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peachmouse

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It has been a long time since SG experienced a serious recession. You will probably feel differently when MAS devalues the SGD by 20% to 30% to stimulate the economy.
I guess that you are not Singaporean, when you make the above statement.

You can find out more about how MAS influence SGD value (compared to other currencies) at here
MAS FAQ 5.1 (here) notes that MAS does not aim to keep S$ weak to boost competitiveness.

In general, MAS manages our SGD to keep prices stable in Singapore.

I don't recall any instance where MAS weakens the SGD to stimulate the economy. We import almost all the raw materials and weaker SGD make our imports more expensive. So weaker SGD may not stimulate the economy much.
 

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If things are going well, press hard on the accelerator!
Volume at A-share stocks in the morning is still massive. I think the masses are buying the dip.
Comrade xi said this is a test of my faith.
So I rage bought some china yesterday.
Looks like I will be dancing naked.
 

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How do u download 抖音in Singapore?
抖音 still firmly belive in bull case. Their theory is ‘上面’ come up with so many policies just for stock markets to tank? If SH index drop below 3000, ALL mainland chinese will lose faith and stay away from A shares forever
 

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抖音 still firmly belive in bull case. Their theory is ‘上面’ come up with so many policies just for stock markets to tank? If SH index drop below 3000, ALL mainland chinese will lose faith and stay away from A shares forever
Won't stay away forever one lah, china market down 40% in 2015 also didn't stop a new batch of investors from going in to be harvested
 

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China’s drive for tech self-sufficiency is already paying off​

Facing an uncertain future, China’s pivot towards self-reliance and technological innovation will cement its position on the world stage​

https://www.scmp.com/opinion/china-...ufficiency-already-paying?utm_source=rss_feed

To redirect its economic trajectory and ensure long-term prosperity, Beijing has recognised it is essential to carve out new avenues of growth. To date, over 1 trillion yuan (US$128.68 billion) has been invested in emerging industries such as artificial intelligence and green technologies. Aligned with this strategy, universities are revamping their courses to focus on hi-tech fields in response to the government’s call for more talent in these sectors.

According to the Milken Institute’s latest report on the best-performing cities in China in 2023–2024, these new productive forces are emerging as potential silver bullets for the economy. Cities that have displayed significant economic resilience tend to share a common characteristic: properly established tech hubs and diversified sectors.

For instance, Hangzhou has shifted from a tourism-based economy to a flourishing e-commerce hub that hosts large tech conglomerates. Though the city remains a top tourist destination, tourism revenue plays an increasingly smaller part in the local economy.

In the meantime, Shenzhen, a crucial city included in the Greater Bay Area development zone, is working to reinforce its distinction as “China’s Silicon Valley”, to attract even more investors and private-sector engagement.
By fostering home-grown innovations, the world’s second-largest economy seeks to enhance its competitive edge by reducing its dependency on Western technologies. China is striving to achieve this by bolstering its domestic supply chains, strategically fostering tech hubs in the central regions, and strengthening its alliances with Southeast Asian markets such as Malaysia and Vietnam through the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership.

China is also struggling with another pressing issue: its shrinking industrial workforce coupled with sluggish domestic demand. The trajectory of the once-revolutionary “reform and opening up” policy that has brought immense social and economic benefits needs to be changed as China seeks to adapt to new economic realities.
Aside from upgrading traditional industries, China is concentrating its efforts on further developing inland regions and expanding its existing large production centres. Today, years of investment to stimulate growth in regional clusters across the country seems to be paying off.

Economic activities in big and smaller cities within zones such as the Yangtze River Delta has significantly increased over the past year. Such integrated development not only brings prosperity to the overall economy but also addresses regional disparities, creating a more equitable distribution of opportunities.

This approach underscores the importance of domestic market development in Beijing’s agenda. Strengthening domestic supply chains and boosting local demand while adjusting to shifting consumption patterns are meant to enhance the country’s resilience to global disruptions and external shocks. In the long run, the initiatives are geared towards forming a healthier and more balanced economy.
 

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This is a Western trader with a good track record, and his view on HS:




A side note: Aussie gold stocks are breaking out. Gold stocks move up when there is increase in liquidity.
 

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If things are going well, press hard on the accelerator!
Volume at A-share stocks in the morning is still massive. I think the masses are buying the dip.
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Iyarash11

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抖音 still firmly belive in bull case. Their theory is ‘上面’ come up with so many policies just for stock markets to tank? If SH index drop below 3000, ALL mainland chinese will lose faith and stay away from A shares forever

they do know the pattern of ccp's A shares very well, and they will only try their luck when there is a chance, else by default stay away
 

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It has been a long time since SG experienced a serious recession. You will probably feel differently when MAS devalues the SGD by 20% to 30% to stimulate the economy.
Thats why keep some physical gold js in case.

If u don’t have faith in our SGD, then u should sell all yr SGD denominated assets (except own stay property) and buy into other non SGD assets
 

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actually a lot of sgreans 生在福中不知福
no need do anything, got govt will make sure our sgd stronk
other ppl govt weaken their currency until their own ppl are slaves to others...
 

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抖音 still firmly belive in bull case. Their theory is ‘上面’ come up with so many policies just for stock markets to tank? If SH index drop below 3000, ALL mainland chinese will lose faith and stay away from A shares forever
Sounds familiar. Im pretty sure similar things were said in 2015/16 during the China surge and drop.
 

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Sounds familiar. Im pretty sure similar things were said in 2015/16 during the China surge and drop.

Everytime reach a high there will be massive sell off. Very bad for long term holders.

Once you missed the exit point, it takes like a decade for it to climb back
 

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I guess that you are not Singaporean, when you make the above statement.

You can find out more about how MAS influence SGD value (compared to other currencies) at here
MAS FAQ 5.1 (here) notes that MAS does not aim to keep S$ weak to boost competitiveness.

In general, MAS manages our SGD to keep prices stable in Singapore.

I don't recall any instance where MAS weakens the SGD to stimulate the economy. We import almost all the raw materials and weaker SGD make our imports more expensive. So weaker SGD may not stimulate the economy much.

Last post on this as I do not want to hijack this thread.

In the event of a bad recession in SG, this is the SOP

1) Cut ADSB to ensure that the property market does not collapse.
2) Implement a nation wide paycut via a cut in the Employer CPF
3) Devalue the SGD so that it becomes substantially cheaper for foreign companies to set up shop in SG
4) Draw on the reserves to implement packages to ensure companies continue operating in SG

Imported inflation is a distant secondary consideration in such a situation. The focus will be on businesses, not the eonomic well being of citizens.

On your wealth, you should expect to take a loss in your SGD assets to help in nation building. If the recession is a short one, this will be a temporary paper loss. If it is a protracted one like Japan [China ?], then you will have eat subtantial realised loss if you want to migrate to a place with better economic prospects.
 
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