China & hk stocks/ etfs

[stanlawj]

Will they report the buy/sell ratio?

I think I know what you want to know. Will the price go up in the future? You can't determine it from buy-sell ratio alone.

In order for the price to go up, price insensitive buyers need to hit all the offers and overwhelm the sell orders, now and in the future.

So you need to see price rising with strong volume or increasingly stronger volume (if it started weak) over the next few days.

Well, what do you see now after a few days since then? Judging from the A-shares index price-volume, I'm seeing Chinese buyers are really coming in, outweighing the sellers.

 

[Jirachi]

I think I know what you want to know. Will the price go up in the future? You can't determine it from buy-sell ratio alone.

In order for the price to go up, price insensitive buyers need to hit all the offers and overwhelm the sell orders, now and in the future.

So you need to see price rising with strong volume or increasingly stronger volume (if it started weak) over the next few days.

Well, what do you see now after a few days since then? Judging from the A-shares index price-volume, I'm seeing Chinese buyers are really coming in, outweighing the sellers.

Something like that. But price and volume are not directly related. You can have higher sell volume with rising price and vice-versa.

 

[stanlawj]

Something like that. But price and volume are not directly related. You can have higher sell volume with rising price and vice-versa.

Every buy order is balanced by sell order. You're worried about hidden sell orders?

It's about overwhelming the seller offer queue at the current price level (including hidden orders) and clearing it so that the buy market orders can move on to hit offers on the next higher price level. Maybe you should read up more about why price moves: Market orders vs limit orders.
https://www.duomoinitiative.com/gui...-really-work-ultimate-guide-beginner-advanced

 

[stanlawj]

 

[boringLife-]

To the moon it goes after huawei announcement. 鸿蒙概念遥遥领先

 

[stanlawj]

I hope you all BTFD. More Western traders are jumping on the bandwagon. I've been doing so through silver.

 

[Tiny Shrimp]

lai liao lai liao
second wind

 

[sohguanh]

HK SDR in SGX you use SGD buy sell any takers? Thai SDR no volume this will have volume?

https://www.theedgesingapore.com/ne...eceipts-hong-kong-stocks-within-4q2024-source

 

[noobkia]

Us adrs not going up in line with the hk stocks today zzz

 

[Jirachi]

Every buy order is balanced by sell order. You're worried about hidden sell orders?

It's about overwhelming the seller offer queue at the current price level (including hidden orders) and clearing it so that the buy market orders can move on to hit offers on the next higher price level. Maybe you should read up more about why price moves: Market orders vs limit orders.
https://www.duomoinitiative.com/gui...-really-work-ultimate-guide-beginner-advanced

I was talking about volume and you're talking about orders.




This type of things can happen.

 

[stanlawj]

I was talking about volume and you're talking about orders.




This type of things can happen.

Volume is the transacted orders. I think you may be worried about market manipulation because the China stocks are not rocketing up immediately.

Relax man... Fed is releasing liquidity and China is going to suck the liquidity from US (and India). I've already posted so much evidence. However, the parasite economy (real estate) will not get much support from China's stimmies. Choose wisely the China stocks or ETF. For example, Hang Seng Tech ETF is a good choice.

 

[stanlawj]

I was talking about volume and you're talking about orders.




This type of things can happen.

I think you shouldn't put too much weight in daily candlesticks. Switch to weekly chart is better. HSI shows dips are bought. A-shares are somewhat neutral, which signals more consolidation ahead.

But Indian BSE Sensex has a confirmed failed breakout in Sept, and Japan Topix index has been stuck at the same level since Aug. Together all these suggests foreign money flows reversing back to China plays, in particular HK stocks (+ Singapore stocks).

 

[econ food]

Gdp news out at 10am but market suddenly big green candle stick after lunch.

STAR50 from up 2% can suddenly up 9%

国家队 buying assets?

Next wk wad forcast ?

 

[boringLife-]

Next wk wad forcast ?

Shanghai uncle forecast next week SSE will attempt to tackle 3400 lol then maybe pull back to 3150. When it hit 3150, it will be your last and final chance to board the boat.

Personally I think I am max out my allocation to China etf in my portfolio (20%), but I might add baba if it retracts just to gamble

 

[econ food]

Shanghai uncle forecast next week SSE will attempt to tackle 3400 lol then maybe pull back to 3150. When it hit 3150, it will be your last and final chance to board the boat.

