Asus GT-AX11000/Pro, RT-AX89X, , GT-AX6000, RT-AX88U Pro, RT-AX86U/Pro, RT-AX86S, TUF-AX6000, RT-AX82U (V1/V2), TUF-AX5400, RT-AX5400 and TUF-AX4200

[kendo21]

Good point. That bridged port will not work with SingTel TV box. So most likely the dual WAN setup will also not work with SingTel TV box from Port 4 of the Asus RT-AX86U. Is it possible to tell the dual wan setup that traffic destined to the SingTel TV box should only come from the unbridged port? Then again it is still complicated and may not work as seen in the ONR AP thread.

On the other hand, he still has two ONR ports to connect to the SingTel TV so probably not a real issue.

Gonna cancel MIO TV on DEC when contract end anyway. Been paying but no one in the household watch TV anyway! Waste of money to subscribe!

To answer ur point. I connected my MIO TV to the ONR port 3 and it works, together with my dual WAN configuration.

 

[WestGuy]

Collected my free ROG Ranger backpack for subscribing to the 1+1 Gamer plan

 

[xiaofan]

Gonna cancel MIO TV on DEC when contract end anyway. Been paying but no one in the household watch TV anyway! Waste of money to subscribe!

To answer ur point. I connected my MIO TV to the ONR port 3 and it works, together with my dual WAN configuration.

Thanks for the info. That is in line with my expectation

So indeed dual wan load balancing works well based on your testing. This is a good use of the 1+1 plan. And it will not affect the existing SingTel TV service.

As for SingTel TV, yes I can see more and more people will cut it. That is a trend and eventually I will follow as well in one or two years.

 

[kendo21]

Hey guys!!!!

Today the singtel technician came down to set up my 1+1 plan. I told him i called before to bridge another port so i can direct both line to the asus as main router. He gave me all the ******** say cannot. I say ok, then i tell him i want to connect the ONR port 2 to the AX86U for dual wan then. He tell me will crash the whole network, i told him like that only 1Gbps is connected to the asus router and my other 1Gbps connect to the ONR that cannnot output wifi signal only can connect wired devices like IPTV or direct computer. Like that that extra 1Gpbs is wasted.....

After he set up finish and establish internet, i sent him off and quickly set up dual wan on the AX86U and tried! WTF it freaking works! i went to speedtest and i got 1.89K mpbs download and 1K mpbs upload. i think singtel cap uplink at 1Gbps.... My DNS of 1.1.1.1 works fine.

Im using the 2.5Gbps lan port to connect to my Desktop with a 2.5Gpbs lan card. Totally work guys! im i getting double speed on my phone using the wifi 5 too!

Go for it guys! I tried WAN aggregation but failed..... i think the ONR dont suppport it for now......

Super happy with this set up. $6 for additional 1gpbs line +$17 AX86U totally worth it.

*Update*
FK now i check QOS cannot work in dual WAN and Ai protection too! Those that care about this take note. For me doesnt matter...... A pity that Ai protection built in cant be ultilised!

*Update*
I found a way to enable QOS and AI protection! download the asus router app on phone and enable from there. I then check back by logging in using the computer and it works. Dual WAN still works, i tested with speedtest.

 

[jess_sy]

*Update*
I found a way to enable QOS and AI protection! download the asus router app on phone and enable from there. I then check back by logging in using the computer and it works. Dual WAN still works, i tested with speedtest.

Hi do share some speedtest results image here

 

[kendo21]

Hi do share some speedtest results image here

Hi I don't how to upload....

 

[jess_sy]

You can either share the URL of speedtest. Or use the image share function using image URL.

Eg: speedtest results URL
https://www.speedtest.net/result/a/6623772597

Speedtest result image URL
https://www.speedtest.net/android/6623772597.png

Using

to embed.

Hi I don't how to upload....

As shared by xiaofan,

or you can upload ur screenshot to like https://imgur.com/upload

then [IMG ]https://imgur.com/......[/IMG]

 

[kendo21]

As shared by xiaofan,

or you can upload ur screenshot to like https://imgur.com/upload

then [IMG ]https://imgur.com/......[/IMG]

Hi thank Jess for teaching! Always wanted to learn.

Here the all awaited 2.5gbps wired from my AX86U 2.5gbps port local speed test!

This is my Huawei P30 Pro using wifi 5 result! quite shock at this speed too lol!

 

[skpuppy]

Wow! Which ISP is this? Seems amazing

 

[kendo21]

Wow! Which ISP is this? Seems amazing

Your sucky singtel. The technician they send is mediocre, dont know anything advance and only know what singtel tell them to do. Set up dual WAN and u are good to enjoy the full 2Gbps speed.

 

[xiaofan]

Wow! Which ISP is this? Seems amazing

Your sucky singtel. The technician they send is mediocre, dont know anything advance and only know what singtel tell them to do. Set up dual WAN and u are good to enjoy the full 2Gbps speed.

Great that you have successfully used the dual WAN load balancing feature of RT-AX86U to work with SingTel 1+1 Gbps Gamer plan.

By right Asus RT-AX86U dual WAN load balancing should also work with the other ISPs with dual 1Gbps plan, i.e., Starhub 2Gbps plan and MyRepublic 1+1 plan.

 

[xiaofan]

You're saturating your single GPON connection; GPON is not actually symmetrical, the max downlink speed is 2.488Gbps, while the max uplink speed is 1.244Gbps. That's before accounting for overhead.

