Any advise between Whizzcom, ViewQwest & MyRepublic

[xiaofan]

Hmm. Guess for general users, VQ or MR is still ok.

I do have a WD harddisk sitting at home, whereby I can use their app to access thro internet or wd app to reach to the files that are store in the harddisk sitting at home. For such usage, is the CGNAT internet provider able to use?

So much wanted to try out MR as well as friend said the speed was much superb compared to ST after he switched from MR to ST.

MR is good, just pay S$50 one time charge for the static IP to avoid the problems with CGNAT.

IMHO M1 is the best value and then followed by MR. I myself use SingTel (1Gbps, ONT, since Feb 2012) and Starhub though (500Mbps, since June 2014). To me, no point to change as long as it works.

Indeed M1 is the best value, especially the 500Mbps plan.

On the other hand, MR is still a good choice for the following groups.
1) who wants VQ type of performance (speed and latency, good international routing) but do not want the instability of VQ.
2) static IP for hosting, S$50 one time charge is a bargain. VQ has free Static IP for the plans with router. M1 seems to offer static IP add-on as well but will charge monthly subscription fee. SingTel and Starhub do not even offer Static IP.
3) almost no throttling of BT, similar to VQ. M1 still has some types of throttling based on your report.

 

[watzup_ken]

I'm kinda in the same boat too. Am currently on Singtel with contract ending in June. Was fully intending to go to VQ as I remember they're regarded as the premium provider which provides the fastest speeds. However, reading the VQ thread has left me apprehensive. I might just opt for MR now or just recontract with Singtel to save the trouble of switching....

I am not sure if VQ is still considered a premium provider. They were many years back, but I don't think its worth using their service nowadays. Again, I've not used VQ for 4 years now, and never regreted not using their service. To me, I rather have a stable internet connection, than one that is fast but seems to break very often. I still have the tickets I raised in my last year with VQ, and in some months, I have 2 to 3 network outages raised.

 

[watzup_ken]

MR is good, just pay S$50 one time charge for the static IP to avoid the problems with CGNAT.

IMHO M1 is the best value and then followed by MR. I myself use SingTel (1Gbps, ONT, since Feb 2012) and Starhub though (500Mbps, since June 2014). To me, no point to change as long as it works.

I feel M1 is still decent, but with their new owners, I don't feel they are that great in value nowadays from an existing M1 user standpoint.

 

[jrwong84]

See thread will know which to choose liao no problem stable one not much complaints one usually everyday thread will not go up.

Yes i am saying my republic and a happy 6 years customer here

 

[bert64]

Hmm. Guess for general users, VQ or MR is still ok.

I do have a WD harddisk sitting at home, whereby I can use their app to access thro internet or wd app to reach to the files that are store in the harddisk sitting at home. For such usage, is the CGNAT internet provider able to use?

So much wanted to try out MR as well as friend said the speed was much superb compared to ST after he switched from MR to ST.

I can't speak for the WD drive specifically, but these things can work in one of two ways:

1) you connect directly to the device, you control it, this will NOT work with CGNAT. In this scenario you have control over security of the device and you can restrict access (eg limit it to the address space of your mobile provider) or configure it to require connection to a vpn before you can access it etc.

2) the device itself makes an outbound connection to a server operated by the manufacturer and then your mobile app also makes a connection to the manufacturer's server, this can work with CGNAT, BUT:
You have no privacy or control over security, access to the device is controlled by the server operator, and your data flows through that server. If they suffer a security breach, your data becomes accessible to the hackers, and you have no insight into the security policies of the manufacturer (many corporations have extremely lax security practices, as evidenced by the various high profile security breaches that frequently occur).
Performance will be worse, because you are round tripping through the manufacturer's server, this can be especially severe if the servers are hosted abroad.
Running this service is costly for the manufacturer, they may choose to discontinue it or charge extra for it at any time. If the service is discontinued (or down for whatever reason), you lose access.

