[CONSOLIDATED][Russia Edition] General discussion on Ukraine/Russia war

[Bodaiboji]

Let's not throw shade at other threads here. keep this thread clean.


Just take everything with a big pinch of salt bah,

Ok , noted…

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[seePyou]

mmm, source is from RT. Someone removed the RT watermark.

Why would RT be so close to kiev? RT tend to operate in areas that are under separatist control, they do not venture towards major hotspots and there's ferocious fighting in the areas around kiev.

Quite possibility that those uniforms are pillaged from dead Ukrainian soldiers, and then RT used those uniforms to stage a wayang show. not the first time RT has staged a wayang anyways.

 

[seePyou]

 

[Lurker71415158]

mmm, source is from RT. Someone removed the RT watermark.

Why would RT be so close to kiev? RT tend to operate in areas that are under separatist control, they do not venture towards major hotspots and there's ferocious fighting in the areas around kiev.

Quite possibility that those uniforms are pillaged from dead Ukrainian soldiers, and then RT used those uniforms to stage a wayang show. not the first time RT has staged a wayang anyways.

Maybe he’s the source and RT tag the video?

You can go through all the mental gymnastic about fake Ukraine uniform but then you cannot think there’s many possibilities of how the video come about?

Anyway, I’m not here to argue. Their face is captured, you can go try verify if you can instead of speculating.

Why don’t you use the same critical analysis in the UA side of news?

 

[Mechafanboy]

Wayang show by RT la. Some of those videos are produced for Russian consumption.

The camera shots are too professional liao, the Russian soldiers are too well-dressed. And why would a Russia propaganda crew be anywhere close to Kiev? It's a fiercely contested zone, you know.

The maruipol stories are somewhat believable, the kiev ones are lolz, try harder....

 

[Purikura]

Russian Armed Forces destroy fuel base in Ukraine with Onyx missile - Defense Ministry​

Russia’s aviation hit 117 Ukrainian military facilities, including S-300 over the past day

https://tass.com/russia/1427751

 

[Mechafanboy]

Maybe he’s the source and RT tag the video?

You can go through all the mental gymnastic about fake Ukraine uniform but then you cannot think there’s many possibilities of how the video come about?

Anyway, I’m not here to argue. Their face is captured, you can go try verify if you can instead of speculating.

Why don’t you use the same critical analysis in the UA side of news?

These vids are not meant for international audience, they are meant for a populace, living in a country with a controlled media. And there's no way for said population to verify said info and they have to swallow whatever info is being fed their way.

And some of those vids are too clean, too professionally shot, and some of those actors are too well-kempt. Clearly shot far away from the frontline.

 

[Purikura]

https://www.rt.com/russia/552743-kalibr-cruise-missile-ukraine/

 

[Entry Level PC]

These vids are not meant for international audience, they are meant for a populace, living in a country with a controlled media. And there's no way for said population to verify said info and they have to swallow whatever info is being fed their way.

And some of those vids are too clean, too professionally shot, and some of those actors are too well-kempt. Clearly shot far away from the frontline.

Go back to your own thread lah.

 

[Mechafanboy]

Go back to your own thread lah.

I find it very exciting debunking CSB, so here i am on this thread...

 

[GoodBetterBest]

Faced with legal implications of the war, Russian elites are distancing themselves from Putin​

https://english.nv.ua/nation/faced-...istancing-themselves-from-putin-50228383.html

You serious quoting UA news on Russia ?

 

[Entry Level PC]

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/present...repare-for-long-term-dip-of-living-standards/
"We need to be psychologically preparing our people for a long-term degradation of standard of living and a long term confrontation with Russia," General Shaw warned.

"Our quality of life back home absolutely depends on them – cheap fuel, cheap access, doing deals with Saudi Arabia and things like that.

We've now decided that as far as Russia's concerned we're going to play geopolitics ahead of economics and we've to pay a price for that."

 

[GoodBetterBest]

https://www.rt.com/business/552630-ruble-gas-europe-impact/
Russia confirm liao.
Unfriendly countries no Rubles no Gas.

What will happen if buyers refuse to pay in rubles?
In this case, they won’t be able to buy Russian gas, since any other currency would not be accepted. This would be a blow for Europe, which gets more than 40% of its gas imports from Russia.

But the problem is how the EU can get the Rubles to pay Russia in the first place ? If they buy from Russia and then pay for oil, isn't it the same cause Russia net is getting Euro. So the effect is not to get Rubles from EU but to prop up the Rubles ?

 

[GoodBetterBest]

I am more interested to know what is end game for Ukraine and Russia war

1)Ukraine unoccupied, Russia return home empty hand, sanction continue
2) Ukraine occupied, Russia fight guerilla warfare, Russia sanction continue
3) Peace treaty achieve with 6 objectives. Russian retreat
4) Nato involved into war, Ukraine nuked, standoff again
5)Mutual Assure Destruction for the world

Hopefully not number 5, I think 1) possibility is very low, 2) at the moment seem low too. 3) seem more plausible. 4 and 5 preferably never have to play out

Biden just said food shortage. EU no gas. May be there is social unrest there. Reality befalls the west and they back off. Another scenario ?

 

[Purikura]

https://www.rt.com/russia/552704-will-western-sanctions-deal-fatal/

 

[GoodBetterBest]

Go back to your own thread lah.

I didn't know he's still around until you quote him, cause I've ignore the guy !

Problem is I also cannot go into their thread to read what they say. If I start ignoring more and more, then when I enter their thread, it will be empty !

 

[Lurker71415158]

 

[Lurker71415158]

I didn't know he's still around until you quote him, cause I've ignore the guy !

Problem is I also cannot go into their thread to read what they say. If I start ignoring more and more, then when I enter their thread, it will be empty !

Open a new incognito/privacy tab

 

[eclipsemints]

These vids are not meant for international audience, they are meant for a populace, living in a country with a controlled media. And there's no way for said population to verify said info and they have to swallow whatever info is being fed their way.

And some of those vids are too clean, too professionally shot, and some of those actors are too well-kempt. Clearly shot far away from the frontline.

Go back to your own thread lah.

Nvm don't chase people away. Let him or her discuss.

I find it very exciting debunking CSB, so here i am on this thread...

To call the prisoner video fake is fair. Since circumstances will allow Them to fake it.
but so far i haven't seen you debunk the video with solid evidence other then based on your opinions and conjecture.

So it's still at the discussion stage.

Cheers

 

[verynerd]

I find it very exciting debunking CSB, so here i am on this thread...

Just admit you are triggered