Kopeship: WP Jamus Lim vs Lawrence Wong on MOE's 1600 paxes of annual foreign scholarship

[matrix05]

Loser posting. So fast.

A zero calories post. No argument, no humor, no opinion, no reasoning, no nothing. Ok lah, free forum, go ahead and post better no post and a dead forum.

 

[xiaoxiaomi]

Grades are belled-curved and can be configured by the MOE/Policies. Many who cant get into local U can qualify for Aussie/UK/US .... U. Some even obtain good grades from overseas. When MoM starts to agree to all sort of degree and even those w/o English in, it is time to update MoM polices, to level the playing field and not disadvantage the locals.

It just mean those overseas uni standards are lower. Doesn't mean we need to lower our standards so that more locals can get into our AU.

 

[kyo_465]

we are expensive not because we are greedy, but because the govt is greedy
up land price, up gst. unless you live in longkang and fish your dinner everyday.

if cost of living is cheap we can be cheap. if govt invest in education and training (lower class sizes) we can be good.

Its all supply demand driven. The people is greedy to elect a greedy government.

Everyone rush to the speculate houses, buy SMRT shares all that crap. Dun try to be a saint.

Cost of living is never going to be cheap for the losers at the bottom. But whether you become a loser or not depends on your mindset and whether your dad wore condom.

 

[howru2d]

"As such," he stated, "no Singaporean student is displaced from an [autonomous university] because of an international student."

If there is a placement of foreign student, there is a displacement of local regardless if their entry grades needs to be higher... If u have 10 chairs in your house, regardless how many are reserved for your relatives and friends, u still only have 10 chairs.. simple maths..

International students add to diversity of education experience
Having international students "adds to the diversity of the overall education experience and cultivates students' global orientation and intercultural skills", said Wong.

We are from a multi racial society, we have no short of interculture skills, he means only 1 particular race is admitted in uni or he means that having indian students in my class gets me a better interview opportunity?

 

[PeanutButtor]

No need to dig. This place is crawling with losers.

Edwin Yeo – Head of Field Research and Technical Support for the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB)
Photo: WSJ Online
Photo: WSJ Online
Crime: Stealing $1.76 million in government funds

Punishment: 10 years in Changi Prison

Lim Cheng Hoe – Protocol Chief for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA)
Photo: The Malaysian Star Online
Photo: The Malaysian Star Online
Crime: Cheating the government out of $89,000 by inflating the price of pineapple tarts and wine he purchased as gifts for foreign delegates

Punishment: 15 months in Changi Prison

Peter Lim – Chief of the Singapore Civil Defence Force (CDF)
Photo: Yahoo! News
Photo: Yahoo! News
Crime: Favoring IT-related government tenders to certain companies in exchange for sexual favors

Punishment: 6 months in Changi Prison

Bernard Lim Yong Soon – Assistant Director for National Parks Board (NParks)
Photo: TODAY Online
Photo: TODAY Online
Crime: Giving false information to public servants and encouraging his friend to lie to corruption investigators during the “Brompton Bicycle Saga”

Punishment: Up to 1 year in Changi Prison, a $5,000 fine, or both

Tey Tsun Hang – National University of Singapore (NUS) Law Professor
Photo: TODAY Online
Photo: TODAY Online
Crime: Receiving several gifts and sexual favors from a student in exchange for passing grades

Punishment: 5 months in Changi Prison and a penalty of $514.80

https://blog.moneysmart.sg/opinion/singapores-top-5-corruption-cases-so-far/

for your reading pleasure...

 

[kyo_465]

A zero calories post. No argument, no humor, no opinion, no reasoning, no nothing. Ok lah, free forum, go ahead and post better no post and a dead forum.

Its gonna be a dead forum once they dun allow ppl to post without determining the facts.

 

[windwaver]

40% is very high already

Back during my day it was less than 30%. It only reached 30% in 2015

Back then Poly to go Local Uni is like 10 to 15% only.

Ya la, those old days very hard for locals. At least 2 generations got screwed over, guess what generations mostly in SK?

 

[kyo_465]

"As such," he stated, "no Singaporean student is displaced from an [autonomous university] because of an international student."

If there is a placement of foreign student, there is a displacement of local regardless if their entry grades needs to be higher... If u have 10 chairs in your house, regardless how many are reserved for your relatives and friends, u still only have 10 chairs.. simple maths..

International students add to diversity of education experience
Having international students "adds to the diversity of the overall education experience and cultivates students' global orientation and intercultural skills", said Wong.

We are from a multi racial society, we have no short of interculture skills, he means only 1 local race is admitted in uni or he means that having indian students in my class gets me a better interview opportunity?

Having foreign students in your class make you appreciate how self entitled and lack of drive you have. And also a snapshot of the competition you are facing.

There are those who dun even get to smell AUs who will likely die cock stand later.

 

[mp4005 help]

Its gonna be a dead forum once they dun allow ppl to post without determining the facts.

Think you can post articles. But you shouldn't comment unless you verify the facts.

