China's GDP has surpassed that of the European Union for the first time in history

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shall see how this year goes in China
with the property market turmoil, capital injection and usa rising rates
they will just fake the data to look good lor

in reality is quite bad over there now economy is bad and normal ppl suffer

but since they control the internet and firewall and media and data can just do anything they want lol
 

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tiagong PRC are going to do lower interest rate to promote domestic spending.... their export is just as stronk as before covid....... particularly medical stuff like mask, test kits etc......
 

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they will just fake the data to look good lor

in reality is quite bad over there now economy is bad and normal ppl suffer

but since they control the internet and firewall and media and data can just do anything they want lol

i dun think its overtly like that IMO though
 

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tiagong PRC are going to do lower interest rate to promote domestic spending.... their export is just as stronk as before covid....... particularly medical stuff like mask, test kits etc......

while US and other nations going to increase their i/r
 

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So can explain why tiongs still fleeing China by the boatload to migrate to many western countries. But you don't see the other way round. Weird right? LOL!

is this still true to this day ?
 

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China is a growth powerhouse

cannot say the same for other nations post covid though
 

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So it took UK leaving to surpass EU?

It'd just delay the so-called inevitable if UK had stayed. There are still kumgong CCP idiots in this thread who still believe China grew 8.1% this year when the cut in interest rates already tells you more about the state of the Chinese economy than the questionable growth figures generated by their bureau of statistics. You don't go cutting interest rates and especially in the teeth of global inflationary pressures unless you are worried about the direction the economy is taking.

Also cutting rates that don't then affect people's greatest cost - mortgages - will do nothing at all either to boost lending or consumer spending. It might boost business investment, but that's not where they're having trouble.

Most countries readjust data to make it more accurate. China adjusts data to make it more compliant with the party narratives. If America massaged its numbers the same way China does, it would be blatantly obvious because the entire process is transparent. That is intentional, because inaccurate numbers lead to poor decision making even when the numbers are inconvenient. China can only manage to manipulate the data because so little of it is public information and independently verifiable.

I am sure that is true of some other small economies, but large stable economies directly benefit from accuracy. To use an analogy, if politicians determined who was given a medical diagnosis, rather than an accurate diagnosis, it would make cancer treatments far less useful.

The truth serves real world functional purposes, and avoiding it directly results in mistakes, sloppiness, and a whole slew of problems like corruption.

Avoiding the truth is essentially a form of mental illness and a terrible way to run any organization much less an entire country. :s13:
 

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It'd just delay the so-called inevitable if UK had stayed. There are still kumgong CCP idiots in this thread who still believe China grew 8.1% this year when the cut in interest rates already tells you more about the state of the Chinese economy than the questionable growth figures generated by their bureau of statistics. You don't go cutting interest rates and especially in the teeth of global inflationary pressures unless you are worried about the direction the economy is taking.

Also cutting rates that don't then affect people's greatest cost - mortgages - will do nothing at all either to boost lending or consumer spending. It might boost business investment, but that's not where they're having trouble.

Most countries readjust data to make it more accurate. China adjusts data to make it more compliant with the party narratives. If America massaged its numbers the same way China does, it would be blatantly obvious because the entire process is transparent. That is intentional, because inaccurate numbers lead to poor decision making even when the numbers are inconvenient. China can only manage to manipulate the data because so little of it is public information and independently verifiable.

I am sure that is true of some other small economies, but large stable economies directly benefit from accuracy.
To use an analogy, if politicians determined who was given a medical diagnosis, rather than an accurate diagnosis, it would make cancer treatments far less useful.

The truth serves real world functional purposes, and avoiding it directly results in mistakes, sloppiness, and a whole slew of problems like corruption.

Avoiding the truth is essentially a form of mental illness and a terrible way to run any organization much less an entire country. :s13:

we dunno how this pans out

2022 is primed for an exciting year at least
 

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but services is also a necessary part of a developed economy oh wells
so is manufacturing..... they are not killing it.... just that they dun want the economy to steer towards a heavily service oriented economy like hongkong and US...... US manufacturing is low and hongkong is almost none..... all about banking services and tech services for US......

manufacturing is the best for low wage workers..... they are repetitive and have a good wages.... services economy cannot help low wages workers..... fin and tech need high level of education for professional.... US hongkong low wages workers cant really get good wages or living wages.....
 

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so is manufacturing..... they are not killing it.... just that they dun want the economy to steer towards a heavily service oriented economy like hongkong and US...... US manufacturing is low and hongkong is almost none..... all about banking services and tech services for US......

manufacturing is the best for low wage workers..... they are repetitive and have a good wages.... services economy cannot help low wages workers..... fin and tech need high level of education for professional.... US hongkong low wages workers cant really get good wages or living wages.....

true that

but pple already making a career out of it

to change suddenly, its very drastic though
 
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