LTA ERP2.0 OBU fail standards? Automotive Electronics Council: AEC-Q100

[tatsit]

The parts shall be tested per the High-Temperature Operating Life (HTOL) requirements in JESD22-
A108 with the following special condition. The ambient test temperature and duration shall be per the
applicable operating temperature grade as follows:
Grade 0: 48 hours at 150°C or 24 hours at 175°C
Grade 1: 48 hours at 125°C or 24 hours at 150°C
Grade 2: 48 hours at 105°C or 24 hours at 125°C
Grade 3: 48 hours at 85°C or 24 hours at 105°C
Grade 4: 48 hours at 70°C or 24 hours at 90°C

http://www.aecouncil.com/Documents/AEC_Q100-008A.pdf

Even the lowest Grade 4 also cannot meet. I dont know what to say about the quality of our civil service.

EDIT 1 May
This thread is targeted on the reply by LTA on 29 Apr, stating the reason for installing 3 piece unit in car rather than single piece unit on motorcycle is due to heat.


It is implied that the ambience temperature in the car parked outdoors will reach 52.4°C.

Whereas for motorcycle parked under trees (see video), the ambience temperature will reach 34.1°C

In the first place, if the agency's concern is life span used in automotive, why didnt they specify trialed and tested standards such as the AEC-Q100 which has been part of automotive industry for decades?

Moreover, are these ERP2.0 devices UNECE r10 certified for EMC as there are genuine concerns for radiation from these devices capable of transmitting and receiving?

The point is, for an authority that does registration and homologation, it is very hypocrite for them to turn a blind eye to products developed inhouse.

On 30 Apr, a certain motorcycle workshop measured the surface temperature of ERP2.0 parked outdoors to be a whooping 55.4°C.

So should we be concerned about the lifespan of the motorcycle unit or can we now install the motorcycle single piece unit in car since it will reach >50°C anyways?

 

[thomas00]

Really wonder how much efforts they put in when doing the tender. Got a lousy end product and now force it down all drivers’ throat.

 

[wongminmin]

 

[Evil Slayer]

http://www.aecouncil.com/Documents/AEC_Q100-008A.pdf

Even the lowest Grade 4 also cannot meet. I dont know what to say about the quality of our civil service.

Nice find!

 

[agcken12]

really NOT acceptable sia!!!

 

[8inchMortal]

http://www.aecouncil.com/Documents/AEC_Q100-008A.pdf

Even the lowest Grade 4 also cannot meet. I dont know what to say about the quality of our civil service.

Nice find +1

 

[surfman]

Lta forgot to write this requirement in spec

aft award contract realise something wrong then ask vendor to add

vendor give them one times jialat jialat vo quote

Lta llst and cannot admit they wrong so come out with this genius design to avoid giving vendor vo

usually all the Govt contract like this one… very normal

 

[xArchangelSGE]

Lta know it sucks but making a loss so need to somehow make back money by forcing it to the peasantry.

 

[8inchMortal]

20 year old spec also can’t meet

 

[neo_aw]

Heat sink coming…… pls standby a brick size space…..

 

[helinoob]

Means the current equipment likely won't last even in its 3 piece configuration. Lta kena chop carrot already. No wonder this tendered half price

 

[MiG123]

No matter how much underbid, prob still paid way higher than off the shelf

wonder which crony middleman or $1 company all this is benefiting

 

[Money no have]

Huh that is why it is cheap mah.
Unless you want the tender to cost $500m of tax payers? No problem!

 

[nyvrem]

Please post this on Facebook

 

[Sauron]

Must be pay for the cheapest for max profit

 

[tatsit]

Huh that is why it is cheap mah.
Unless you want the tender to cost $500m of tax payers? No problem!

https://www.mot.gov.sg/news/details...and-timeframe-to-move-into-erp-2.0-system-era

1. The Land Transport Authority (LTA) awarded the ERP 2.0 project to the consortium formed by NCS Pte Ltd and MHI Engine System Asia Pte Ltd at a cost of S$556 million in 2016. As the project is still ongoing, details of the project costs will only be finalised upon completion.

kindly revise your statement to, "Unless you want the tender to cost $5bn of tax payer?"

 

[xiao.xin]

Who change liao, please use your leg to touch the new unit then say kena burnt hahaha.

LTA to pants drop!

 

[tomsss]

2016 weather very different compare to 2024 weather hor

 

[chainsawman]

i got the cooling solution for LTA

but but, this would take up one of the passenger seats.

 

[tatsit]

i got the cooling solution for LTA

but but, this would take up one of the passenger seats.

why not use the vehicle's radiator instead?