This has always puzzled me. If this is the case, all the current ISP 2Gbps/ dual 1Gbps plans will have the uplink speed capped at 1.244Gbps across the 4 ONR ports (SingTel 2Gbps or Viewquest 2Gbps) or the two 1Gbps line (Starhub 2Gbps, MyRepublic 1+1, or SingTel 1+1).

On the other hand, only MyRepublic is saying that uplink speed is limited to 500Mbps for its 1Gbps plan and that applies its 1+1 Gbps plan.

SingTel only says its 10Gbps plan is not symmetrical because of the use of XG-PON (downlink 10Gbps, uplink 2.5Gbps) and not XGS-PON.


https://www.promaxelectronics.com/in...ble-with-them/

 

[miloaisdino]

Hi thank Jess for teaching! Always wanted to learn.

Here the all awaited 2.5gbps wired from my AX86U 2.5gbps port local speed test!

This is my Huawei P30 Pro using wifi 5 result! quite shock at this speed too lol!

wow wifi 5!!! this router is a beast

 

[xiaofan]

wow wifi 5!!! this router is a beast

Yes. RT-AX86U is really good.

Take note Huawei Mate 20, P30 and Mate 30 series support 160MHz channel for WiFi 5 if the wireless router supports 160MHz channel for WiFi 5.

 

[memoriess]

a quick question if i get ax86u from singtel, do i need to set up anything for the singtel tv or just connect the cable can le?

 

[xiaofan]

a quick question if i get ax86u from singtel, do i need to set up anything for the singtel tv or just connect the cable can le?

ONR user (include 1+1 Gamer plan users) -- please connect SingTel TV box to ONR port and not Asus RT-AX86U

ONT user -- enable VLAN profile for SingTel in the Asus and connect box to port 4
Ref: Asus FAQ
https://www.asus.com/sg/support/FAQ/1034975/

 

[memoriess]

ONR user (include 1+1 Gamer plan users) -- please connect SingTel TV box to ONR port and not Asus RT-AX86U

ONT user -- enable VLAN profile for SingTel in the Asus and connect box to port 4
Ref: Asus FAQ
https://www.asus.com/sg/support/FAQ/1034975/

my setup is currently ONR - Router (room) - Singtel TV Box (room)

 

[xiaofan]

my setup is currently ONR - Router (room) - Singtel TV Box (room)

Unfortunately none of the 3rd party works in this configuration.

Basically this will not work.
ONR - 3rd party Router (either router mode or AP mode) - Singtel TV Box

Ref:
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...clinic-4/singtel-onr-ap-issues-5778791-3.html

In fact RT-AX86U (or any other good router) is not a good match with ONR, unless you are on the 1+1 Gbps plan or ask SingTel to bridge the ONR if you are on 1Gbps plan.

I am pretty much okay with many limitations of SingTel like BT throttling or not optimized routing, but indeed I do not like ONR.

 

[memoriess]

Unfortunately none of the 3rd party works in this configuration.

Basically this will not work.
ONR - 3rd party Router (either router mode or AP mode) - Singtel TV Box

Ref:
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...clinic-4/singtel-onr-ap-issues-5778791-3.html

In fact RT-AX86U (or any other good router) is not a good match with ONR, unless you are on the 1+1 Gbps plan or ask SingTel to bridge the ONR if you are on 1Gbps plan.

I am pretty much okay with many limitations of SingTel like BT throttling or not optimized routing, but indeed I do not like ONR.

am i able to configure such like ONR - ASUS AX86U - Singtel TV BOX (via ASUS vlan profile setup)?

 

[Mach3.2]

This has always puzzled me. If this is the case, all the current ISP 2Gbps/ dual 1Gbps plans will have the uplink speed capped at 1.244Gbps across the 4 ONR ports (SingTel 2Gbps or Viewquest 2Gbps) or the two 1Gbps line (Starhub 2Gbps, MyRepublic 1+1, or SingTel 1+1).

Yes. Because there's only 1 GPON connection back to their OLT, you're hard capped by the limits of that 1 GPON connection. Of course it's not to their benefit that they advertise this as prominantly as 1+1Gbps, so most consumer won't know. It could be in the fine prints, but I haven't went about looking for it.

On the other hand, only MyRepublic is saying that uplink speed is limited to 500Mbps for its 1Gbps plan and that applies its 1+1 Gbps plan.

Then they are limiting the uplink speed for those plans, nothing to do with hitting the theoretical limits of a single GPON connection.

SingTel only says its 10Gbps plan is not symmetrical because of the use of XG-PON (downlink 10Gbps, uplink 2.5Gbps) and not XGS-PON.

https://www.promaxelectronics.com/in...ble-with-them/

I guess in their expected use case of the 1+1Gbps plan, they did not expected users to aggregate both WAN conenctions together. If the users don't aggregate the WAN connections, they will never hit above 1Gbps down and up at any one time. If the user aren't going to be hitting the hard limits of that GPON connection, I guess it's in their best interest to not talk about it to avoid "unnecessary questions" for their helpdesk/sales team?

Whereas for their 10Gbps plan, it is likely that the user have a 10GbE NIC. In that case the user would very quickly realise they are hitting the limits of SingTel's implementation of XG-PON, so I guess it's better for them to be upfront that their the XG-PON tech they implemented has an uplink limit of 2.5Gbps.


Do note I'm just speculating here, don't take it as facts.