Personally I think I am max out my allocation to China etf in my portfolio (20%), but I might add baba if it retracts just to gamble

Chu got attend or read dennis ng lessons before ? I think next wk Is also low.

 

[TehSi99]

Shanghai uncle forecast next week SSE will attempt to tackle 3400 lol then maybe pull back to 3150. When it hit 3150, it will be your last and final chance to board the boat.

Personally I think I am max out my allocation to China etf in my portfolio (20%), but I might add baba if it retracts just to gamble

I have maxed out my HK/China stocks allocation. Was thinking to add few SG stocks which I think fundamentally sound. In the end, changed my mind due to their very low trading volume.

 

[stanlawj]

To support my theory: Foreign money outflow from India, inflow to undervalued stocks like China

https://www.reuters.com/world/india...ew-playgrounds-tighter-rules-loom-2024-10-17/

India equity option traders hunt for new playgrounds as tighter rules loom​

Millions of Indian retail traders are exploring alternative ways to earn profits ahead of stricter regulations on trading equity derivatives next month, but their transition is unlikely to be smooth, investors and brokers say.
Derivatives trading in India has boomed in the past few years, with short-term index options bets pushing up the notional value of options traded on the country's exchanges to the highest globally.

Regulatory data show retail traders contributed to more than a third of volume in the derivatives market, leading the Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI) to warn of risks and reduce the number of contracts offered by exchanges. The regulator also tripled the minimum trading amount. The new rules go into effect on Nov. 20.

Zerodha, India's second-largest online brokerage, estimates trading volumes for equity options are likely to drop about 30% after the new rules kick in.

The new rules "are sufficient enough to make retail traders want to trade less," Faisal Mohammed, vice president of trading operations at Zerodha, said.

 

[Tiny Shrimp]

To support my theory: Money outflow from India, inflow to undervalued stocks like China

https://www.reuters.com/world/india...ew-playgrounds-tighter-rules-loom-2024-10-17/

India equity option traders hunt for new playgrounds as tighter rules loom​

Millions of Indian retail traders are exploring alternative ways to earn profits ahead of stricter regulations on trading equity derivatives next month, but their transition is unlikely to be smooth, investors and brokers say.
Derivatives trading in India has boomed in the past few years, with short-term index options bets pushing up the notional value of options traded on the country's exchanges to the highest globally.

Regulatory data show retail traders contributed to more than a third of volume in the derivatives market, leading the Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI) to warn of risks and reduce the number of contracts offered by exchanges. The regulator also tripled the minimum trading amount. The new rules go into effect on Nov. 20.

Zerodha, India's second-largest online brokerage, estimates trading volumes for equity options are likely to drop about 30% after the new rules kick in.

The new rules "are sufficient enough to make retail traders want to trade less," Faisal Mohammed, vice president of trading operations at Zerodha, said.

yes good theory, follow the money best

 

[boringLife-]

To support my theory: Money outflow from India, inflow to undervalued stocks like China

https://www.reuters.com/world/india...ew-playgrounds-tighter-rules-loom-2024-10-17/

India equity option traders hunt for new playgrounds as tighter rules loom​

Millions of Indian retail traders are exploring alternative ways to earn profits ahead of stricter regulations on trading equity derivatives next month, but their transition is unlikely to be smooth, investors and brokers say.
Derivatives trading in India has boomed in the past few years, with short-term index options bets pushing up the notional value of options traded on the country's exchanges to the highest globally.

Regulatory data show retail traders contributed to more than a third of volume in the derivatives market, leading the Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI) to warn of risks and reduce the number of contracts offered by exchanges. The regulator also tripled the minimum trading amount. The new rules go into effect on Nov. 20.

Zerodha, India's second-largest online brokerage, estimates trading volumes for equity options are likely to drop about 30% after the new rules kick in.

The new rules "are sufficient enough to make retail traders want to trade less," Faisal Mohammed, vice president of trading operations at Zerodha, said.

The A-H premium continues. Seem like foreign funds haven't really pour in yet via HKEX otherwise the premium should converge, no?

 

[stanlawj]

The A-H premium continues. Seem like foreign funds haven't really pour in yet via HKEX otherwise the premium should converge, no?

Yes, of course. The Anti-China and Taiwan invasion propaganda fed to the Westerners is still strong.