Singapore president rejects Nagaenthran’s bid for clemency

[rjgiggs]

Yes thr slippery slope fallacy. Do this and u will repent for 5years! Many country recognize death penalty doesnt work and develop other sucessful ways to discourage drug use.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1UQ197

So your idea is since death penalty dont work to remove it?

Then there is law to prevent murder.. but still got murderers.. so.. remove the law, or remove the punishment?

 

[trd_charlie]

Time for people with the ses level you claimed to live in countries with many drug peddlers. After that they will understand how these people have caused a chain of unfortunate events. Not just to their own families but to innocent parties too. They are indirectly murderers. Once you live there, you will understand the devastating consequences. Not even execution will suffice to reverse all of that damage. Retributive justice is the only way.

You're being hyperbolic.

Japan doesn't hang drug peddlers. They are one of the countries with the lowest drug users among the whole world. They deliver harsh sentences, but not to the extent of death.

Innocent citizens should not be responsible to pay for the rehabilitation of these smugglers. Innocent citizens work hard to live in a place where the government should use that money to spend on making their lives easier for them, not on these people.

How much money is used to confine criminals in jails? If you're so anal about the cost of confining criminals why not we hang all the jailbirds? That would save innocent citizens like you a ton of money right?

 

[trd_charlie]

Drug trafficking is in fact MURDER in slow motion. Not just one victim but thousands.

Big words. That's your opinion, don't say it like it's a fact.

Maybe you're missing the context. I believe drug peddlers ultimately should be punished heavily. But taking away their lives is needlessly excessive.

 

[neutralph]

Please add in rape for minors too. Don't understand how some people can get away with 10, 20 years jail + caning after raping a child, especially his own.

I don't agree with capital punishment, its too easy for them. Should let them live a life behind bars with conditions worst than hell. Let them beg for an easy death.

 

[1000fist]

Thats the misconception. Death penalty isnt an effective deterrent

It isn't effective in your point of view because you still see people smuggling drugs into Singapore from time to time. I wouldn't agree with you using ineffective but rather it is not foolproof. Desperate people will still bring in drugs for the monetary benefits. But with DP it deters people with such ill-intention from carrying out this job.

 

[1000fist]

Big words. That's your opinion, don't say it like it's a fact.

Maybe you're missing the context. I believe drug peddlers ultimately should be punished heavily. But taking away their lives is needlessly excessive.

This is Singapore law. The drug peddlers can practice their trade in Japan then if they find Singapore law to be too harsh for them.

 

[ricohflex]

Big words. That's your opinion, don't say it like it's a fact.

Maybe you're missing the context. I believe drug peddlers ultimately should be punished heavily. But taking away their lives is needlessly excessive.

Peddling false arguments that drugs and narcotics are not very harmful and drug traffickers should be given lesser penalties. This is the usual liberal stance that completely ignore the overall harm to a society.

If drugs were so harmless, Great Britain would not have refrained from taking it themselves in the 1830s while massively selling opium to China. The intention was not just to earn lots of silver. The bigger underlying purpose was to destroy the society and the people of China at that time.

 

[Kunkka]

So your idea is since death penalty dont work to remove it?

Then there is law to prevent murder.. but still got murderers.. so.. remove the law, or remove the punishment?

The main justification for it and paying such a high price was that it is is an effective deterrent. Studies have long shown it isnt and even our drug incarceration rate shows that. No one said let them go free, just that they should be punished in non violent ways. Non violent crimes shouldnt be met with violent punishment.

 

[trd_charlie]

This is Singapore law. The drug peddlers can practice their trade in Japan then if they find Singapore law to be too harsh for them.

Nice statement. Short, sweet and straight to the point.

I wonder why our president(s) didn't use statements like yours in the past when other countries made appeals for their people who broke the law.

Let me guess. Maybe because it sounds like what a fascist would say?

 

[trd_charlie]

Peddling false arguments that drugs and narcotics are not very harmful and drug traffickers should be given lesser penalties. This is the usual liberal stance that completely ignore the overall harm to a society.

If drugs were so harmless, Great Britain would not have refrained from taking it themselves in the 1830s while massively selling opium to China. The intention was not just to earn lots of silver. The bigger underlying purpose was to destroy the society and the people of China at that time.

Did anyone say drugs are harmless?

 

[wisewise]

Then why not cigarette importers? Cigarette smokes contain carcinogens and affect people with (smokers) or without access (second hand smoke).

Dummy….. cig addicts won’t rob, kill or whack wife or kids to get his fixes. Try drug addicts.

 

[wisewise]

If now president don't help, next time if any sinkies kana same fate in msia, they pull same pattern then sg better not jjww say msia gov shows no clemency

Sorry hor….. pap gabment don’t give a **** about overseas sinkies, if it’s drug offenders, worse.

 

[wisewise]

Then go catch the drugs lord. Why hang the small time peddlers

What a smart argument. If no small peddlers liao, drug lord can either retire or traffic themselves and get caught.

 

[wisewise]

Thats the misconception. Death penalty isnt an effective deterrent

It sure is…. Very effective. Period.

 

[1000fist]

Dummy….. cig addicts won’t rob, kill or whack wife or kids to get his fixes. Try drug addicts.

Every time someone ask this kind of question I just arm chio and laugh at their ignorant.

 

[plasticpistola]

sorry i don't think drug traffickers deserve the d penalty.

 

[1000fist]

Sorry hor….. pap gabment don’t give a **** about overseas sinkies, if it’s drug offenders, worse.

This is true. I hardly see PAP garment appealing for her own citizen who commits crime in another country. I guess only incompetent Government do this trick to earn political points by showing how caring the Government is towards its own criminals in foreign land.

 

[wisewise]

Every time someone ask this kind of question I just arm chio and laugh at their ignorant.

Brainless cig hater lor. Just like my neighbour.

 

[lalalalalala]

Guys this is a historical moment where our president actually rejected something

 

[espenlind]

Please add in rape for minors too. Don't understand how some people can get away with 10, 20 years jail + caning after raping a child, especially his own.

Rapists should be hanged.