Putin has always said Russia was swindled because Reagan gave undertaking to Gorbachev that NATO will not expand eastwards..and so Soviet Union agreed

CSNation

Banned
Joined
Jul 24, 2002
Messages
240,347
Reaction score
6,872
All i know is if people after zhao from your group and join other people group.
Maybe time to step back and reassess first.
 

jim889

Arch-Supremacy Member
Joined
Feb 19, 2022
Messages
24,280
Reaction score
12,509
then..
putin should take back georgia since stalin was born there :D
 

cute_togepi

Arch-Supremacy Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2012
Messages
21,040
Reaction score
3,909
Russia declared independence from itself.
No, they declared independence from USSR. If These are two different countries. If Russia didn't, the USSR will still be around as the USSR even if all the other Soviet Republics are gone.
 

junjie433

High Supremacy Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2008
Messages
36,628
Reaction score
5,714
that a REUNIFIED Germany can join Nato.
各说各话........this was a major contention point for Putin over at least 15 years

If US allow Russia to join NATO then we will already achieve world peace in the EU.
 

Justin_T

Banned
Joined
Jan 5, 2013
Messages
6,896
Reaction score
935
Putin has been pissed off since 1990 when the Soviet Union broke up.

putin was already pissed when desperately burning confidential documents in the basement of the Soviet Embassy to East Germany during the fall of the Berlin war.
 

BeHappyLo

Banned
Joined
Jun 17, 2014
Messages
49,931
Reaction score
5,645
then..
putin should take back georgia since stalin was born there :D
2008 Beijing Olympics, Putin attacked Georgia and took 2 pieces of territory off Georgia. He stopped only because Bush was not a pushover. Pl do your history lessons
 

csc12345678

Master Member
Joined
Sep 2, 2001
Messages
3,795
Reaction score
241
US cannot be trusted. Neither can any politicians.
And unfortunately, the way to enforce the other parties words is power, be it military or economic power.
I'm not a power person but I have to come to terms with this reality.
 

inmyopinion

Arch-Supremacy Member
Joined
Jan 15, 2018
Messages
15,147
Reaction score
6,579
The video is still circulating by Putin supporters:

“Putin said NATO cheated Russia (not expanding to the East)… “
 

clon33

High Supremacy Member
Joined
Feb 15, 2009
Messages
28,938
Reaction score
4,358
ask Putin. he in Russia now or Soviet Union?
I tot he like to play with words

Yah lor.

Why was Russia allowed to take over Soviet Union permanent seat at UN security council?

Who allowed Russia to become the successor of Soviet Union?

Now UN want to try kick Putin out.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/25/putin-facing-efforts-isolate-diplomatically-ukraine

But he also asked Guterres to distribute to the security council the legal memos written by UN legal counsel dated 19 December 1991 that the Russian Federation be permitted to join the security council as the successor to the Soviet Union. Ukraine claims the constituent republics of the USSR declared in 1991 that the Soviet Union ceased to exist, and with it should have gone the legal right of any of those entities, including Russia, to sit on the council.

No decision to permit Russia to the security council was ever put to the General Assembly. The UN charter was never amended after the USSR broke up. It still references the Soviet Union, and not Russia, as one of the permanent members of the UN security council.

By contrast in 1991 China’s entry into the UN was subject to a resolution. A member of the United Nations which has persistently violated the principles contained in the present charter may be expelled from the Organization by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the security council.
 
Important Forum Advisory Note
This forum is moderated by volunteer moderators who will react only to members' feedback on posts. Moderators are not employees or representatives of HWZ. Forum members and moderators are responsible for their own posts.

Please refer to our Community Guidelines and Standards, Terms of Service and Member T&Cs for more information.
Top