An internet service using CGNAT and/or not providing IPv6 is an inferior second class service.
I would also consider such a service to be a partial internet service rather than a full internet service.

You should only even consider such a service if:

A) You have no choice (like many people in developing countries).

or

B) You are only planning on doing light browsing for the contract duration and not trying to do anything that would be adversely affected by the inferior service *AND* the inferior service is significantly cheaper than the superior alternatives.

 

[xiaofan]

VQ, MR and WC all do not provide IPv6. MR is also using CGNAT by default, but in reality there is no issue with MR as long as you pay S$50 one time charge for static IP. It is a bargain in reality for static IP.

Only MyRepublic is fully on CGNAT. Then you pay S$50 one time charge to get static IP.

VQ no router 500Mbps/1Gbps also use CGNAT, avoid them anyway. Still it is said that you can pay to get Static IP as well.

 

[Mach3.2]

I don't quite see the supposed value in paying $50 for static IP. From my pov I'm just paying extra just to get a public routable IPv4 address, when I can already get it with any one of the big 3 ISPs.

The static IP VAS angle doesn't quite work too since one can just subscribe to a DDNS service. There's also free DDNS services if you're not willing to pay.

I might as well sign $30/mth for 500Mbps with M1.

 

[FinalTidus]

Whizcomms for me. Been using it for 4 years. Connectivity had been stable and no problems.

I climb bt often and watch Netflix with YouTube on 4k concurrently. My WiFi can be maxed out at 500mbps. Paying 26 per month.

I think at the end of the day, you will want stability and minimal downtime especially during this pandemic period where you are on WFH every day. So sticking to Singtel infra is a wise option.

 

[bert64]

I don't quite see the supposed value in paying $50 for static IP. From my pov I'm just paying extra just to get a public routable IPv4 address, when I can already get it with any one of the big 3 ISPs.

The static IP VAS angle doesn't quite work too since one can just subscribe to a DDNS service. There's also free DDNS services if you're not willing to pay.

I might as well sign $30/mth for 500Mbps with M1.

There is no supposed value, but they have no choice. They don't have enough IPv4 to provide to all users, so they levy the $50 charge to discourage enough users from doing it that they have enough to serve the few who are willing to pay the $50.

Any new provider entering the market is going to have the same problem and it's only going to get worse going forward. The big incumbent providers know this, which is why they either don't want to roll out IPv6 or do nothing to actively promote it.

In some other countries you can't pay $50 for routable IPv4. In Myanmar for instance you cannot get routable IPv4 on a home service at all, you have to pay extra for a "business" service which still doesn't come with routable IPv4 unless you pay extra on top (around $300US last i saw) for it.

 

[nicepal]

Gonna give wc a try after near 20yrs with ST.

 

[adderrs]

M1 is actually the best ISP to go as it tick all the boxes (ONT, better international routing, less throttling, IPv6) but unfortunately their stability seems to go down a bit. If you want to take a bit of risk, then go ahead.

The other possibility is MyRepublic with potentially higher performance than SingTel in terms of better international routing and no throttling (using ONT too). Make sure you pay S$50 to get the static IP as it is using CGNAT with no public IP address. The other thing is that upload speed is 500Mbps for 1Gbps plan, but this should not be a real issue for most of the people.

May I check with you in terms of international routing (especially to US servers), is MR better than M1? I am currently with M1 and am looking to switch to a provider with lower latency to US and was initially looking into VQ but was advise against it, thanks to numerous helpful bros here. So now MR pick my interest.

Regarding MR's static IP option, will that avoid going through CGNAT altogether? And also, is MR's static IP fixed forever? Or can the user just refresh to a new one from own router's WAN setting?

 

[Aw2006]

I also on Whizzcom 500mbps. How did u max out your wifi to 500mbps? At most I get is 300mbps now

 

[nicepal]

Probably he change his router?

 

[alex22]

Maybe ax router n client ~5m distance?

