Murdoch University is accredited by the Australia government, the degree will be considered. Kaplan has nothing to do with this as they are only a service provider. It is the university that issues the degree, not the service provider. The same could be applied to uniform service. Preference could be given to local universities but it does not mean that degree not issued locally will have zero chance.

 

[Starbarks!]

I don't think your interpretation on the foreign degree is correct. What it means is that as long as the degree is recognised by the home country, it will be considered. Meaning to say that if Murdoch University is accredited by the Australia government, the degree will be considered. Kaplan has nothing to do with this as they are only a service provider. It is the university that issues the degree, not the service provider. The same could be applied to uniform service. Preference could be given to local universities but it does not mean that degree not issued locally will have zero chance.

Yes my understanding of this standard sentence by most public service depts incl uniform groups such as saf & spf means it is recognised & acceptable too.

However preferences btwn local degrees & those recognised/accredited pte degrees is a different story but i do believe they had accepted some pte degree holders..

 

[baggieboy]

like i subsequently said, it all boils down to wat the recruitment office sees as a recognised degree or not. to play it safe, private degree is generally frowned upon compared to local degree (this is pretty obvious in our society) so this one ur best answer is still to ask recruitment office.

and dude, u refuting my statements and asking me for evidence for wat? i already said most of the things i quoting are from my own experience (from my NS time as a PES B2 soldier, to my trying to sign on). if ur eyesight above 1k, yes u gonna drop pes cos its too highly myopic.

watever TS wanna know, i already replied watever i know.

 

[reddevil0728]

like i subsequently said, it all boils down to wat the recruitment office sees as a recognised degree or not. to play it safe, private degree is generally frowned upon compared to local degree (this is pretty obvious in our society) so this one ur best answer is still to ask recruitment office.

and dude, u refuting my statements and asking me for evidence for wat? i already said most of the things i quoting are from my own experience (from my NS time as a PES B2 soldier, to my trying to sign on). if ur eyesight above 1k, yes u gonna drop pes cos its too highly myopic.

watever TS wanna know, i already replied watever i know.

" if ur eyesight above 1k, yes u gonna drop pes cos its too highly myopic."

somehow you are struggling to grasp, why making this statement is such an issue.

 

[GhostlyRae]

catch no ball.

Anyhow I would assume you need to be physically/medically fit which means a PES A/B1...
regards to B2,B3,B4 not too sure...since CMPB classifies them as suitable for some frontline operational vocations, and frontline support vocations.

Being highly myopic will probably get you graded <B2

I'm a female though. If I'm not wrong, I don't need to have a PES status as long as I am physically fit according to medical examinations?

 

[GhostlyRae]

TS if u don mind us asking and trying to help u (through this forum), please let us have some info:

1. BMI [this is impt cos if ur BMI fail (above 25 iirc) then u need to lose weight before u can sign on as im pretty sure they will think very hard abt accepting u]

2. eye sight [since u mentioned that ur eyesight is bad, please say whats ur degree? if contacts are an option, maybe can try though im not sure if after enlisting can u use contacts (shld be cannot)]

3. any past medical history of serious injuries, fractures, ligament tearing, bone break etc.? [these might cause ur pes to drop and u be deemed non-combat. if so, u might be immediately rejected]

hope these if u don mind sharing wif us here, can help us to help u more.

cheers~

1. My BMI is currently at 26. I've started on exercising and watching my diet now so I'm quite confident that I can get fit by the time I obtain my degree (in 2 years)

2. I can't remember exactly but it should be around 500. I have astigmatism and myopia.

3. I'm fortunate enough to say that I've never suffered any injuries or had any illness.

 

[GhostlyRae]

Degrees accredited by the government of the home country where the university originates will be considered for employment into the Public Service." seems to suggest strongly that private uni like Kaplan-Murdoch would not be recognised as Murdoch is supposed to be in Australia.

I am quite certain that private uni degrees are not recognised by garmen sector, especially if u wanna sign on. SPF or SAF same in this regard.

If u are "combat fit" u might wanna jus yolo and take a degree in Military Studies from SIM(SUSS) can go into SAF as Occifer immediately once u clear medical.

Also, wearing specs not an issue as long as less than 1k. 1k or more means u are down pes liao. I know this cos i was from a Pes B2 coy and one of our defects was eyesight, amongst others.

I've actually managed to talk to the consultant of Kaplan and she told me that there are officers within the force who has DL degree from the private uni. Though I've yet to find out/check with HTA career center, probably will do so when I'm done with my graduation preparations. I'm just having my fingers crossed for now.

As for wearing specs, My eyesight is around 500 with astigmatism and myopia so that's a worry. Wondering about LASIK is simply because it's a procedure I wish to go for as I believe it will be beneficially to myself not just on the job but my everyday life.

 

[reddevil0728]

I'm a female though. If I'm not wrong, I don't need to have a PES status as long as I am physically fit according to medical examinations?

Even though PES stands for Physical Employment Standards, it’s ironically not about being physically fit, given that physical fitness can be trained and physical fitness is not evaluated through medical examinations but through physical examinations (e.g. IPPT).

Medical examinations will determine your medical fitness which translates to PES.

 

[GhostlyRae]

Hey, i also want to sign on too though, but gonna finish my diploma for the next two years... but there are some doubts that you and i might have.

Oh? But are you gonna sign on with a diploma or degree? What doubts are you having?

 

[Starbarks!]

Oh? But are you gonna sign on with a diploma or degree? What doubts are you having?

Obviouly it's for direct entry sergeant if join as dip holder..

 

[GhostlyRae]

Obviouly it's for direct entry sergeant if join as dip holder..

Which was why I asked if he would be joining with dip or degree since both are different From what I've heard, going to NS before signing on should be better ideally for diploma holders?

 

[Idme231]

Oh? But are you gonna sign on with a diploma or degree? What doubts are you having?

Only having a higher Nitec now, going thru a 2 years diploma course now. all i been hearing about signing on is people will treat you like shyt. damn.

 

[Idme231]

Obviouly it's for direct entry sergeant if join as dip holder..

Mininually O level to a diploma.
But for males is better to complete NS first because they pay by ummm, qualifications,
working experience, completion on NS and stuff.
O level - Higher Nitec will be alittle lesser.

 

[Idme231]

Which was why I asked if he would be joining with dip or degree since both are different From what I've heard, going to NS before signing on should be better ideally for diploma holders?

For males, its better to complete NS first. i havent even complete my NS first lol...

 

[proddy]

ehhh you might be serving your NS in green rather than in blue if you choose to only sign on after enlistment