If I purely share , it is fine. If you add salt and pepper like many people here without even reading and just keep bashing either oppo or PAP just because you are dumb and crazy then you deserve to get sued.

We all have a brain , we all have basic education. Use it . Don't assume meaning.

 

[kyo_465]

Ya la, those old days very hard for locals. At least 2 generations got screwed over, guess what generations mostly in SK?

I never liked the idea of increasing it for the sake of it.

The extra 10% who got in was not because they are smarter.

This is like the cannot make it diplomas who go some third tier australian uni and spend 5 times more to get a dumb degree cert.

Doesnt change the fact you are a reject.

 

[kyo_465]

Think you can post articles. But you shouldn't comment unless you verify the facts.

If I purely share , it is fine. If you add salt and pepper like many people here without even reading and just keep bashing either oppo or PAP just because you are dumb and crazy then you deserve to get sued.

We all have a brain , we all have basic education. Use it . Don't assume meaning.

not sure if everyone here has a brain. But everyone here definitely has an asshole and an opinion.

 

[howru2d]

Having foreign students in your class make you appreciate how self entitled and lack of drive you have. And also a snapshot of the competition you are facing.

There are those who dun even get to smell AUs who will likely die cock stand later.

Working attitude and studying mentality is different.

Akin to a seow keng non motivated ns man and a super on ns man doesn't make the super on ns man be more successful in real working life.

 

[kyo_465]

Working attitude and studying mentality is different.

Akin to a seow keng ns man and a super on ns man doesn't make the super on ns man be successful in real working life.

So you are saying a strong and mentality to overcome challenges in life is a selective one?

And those who wayang and cheat also do it selectively?

In my 15 years of working experience, I have found that those who cheat in life to take short cuts do it regardless of their success in life.

So the reverse is true: success in life does not mean this person has a mental will to overcome challenges.

But a strong mental will is necessary to be successful. Lowering the bar cheapens this.

 

[xiaoxiaomi]

"As such," he stated, "no Singaporean student is displaced from an [autonomous university] because of an international student."

If there is a placement of foreign student, there is a displacement of local regardless if their entry grades needs to be higher... If u have 10 chairs in your house, regardless how many are reserved for your relatives and friends, u still only have 10 chairs.. simple maths..

International students add to diversity of education experience
Having international students "adds to the diversity of the overall education experience and cultivates students' global orientation and intercultural skills", said Wong.

We are from a multi racial society, we have no short of interculture skills, he means only 1 particular race is admitted in uni or he means that having indian students in my class gets me a better interview opportunity?

Actually no.. it can also mean the places will be left empty if there are no international students. Doesn't mean the international students are taking the local places. That's why he mentioned none are displaced.

So if you have 10 chairs in your house and only have 5 relatives, you can either invite 5 friends so that all the chairs are filled or just leave the 5 chairs empty.

 

[kyo_465]

Actually no.. it can also mean the places will be left empty if there are no international students. Doesn't mean the international students are taking the local places. That's why he mentioned none are displaced.

So if you have 10 chairs in your house and only have 5 relatives, you can either invite 5 friends so that all the chairs are filled or just leave the 5 chairs empty.

I fully support leaving those 5 chairs empty than to lower than bar of entry to fill them.

 

[fishbuff]

Hey, you all enjoy in sg hor. You hear me?

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[xiaoxiaomi]

I fully support leaving those 5 chairs empty than to lower than bar of entry to fill them.

i agree. it is also not easy for the faculty to teach students of different calibre. Not everyone can be a uni grad even more so an AU grad.

 

[kyo_465]

i agree. it is also not easy for the faculty to teach students of different calibre. Not everyone can be a uni grad even more so an AU grad.

But its sadistically gratifying to see losers here shouting to be admitted. Or claim their 100k Australian degree is comparable.

They think the certificate is a means to an end, tsk tsk.

Pathetic.

 

[eq2addict]

First it is impossible for everyone to have a degree . It is like saying everyone is express stream

We all know that is not possible. You go university if you are not good enough , sooner or later will fail and drop out too. I have seen people who drop out either due to personal reasons like stress , cannot cope, etc.

In an ecosystem, you need mixed group of people from different academic backgrounds. And it is a fact, the successful people come from all backgrounds. You got degree doesn't mean you will go far in life or get rich.

of cos is impossible, but govt open door big big for degree ( fake or real) all over the place come in to depress wages. until one day , kopitam unker need to have degree to be qualified to ask whether you want kopi c or tea-o. ( see current engineers starting pay or the whole engineer industry now. )

ie all the degree holders come in and depress our 40% , and those 60% who has no degree / ie become lousy 3rd class citizen on your own country aka jia sai. Why not boost your own citizen 100% to compete with the world ?

 

[aceone10]

tbh, part of the rankings of a uni is the international student count too
without it, nus ranking would plummet
so cant have both ways

What is the point of having high ranking while local graduates cannot find job and deemed as no skill for the vast job market.