 

[Baggio10]

May I check with you in terms of international routing (especially to US servers), is MR better than M1? I am currently with M1 and am looking to switch to a provider with lower latency to US and was initially looking into VQ but was advise against it, thanks to numerous helpful bros here. So now MR pick my interest.

Regarding MR's static IP option, will that avoid going through CGNAT altogether? And also, is MR's static IP fixed forever? Or can the user just refresh to a new one from own router's WAN setting?

sorry to up the post but I'm interested in the 2 questions as well.
For my case, will be more to Europe instead of USA.

And for MR's static IP option, will that avoid going through CGNAT altogether? How is MR static IP different from the 3 ISP?

 

[Yandaobond]

Recently sign up WC 1Gb 2yr plan with AX1800
So far so good, no issue.

With inbox CAT5E Cable,
TX/RX around 900+/-960mb
DL/UL around 180+/300

Change to CAT6 Cable
TX/RX always around 960-1000
DL/UL around 220/360
*I not sure what cable comes with other company, WC IS 5E
If sign 1Gb plan, at least use a CAT6 MAX out speed.

*Both speed test using 5ghz band
2.4ghz i forgot..
my range within 10m, usually auto connect to 5ghz

2.4ghz or 5ghz, Cables and range affects speed.
not everyone is same.
My Router place at living room middle, side wall.
side facing 2 rooms, usually full bars.
if go other room and toilet minus 1 bar.

Most Laptop and mobile phones recent years have 5ghz band.
if close range use 5ghz to max out speed lor.

 

[Fronsac]

CGNAT is not as bad as what everyone seems to describe, only badly managed one do. If you think of CGNAT as having a router before your router, the performance only become terrible because the first router is overloaded. If the ISP do their job to manage and monitor this well CGNAT do have negligible performance hit unless you are professional esport player in FPS games where that 1 ms might earn you a title.
Lack of IPv6 also do not indicate if the ISP is bad, it just say they are not willing to invest in it because it is still not common enough. Some of the equipment have ROI period of x years, so they cannot really change it just because they want to go IPv6.

 

[jackycar]

If you game, VQ has the BEST ping. Valorant gives me sub 10ms (around 7ms to 9ms).

I use dual WAN, VQ and M1.

M1 is great value, stable, free voice line. Sometimes the overseas throughput is better than VQ. but VQ generally always has amazing routes for the ping.

So it depends what u want. VQ sometimes goes down during wee hours but very rarely recently. but yea it's the BEST when it WORKS. but stability wise M1 is better.

your issue though is definitely router related. u can stay on your current ISP, get the cheapest plan, but change your router to a mesh system and u will see a world of difference also

 

[Trans-Am]

Gonna give wc a try after near 20yrs with ST.

You do know that WC use Singtel infrastructure


Sent from A universe Where pink PWNED everything

 

[xiaofan]

CGNAT is not as bad as what everyone seems to describe, only badly managed one do. If you think of CGNAT as having a router before your router, the performance only become terrible because the first router is overloaded. If the ISP do their job to manage and monitor this well CGNAT do have negligible performance hit unless you are professional esport player in FPS games where that 1 ms might earn you a title.
Lack of IPv6 also do not indicate if the ISP is bad, it just say they are not willing to invest in it because it is still not common enough. Some of the equipment have ROI period of x years, so they cannot really change it just because they want to go IPv6.

CGNAT does not normally affect the speed or things like that but rather it will make life diffcult if you need more advanced features.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT1) It will break application which needs a public IP address, for example if you want to set up an VPN server at your home router
2) It may break port forwarding
3) You may get band for the other users' bad behavior because you share the same public IP address with other users in the same CGNAT network.

CGNAT on IPv4 combined with no IPv6 is even worse -- that is basically the default with MyRepublic and Viewquest. If you have IPv6 address you will be able to bypass the limitations mentioned above.

That being said, if your use case is just for web browsing and media consumption, it may not be a problem.