iPhone 16e/Plus/Pro/ProMax Discussions [No WTB/WTS/Flip]

[Jirachi]

When would the previous gen iPhone start dropping in resale value? Just before launch or new model or a few months after launch?

Hard to say. Demand supply cycle.

 

[Jirachi]

i wonder if this year's iphone 16 series will be esim only model just like they did with the 2024 ipads.

There is a chance. Our telco don’t suddenly rush to offer eSIM for no reason.

 

[ragnarok95]

Should be for all the versions.

If 16 has less than 8GB then i don't think they will get it. If its all 8GB then i think all will get it.

 

[Jirachi]

If 16 has less than 8GB then i don't think they will get it. If its all 8GB then i think all will get it.

It’s the NPU that is the determining factor for AI features.

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-a-very-large-amount-of-RAM-needed-for-AI

 

[froztheart]

It’s the NPU that is the determining factor for AI features.

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-a-very-large-amount-of-RAM-needed-for-AI

And also RAM, which was highlighted by Apple's software engineering chief, Craig Federighi,

"said that while Apple wants to bring new features to older devices, Apple Intelligence features require specific hardware to function correctly. The iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max are powered by A17 Pro chip, which features a 16-core Neural engine. It is this section of the processor that is tasked with handling AI workloads. Compared to the Neural engine on the A16 bionic chip, which powers the vanilla iPhone 15 models, A17 Pro offers more processing power. Federighi also said that all Apple Intelligence compatible devices need to have at least 8GB RAM, which is also a key aspect for running AI tasks."

Apple’s head of the machine learning department, John Giannandrea also shared,

“You could, in theory, run these models on a very old device, but it would be so slow that it would not be useful.” He explained that inference, which is essentially the process of running a large language model (LLM), is “incredibly computationally expensive” and depends on “a combination of bandwidth in the device” along with the size of the Neural Engine.

https://www.business-standard.com/t...nd-onwards-apple-explains-124062100387_1.html

 

[DCmax1104]

Yes. My 5 year old iPhone lao kok kok already, I'm just waiting for the next SE to launch

 

[ragnarok95]

Should be the combination of both. Anyway, i'm going for the pro models. Else if i keep with my current 15PM i also will have the feature available for me too.

 

[weiess]

if got bigger battery and bigger screen, i will seriously consider this...
but doubt hey will put in the latest chip..
ever since iphone 14, the latest chip only for their pro lineup.

 

[anthonygreenisreal]

if got bigger battery and bigger screen, i will seriously consider this...
but doubt hey will put in the latest chip..
ever since iphone 14, the latest chip only for their pro lineup.

you can get iphone 15 plus now.

 

[weiess]

you can get iphone 15 plus now.

i am using one now as a secondary..
just hope that SE will give a cheaper option.

 

[weiess]

all iphone 16 models and SE with the A18 chip?

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/07/02/iphone-16-models-a18-chip/

 

[froztheart]

all iphone 16 models and SE with the A18 chip?

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/07/02/iphone-16-models-a18-chip/

Makes sense since its been mentioned that older models not getting the AI features/functions is due to insufficient RAM and underpowered processor.

 

[weiess]

Makes sense since its been mentioned that older models not getting the AI features/functions is due to insufficient RAM and underpowered processor.

True..
like the site suggested.. most likely separate the chips by giving A18 and A18 Pro names...

 

[ragnarok95]

Luckily i bought the M1 ipad air. 8GB and powerful enough for the AI features.

 

[kmkimlo]

Luckily i bought the M1 ipad air. 8GB and powerful enough for the AI features.

same.. and the chip is not showing its age yet... still run all the tasks vvvvvvvvvvvv well

 

[jywy2005]

This 3279 mah battery is it better than the current SE model? I am still using IP XR, so am considering this as I like Face ID.

 

[reddevil0728]

This 3279 mah battery is it better than the current SE model? I am still using IP XR, so am considering this as I like Face ID.

current upon googling is 2018mah

 

[ragnarok95]

The latest rumors out of China claim the iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max will see improvements in their charging rates. While the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max can go up to 27W using a cable and up to 15W using MagSafe wireless charging, this year's models will allegedly take things further.

The iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are apparently going to support 40W wired charging and 20W MagSafe wireless charging. Those are, of course, peak rates, and won't be achieved for a very long time throughout the charging process.

It remains to be seen how upping the peaks will affect actual charging time for both technologies on these phones, since that's what people care about the most. Still, if this pans out (and that's a big if), it's good to see Apple advancing its charging rates somewhat - it's still quite far from Chinese companies' mainstream 120W wired and 50W wireless peaks, but it is making progress.

On the other hand, the source of this rumor claims the point of the higher peak rate charging is to compensate for upcoming increases in battery capacity on the iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max - basically Apple wants them to charge at least as fast as their predecessors, even with bigger batteries inside.

A rumor from about a year ago already claimed that the iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max would get these exact improvements in charging, and that they would also use stacked battery technology which allows for higher capacities and longer lifespans.

The iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are due to be unveiled by Apple in September as usual, alongside the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus.

 

[loveboon]

Most probably gonna upgrade from 15 pro to 16 pro max if the weight is manageable

 

[limmk]